Club 600

1badmasonman

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Fuck yeah integra the mother land

Well the frontlines of the american revolution against prohibition. Capone used to live about a mile from my local. Without giving out my address im in mob territory. We should talk closer some day bra.
 

1badmasonman

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Ok so im out in the open here a bit but fuck it. I refuse to live in fear of something thats a clear injustice to every citizen of this country. Our goverment has declared war on us, "the drug war" many years ago. And whoes paying for it?. Me and you peeps. Ive fucking had all im gonna take of it. AND YOU SHOULD TOO!!. Fuck these facist mother fuckers let get some mass seedin on Cmon.

Anyways anybody familiar with the chicago area knows that its corrupt as a mother fucker. The folks and the peoples nations along with the outfit run the fucking city. Cool. I dont give a fuck. At some point the city officials got an idea to knock down the robert talor housing projects along with many many others. My city is overun with the out come of that. As im sure atleast a 1000 mile radius of chicago is. They come here to slang there crack and H and steal whatevers not bolted down. These peeps have been long time drug war victims and our system allowed them to get a stranglehold on the cocain an H markets. So now they spread it out and its much much worse than before. Maybe not for the now evicted and happily goverment funded move for the crack dealers. Fuck me runnin and i go to jail over a fucking joint. FUCK YOU. :twisted: Im on a crusade peeps look out.
 

1badmasonman

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Some more of our hard earned tax dollars at work. Yet another news story

12 charged after yearlong drug sting
WHEATON -- Twelve people accused of helping to distribute more than 600 pounds of marijuana a month to the Chicago area are facing drug charges.
DuPage County State's Attorney Joe Birkett says the charges are the result of a yearlong investigation dubbed "Operation Chicago Haze."
The investigation was conducted by Birkett's office, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the DuPage Metropolitan Enforcement Group and local law enforcement agencies.
In addition to making the 12 arrests, officials seized about $1 million, thousands of pounds of marijuana, 11 vehicles and five weapons.
Officials say the drugs were brought to the Chicago area from California and Canada.

What a bunch of bullshit people. Ok end of my snap out. Peace 1BMM
 

1badmasonman

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if thats what you mean integra i used to pull hookers from that joint years ago. back when i was pimpin. I dont do that shit no more though.
 

Heads Up

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DoeEyed, a few questions for you. How tall are those plants in your buckets? I've have read a couple of times on here from different people, uncle ben being one, that to much nitrogen during vegging causes stretching. There's nothing like the classic looking plant with one main cola, however, I think that is the least productive method of growing.

Do you continue giving 1/4 strength grow nutes the whole time you are also giving your girls the 1-3-2...and how much of the blossom booster do you put into a gallon of water? I also use the 1-3-2 for flowering. My next grow will be indica dominant so I'm going with a 9-3-6 for veg and the blossom booster for flower. I put a 1/4 teaspoon into every gallon of water of the blossom booster. I prefer to feed them low doses of nutes but with every watering. I had really good results my last grow using the low dose method. I also use molasses and cal-mag but not with every gallon of water. The only thing I put into my water ALL the time is silica and ph down. My tap water is like 8.5, it's horrible. Every once in a while I also will put some hygrozyme or liquid karma. I started using silica this grow on my 12/12 from seed experiment and the plants, while shall we say petite, are absolutely beautiful. They have all to some degree or other produced this lovely sheen on their leaves. All of my leaves are gorgeous green and they've been flowering for, will be three weeks wednesday. Not a single leaf is browning, spotting, curling or drooping. They really haven't been much to look at until recently. I'll get some pics up this weekend. They're a foot tall or so and when they are finished will basically be one huge bud on a stick.
 

Heads Up

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masonman, this grow for me was an experiment while my sativas finished. I had no clue what I was going to get from them so I decided to throw some beans into a 12/12 from seed. I figured a few more ounces to supplement the sativas. I purposely used half gallon grow bags to keep the plants short. They ended up too short for my liking so I transplanted them when they were flowering for about a week into one gallon bags, I still wanted to keep them short. They may have grown another inch or so after the transplant, oh well, it was only an experiment to see how the size of the container affects the size of the plant. My next grow I'm going to use two gallon smart pots. Again, I want to keep them short, keep the light more condensed. After the two gallon grow, I'm going to do a scrog with three sativas. I'll be using ten gallon grow bags rolled down to about half of their original depth. I don't want a two foot long tap root, one foot will do, after the tap hits the bottom, to my understanding it will then signal the roots to spread out in search of new ground. Well, that should mean a shorter bushier plant just by the nature of the root system? Yes/no? It sounds reasonable to me and I'm giving it a try, we'll see what happens and I'll of course report the results, which should be next year. Another marathon, just what I need. Anyway this was all about the 'rule of thumb' for container size since some of us don't have the luxury of growing monster plants. I have the room to grow a six foot plant, but I don't want to.
 

Heads Up

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Welcome faser. In a word, yes, it will hurt your yields. I'm no expert, I have like five, six, seven grows...by the third I had enough weed to lose count, anyway. My thinking is that heat is the real killer of a good grow. It can cause all kinds of problems including lower yields. Like masonman said, I would work on getting those temps down.
 

1badmasonman

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Headsup my ole school brotha. Yup your right i think when it comes to the tap root. On the other hand if your growing from a clone there is no tap root. Just feeders. Fruit for thought peeps. And i just gotta say Heads up you are one of our coolest members. Bump to you bro. 1BMM
 

1badmasonman

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ps headsup i like the 12/12 from seed idea. I think when i get around to my indoor again im gonna goe 12/12 str8 from rooted clone. no scrog just for some good bud porn action. Ive got 10 dif strains total and 15 buckets. Ive got 8-10 more beans including headband and cheese. I may just do a bud on a stick of all strains at once here in about a month or so. Till then im the clone king of these parts lol. Sorry i had to let some steam out today peeps. Ima smoke me some skunk1 and chill. Love yall 1BMM out.
 

williewill420

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Ok - I'll run it down quick.

