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Mindmelted

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Economic impact of illegals on california.....



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Dateline: December, 2004
In hosting America's largest population of illegal immigrants, California bears a huge cost to provide basic human services for this fast growing, low-income segment of its population. A new study from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) examines the costs of education, health care and incarceration of illegal aliens, and concludes that the costs to Californians is $10.5 billion per year.
Among the key finding of the report are that the state's already struggling K-12 education system spends approximately $7.7 billion a year to school the children of illegal aliens who now constitute 15 percent of the student body. Another $1.4 billion of the taxpayers' money goes toward providing health care to illegal aliens and their families, the same amount that is spent incarcerating illegal aliens criminals.
"California's addiction to 'cheap' illegal alien labor is bankrupting the state and posing enormous burdens on the state's shrinking middle class tax base," stated Dan Stein, President of FAIR. "Most Californians, who have seen their taxes increase while public services deteriorate, already know the impact that mass illegal immigration is having on their communities, but even they may be shocked when they learn just how much of a drain illegal immigration has become."
The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Californians focuses on three specific program areas because those were the costs examined by researchers from the Urban Institute in 1994. Looking at the costs of education, health care and incarceration for illegal aliens in 1994, the Urban Institute estimated that California was subsidizing illegal immigrants to the tune of about $1.1 billion. The enormous rise in the costs of illegal immigrants over the intervening ten years is due to the rapid growth in illegal residents. It is reasonable to expect those costs to continue to soar if action is not taken to turn the tide.
"Nineteen ninety-four was the same year that California voters rebelled and overwhelmingly passed Proposition 187, which sought to limit liability for mass illegal immigration. Since then, state and local governments have blatantly ignored the wishes of the voters and continued to shell out publicly financed benefits on illegal aliens," said Stein. "Predictably, the costs of illegal immigration have grown geometrically, while the state has spiraled into a fiscal crisis that has brought it near bankruptcy.
"Nothing could more starkly illustrate the very high costs of ‘cheap labor' than California's current situation," continued Stein. "A small number of powerful interests in the state reap the benefits, while the average native-born family in California gets handed a nearly $1,200 a year bill." The Federation for American Immigration Reform is a nonprofit, public-interest, membership organization advocating immigration policy reforms that would tighten border security and prevent illegal immigration, while reducing legal immigration levels from about 1.1 million persons per year to 300,000 per year.
 

fatman7574

New Member
Sahme guantamano is not larger or we could set up a tomato farm there and send them there. I heard it is suppose to be emptied soon. Should be a lot cheaper than locking them all up privately owned and operated air conditioned facilities in Florence Arizona. There we fatten them up, fix their teeth, take care of all their medical issues and finally fly them back to Mexico. When they want to make more drug sells, or need medical or dental treatment they come back with their colons lpacked with drugs and tobacco to sell to American prisoners. Those Mexicans actually shove full packs of cigarettes in rubbers up their butts as a pack of cigarettes is worth $50 to $75 in prison. The American prisoners like the Mexicans as they bring every drug imaginable into the prisons. Even syringes.

Yep those illegal immgrants would make fine Americans.
 

abe23

Active Member
How about this. We send all the ignorant xenophobic right-wing assholes to an island somewhere. Then you can have your clean homogenous society, keep all the riff raff out and have death by stoning or whatever barbaric bullshit you guys are into. Deal?
 

blazin256

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maybe some of you would enjoy seeing america turn into mexico where theres only extremely rich and extremely poor, sewer water running beside dirt roads, stealing shit to survive, but i wouldnt.
 

redivider

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we paid for the land, we make the rules. white english speaking men founded this country and fought AGAINST the spanish. it irks me to see spanish at all on just about everything i read. just as much it would irk me to have to see german, russian, or japanese on anything i see. LEARN THE LANGUAGE AND COME TO THIS COUNTRY THE LEGAL WAY. why is this so hard? twelve million illegals working, not paying taxes, but still using our roads, fire/police depts. then they have kids that they dont teach english cause they themselves dont speak it then when they get to school they have to have special classes, special teachers, the list goes on.
but to sum things up...this is AMERICA we speak ENGLISH we are culturally diverse yes, but it was the white mans ideals that brought this country to fruition. and im appalled that if a white man speaks on his heritage hes flamed as a racist or if there was a NAAWP people would go ape shit. yea i might sound racist, but im tired of this nation catering to people that could give a shit about what happens. we got hand outs and thats all they want.
white white white english america..... get that white blanket off you're head. this ain't the 50's. ignorance isn't an excuse anymore.
 