Veg room: 8x7x8

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1 x 324w CFL rack
2 x 400w MH
2 x 8" inline fans
1 x 6" inline fan
1 x tower fan
Humidifier (from the stoneage)
My Stinkbud cloner

Temps: 75F
RH: 40%

Scott's Premium Potting Soil
Jack's Classic All Purpose Nute, 20-20-20
Superthrive
Molasses
Cal-Mag Plus

I try for 9 plants per light - doesn't always work that way though. lol I start them off with Superthrive, and at two weeks, add Molasses, as well, and they get put into their three gallon bucket. This is their final home. At this time they go under the MH light.

At three weeks, if it's a strain I'm topping, I top for four colas. Finish vegging to six or eight weeks, depending on how big it is.




Flower Room:15x17x8

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4 x 600w air cooled HPS
2 x 8" inline fans
2 x 6" inline fans
1 x 16" oscillating fan
Water Rack
Chopping table
Drying Closet

Temp: 75F
RH: 30%

Jack's Classic All Purpose Nute, at 1/4 strength
Jack's Classic Blossom Booster, 10-30-20
Molasses
Cal-Mag PLus

Nothing much to explain here. They flower, lol. No more than nine plants per light.

In either room, airflow is great, never had a problem with mold or mildew, the occassional fungus gnat in the veg room (from the soil) that I treat with Neem Oil.

That's pretty much everything! If you need any other details let me know.

So just the water? That alone is causing the lowered yield? I plan on an RO system as soon as I can afford one, but meantime...
Hey doeyed maybe you can squeeze your lights in closer together so not so much light is wasted...I never used Jacks fertilzer but maybe you can try a fertilizer more aimed towards marijauna. Fox farms is pretty good and cheap also..I just recently switched to advanced nutrients and im seeing bigger results its more expensive tho. And clones go crazy with multiple branchings.....Top your clones as soon as they are rooted and into dirt sometimes you can get them to spit out 3 or 4 main stalks and have the entire veg cycle to recover. As far as the tapwater Im kinda a slop artist myself and i never evaporate it or anything, just straight from the tap straight to my plants and I dont see any difference in yields. ( iused to evaporate it all the time ) Cant tell no difference.
 

williewill420

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Also get your light as close to your plants as possible. And your plants on the outside perimeter stack them up off the ground so they are up in the air not getting shaded by the plants in front of them. I used to run 9 plants and i get a better yeild now from 6 instead of 9...Try some liquid karma every water..you'll see instant results
 

mcpurple

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ps headsup i like the 12/12 from seed idea. I think when i get around to my indoor again im gonna goe 12/12 str8 from rooted clone. no scrog just for some good bud porn action. Ive got 10 dif strains total and 15 buckets. Ive got 8-10 more beans including headband and cheese. I may just do a bud on a stick of all strains at once here in about a month or so. Till then im the clone king of these parts lol. Sorry i had to let some steam out today peeps. Ima smoke me some skunk1 and chill. Love yall 1BMM out.
i would like to see this take place it would be exciting
 

DST

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First up folks, relax and share a bit of my holiday for a few minutes.....

Holiday theme tune time:
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The view from our balcony.


This is the sea!!! can you believe it!!


We walked past about 10 of these bays, all the beaches looking like this.....nice and empty!!! clean, with just the odd nudist bather, hahaha.
 

DST

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And to add to the madness on the 600......I just heard this the other day...love the line, That boy needs therapy....

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1BMM, whatever you call that junk, that shiznit can't be good, did it not kill our good man from UGK? PimpC or was it the other dude, BunB....

Okay, so I see the person with the main problem is DoeEyed so lets address that. It sounds and reads like your set up is dialled in. Let me share some experience of my past. I grew headbands in a variety of different methods, different pots, topping, lst'ing, and when I used the same size pot, I got the same yield no matter how I grew them (seriously within like 1 gram or so)
I am still kind of a believer in Nature is right, so why should we top, fimm, lst, etc.....but we continue to manipulate, go against gravity, and all the rest of it....and we do have some successes. But by the sounds of it, it has to be a water issue, or simply the Genetics.....

I also just finished with my Blackjack time in motion as another example. I topped that, lst'd it, slung it in a bigger pot, all that freaking jazz, and guess what, it weighs in the same as the one I grew for a few weeks from seed then flung it into 12/12 in a 1 gallon pot....figure that out......Genetics is where it is at. With my strain of OG, unless I am performing Bender420 moves on it, and veggin it for longer, then II not going to see anything over 2 ounce per plant (in my experience growing it - but then I have yet to smoke something that I enjoy more!!)

I have been trying to use mainly rain water this grow....even though I live in a city and people gasp and draw breathe, omg, you don't use rain water do you, that is full of nasty chemicals, etc??? Well of course I freakin do, it falls out of the sky, it's free, and when it lands on my head (quite frequently in Holland) it doesn't burn, and I certainly don't come out in any rashes....

I feel like quite a reasonable grower, but then we get peeps like Irishboy, Integra, pulling nearly 1:1 ratios, like Jig said before, most of us are well stoked with our yeilds, again, Genetics being the main key in it all. I could grow Blueberry or something along those lines, and get fat yields, but be smoking twice as much to get where I want....it's all relative. Plus if I was ever to sell, I would only get 2/3rds of the cash for my crop....but that won't happen, I is a smoking dawg.

Updates of the fattest OG Calyx's I have seen to date coming up...when my camera finally recharges.

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DST
 
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