fatman7574

New Member
It has nothing to do with color dude. The (national) langaue of this country is English. Look it up Dude, that has been a congressionally declare law and fact for a very long time Dude. We also have a National Bird Dude. No not the middle finger every american is pointing at you, but the American Bald eagle. It is as simple as that. One needs to change to adapt to their environment. The majoritys should not be expected to adjust to the free laoding minority especially when they are mostly illegally in our country to boot. It is not a matter of race or bigotry. It is simply a matter of common sence, practicality and sanity. You need to grow up and get real dude. This is not a liberal arts class where we discuss freedom and equlities and the american melting pot and the try pretend these talking circle idealologies actually really exist in practice. those are the garandose dreams liberals dat dreamers. No this is real life Dude. It is the illegals that are choosing to remain ignorant by not learning english while living in an english speaking country, not the english speaking americans for not learning the language and customs of every illegal alien that enters the country and demands equality and american rights as if an American citizens. Putting them on donkey carts ans send them back across the border. the law is a good, fair, practical law.
 

R2F

Active Member
In my opinion everyone should be required to speak English to enter the country as a potential citizen. The only exception for immigrants would be highly skilled people that we need more of (Doctors, Physics and Chemistry gurus, etc...)

Obviously tourism is different, but if you want to be come a citizen or stay beyond your Visa, you should be fluent in English.

There's no way in hell we should ever have multi-lingual driving tests. Speak fluently, or don't drive here.
 

ink the world

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we paid for the land, we make the rules. white english speaking men founded this country and fought AGAINST the spanish. it irks me to see spanish at all on just about everything i read. just as much it would irk me to have to see german, russian, or japanese on anything i see. LEARN THE LANGUAGE AND COME TO THIS COUNTRY THE LEGAL WAY. why is this so hard? twelve million illegals working, not paying taxes, but still using our roads, fire/police depts. then they have kids that they dont teach english cause they themselves dont speak it then when they get to school they have to have special classes, special teachers, the list goes on.
but to sum things up...this is AMERICA we speak ENGLISH we are culturally diverse yes, but it was the white mans ideals that brought this country to fruition. and im appalled that if a white man speaks on his heritage hes flamed as a racist or if there was a NAAWP people would go ape shit. yea i might sound racist, but im tired of this nation catering to people that could give a shit about what happens. we got hand outs and thats all they want.
We paid for the land huh? LOL we STOLE the land jackass. And yeah it DOES sound racist because you ARE racist. You make the assumption that every non white person you see is an illegal....it would be comical, but there are too many idiots like you that really believe all that shit. That makes it pathetic. Our education system is going to shit, and you are living proof.

maybe some of you would enjoy seeing america turn into mexico where theres only extremely rich and extremely poor, sewer water running beside dirt roads, stealing shit to survive, but i wouldnt.
Maybe you havent read a news article in a while but lemme fill you in on some "news"

The gap between rich and poor is larger than it ever has been in our history as a country. Something like 2% of the country account for over 90% of all the wealth. That has nothing to do with illegal aliens,it does have to do w/ ruich white business owners getting over on their employees and our country as a whole.
 

fatman7574

New Member
Dude you obviously are as your avatar shows you to be, a monkey's *rse. If you hate the opinion/beliefs and ways of the American citizens, simply leave and go live with the Mexicans. As is obviously we want immigration controls, we want to maintain the American way of life and that includes everyone speaking the national language of American English. We have not extended our borders to encompass Mexico or any other nation. What is ours is ours. Spanish is so easy to learn they teach it to American children in grade school in the US. I learned Spanish in the 5 th grade. That is when we as a nation foolish though Mexico might some day amount to something.

We did not steal America. The primitive races of Indians living here before us did not even believe in land ownership and claimed no lands as their own. They were more than happy to sell it though to the foolish white men anyway for trinkets, steel knives, hatchets, rifles and whiskey. We can not steal what is never owned prior to us staking ownership. We can settle what is need when it is not claimed or owned by others (even pay for it so as to prevent later claims of theft), and redistribute it as needed. That has been the way of advanced societies since before recorded history monkey boy.
 

ink the world

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Dude you obviously are as your avatar shows you to be, a monkey's *rse. If you hate the opinion/beliefs and ways of the American citizens, simply leave and go live with the Mexicans. As is obviously we want immigration controls, we want to maintain the American way of life and that includes everyone speaking the national language of American English. We have not extended our borders to encompass Mexico or any other nation. What is ours is ours. Spanish is so easy to learn they teach it to American children in grade school in the US. I learned Spanish in the 5 th grade. That is when we as a nation foolish though Mexico might some day amount to something.

We did not steal America. The primitive races of Indians living here before us did not even believe in land ownership and claimed no lands as their own. They were more than happy to sell it though to the foolish white men anyway for trinkets, steel knives, hatchets, rifles and whiskey. We can not steal what is never owned prior to us staking ownership. We can settle what is need when it is not claimed or owned by others (even pay for it so as to prevent later claims of theft), and redistribute it as needed. That has been the way of advanced societies since before recorded history monkey boy.
Fatass, I try to be civil here, for you I will make an exception. First you fucking retard, I served in the military, dont call my patriotism into question. Tell me to live w/ the Mexicans, kiss my ass kid. You want to call my patriotism into question and tell me "like it or leave it" I'll ask you fatty, how long and with what branch did you serve?

If you dont think we "stole" the land, in reality WE DID. How much did we pay for Manhattan? We paid $24 for the land, that is stealing. We took advantage of, poisoned and routed them from their land into reservations. You seem to have a nice revisionist streak, you probably support the Texas school board calling the slave trade ""Atlantic triangular trade." You know, if we call it something else or pretend it never happened then it didnt...


Second, someone not being able to read Engish has NOTHING to do w/ border control or specifically Mexico....Put down the donut, wake up and realize that not all immigrants come from Mexico or are Spanish speaking. You would get along well w/ Rick White the king of sweeping generalizations.

I like your idea of "redistribute as needed" are you a socialist? For such a staunch "patriot" I find it amusing you support redistributiuon, and while you laugh at my avatar realize I charge $100 an hour for my work, how much you pull in wise ass?
 

Xrtnfx

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I saw this on youtube, though it was relevant...

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watch the whole thing.... He's a smart man
 

fatman7574

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I saw this on youtube, though it was relevant...

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watch the whole thing.... He's a smart man
Great speech. I am a Democrat ashamed of the present Democrat party stance on immigration reform. True, the present immigration policies are good policies needing no changes. They simply need rigid enforcement. I agree with the entire content of this speech and agree with his opinions in this matter entirely. :peace:
 

medicineman

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I agree with the speaker 100%. Get rid of the illegals (Send them back, along with their offspring) and let them apply for legal status from the Mexican side of the border. To award them legal status while living here is a travesty of everything we stand for as a nation. Our immigration laws are much more lax than Mexicos. For the President of Mexico to tirade against our immigration laws while condoning Mexicos harsh laws is an outrage.
 

fatman7574

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You would not believe the number of illegal immigrants that purposely get caught in the US and thrown in prisons for free medical, free dental and three free hots per day and a cot in an air conditioned prison. Also all the drugs shoved up there back sides in condoms sell to american prisoners for top dollars. They supply a local address to have money sent to and once the money arrives the drugs are supplied. I know I spent lots of time in an Arizona privately prison for drug manfacturing in another state. Florence Arizona's population is over 95% prison inmates from Mexico and out of state. It is cheaper for most states to pay for prisoners to be held in private prison than in state goverment run prisons.
 

roachwagon

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The problem with mexico goes on for longer and goes wider than we can imagine. The biggest problem with Mexico, is that they are not giving their people a reason for wanting to stay
 

fatman7574

New Member
Mexico has lots of free cat out door sand/litter so indoor cat boxes are not needed. How ever lots of tacos and enchiladas there contain cat and dog meat so maybe a cat box is better.
 

sharon1

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I agree wholeheartedly with McClintock. I wish he would run for President.
Xrtnfx, I'd give you +rep......if I knew how to do it. Gonna have to read up and see how to do that.
 

doc111

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How about this. We send all the ignorant xenophobic right-wing assholes to an island somewhere. Then you can have your clean homogenous society, keep all the riff raff out and have death by stoning or whatever barbaric bullshit you guys are into. Deal?
Sounds like a good plan to me. Except change the "right wing assholes" to "all politicians and xenophobic assholes".:mrgreen:
 
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