Heat problem. (Pics)

[jumboSWISHER]

Wind is something that occurs in nature therefore it is a part of a plants natural enviroment. A plant can handle a good amount of wind before it damages the plant that badly(your average wal-mart fan is not even going to come close).Some stress can be a good thing for your plant, it can encourage growth in veg and promote more resin production in flower. If you have a nice hard wind going once you have an established root system your plants will become stronger. When your building muscle you are breaking it down and your body rebuilds it stronger to handle the stress, I see wind as a natural workout for my plants. Have you ever heard of hardening off your plants when your moving them outside? When you harden off a plant you are exposing it to the natural enviroment little by little so the plant can withstand the wind, intense light, and other environmental stressors making it stronger and being able to thrive under those conditions. I do agree that too much wind in bloom will effect resin quality so I make sure to turn down the fans but make sure I have adequate air flow but about 3-4 weeks after germination I crank up the fan and I've always had great results and I rarely have to use support.

yes this is all true, and relevant. but these plants are not going outside to harden, or into a natural enviroment. they are ina closet, in a very warm climate, close to a grow lamp. these factors, plus added wind is deffinatly a perfect situation to cause "WIND BURN".
witch is where by blowing air (to much) past the plant you are constantly carrying away all of the water from the leaves, thus causing the plant the perspire very quickly. causing stress, and making leaves dry out very quick, making leaves burn at very low temps, and overall an unhealthy plant. perspiration is a very very important plant function. taking this from the plant is going to be just as bad as taking water from it. i am not saying one bit that wind blowing on the plant is bad, but you MUST do it right. and know what, and why you are doing it. and yes it is true that some added stress will encourage growth and is a very good thing, but buring all of your leaves off in the process makes no sence. and MOST of the growth you are seeing is natural because you are giving it more CO2 and less OXYGEN, and the plants blowing around stimulates the entire plant. wind is a natural thing, and needing in a grow, but for example, CO2 is natural, and needed also. but 80% of the people that use it will cause only adverse affects.

this is VERY common argument here on RIU, and will never b put to rest. everybody is going to say something diffrent.

 

[DankShasta]

lus added wind is deffinatly a perfect situation to cause "WIND BURN".
witch is where by blowing air (to much) past the plant you are constantly carrying away all of the water from the leaves, thus causing the plant the perspire very quickly. causing stress, and making leaves dry out very quick, making leaves burn at very low temps, and overall an unhealthy plant. perspiration is a very very important plant function. taking this from the plant is going to be just as bad as taking water from it. i am not saying one bit that wind blowing on the plant is bad, but you MUST do it right. and know what, and why you are doing it.

this is VERY common argument here on RIU, and will never b put to rest. everybody is going to say something diffrent.

I've seen wind burn from stationary fans in hot grows...shit I've done it two "corner" plants in two different grows. Definetly drys them out and even causes little abrasions and tears in the leaves. Makes buds look like they do when they grow into a light. Windburn is very real. I'd say the biggest cause of it in my expieriences was the fixed fan, not the blowing power. Get a powerful oscillating fan and you'll prolly never have this problem. When I had damage, in both cases it was a fixed position fan that did it.

 

[OhGr]

witch is where by blowing air (to much) past the plant you are constantly carrying away all of the water from the leaves, thus causing the plant the perspire very quickly. causing stress, and making leaves dry out very quick, making leaves burn at very low temps, and overall an unhealthy plant. perspiration is a very very important plant function. taking this from the plant is going to be just as bad as taking water from it.

So, do you think it's a good idea to mist it a few times a day with my bottle?

 

[jumboSWISHER]

this is from a gardening forum, now just think of instead of not being able to absorb water because the ground is frozen, think because the plant wicked all the water from the pot. "Commonly referred to as "winter burn," the browning of leaves is caused by harsh winds combined with one of a plant’s normal homeostatic processes called transpiration. The leaf utilizes this process in summer to cool the plant down. Moisture is released through pores in the leaf tissue, called stomata. The evaporation of the moisture into the air cools the plant. Wind accelerates this process. In the winter, the ground is frozen, so a plant cannot absorb water to replace what is lost. The desiccation manifests as brown blotches and withered or curled leaves. The leaves often fall off completely."

 

[jumboSWISHER]

So, do you think it's a good idea to mist it a few times a day with my bottle?

thats tricky to answer, because with a HID light the water droplets can magnify the light and cause burns also. i would deffinatly mist right when lights go off, and a min befor they come on.


i doubt you are going to get wind burn unless you have a fan blowing directly at your plant on a high setting for hours. i just wanted to make sure you dont blast it with wind trying to cool it down, causing more probs ya kno man.

 

[DankShasta]

So, do you think it's a good idea to mist it a few times a day with my bottle?

You said you lived in the US south? Then I'd say no. i mean you could, it wouldnt really hurt much. You want to keep your humidity fairly low. i think if it was windburn you should fix that problem, not try to work around it by misting. Just dont have a fan beating on one plant all the time. We don;t even know if wind damage is your problem bro. If it is your prob, just get a circulating fan, or one of those tower ones maybe?

 

[jumboSWISHER]

i dont think he has wind burn, but everybody started talking about fans/positions/cons and pros of wind and i think i personally got a bit off topic hahahaha

 

[DankShasta]

i dont think he has wind burn, but everybody started talking about fans/positions/cons and pros of wind and i think i personally got a bit off topic hahahaha

same, lol!! but I agree with you 100% on everything you said regarding the subject. It's funny cuz i been reading these forums for a year or so and I'll see like cats with 1-3 little "rep squares" and these cats will really know whats up with the girls, then i see other fucking 10 million "rep box" dudes, and their 5000 posts are wive-tales, hippie logic, and utter retardation. Guess I'm saying ....good posts, even if we did get alittle sidetracked!

 

[jumboSWISHER]

same, lol!! but I agree with you 100% on everything you said regarding the subject. It's funny cuz i been reading these forums for a year or so and I'll see like cats with 1-3 little "rep squares" and these cats will really know whats up with the girls, then i see other fucking 10 million "rep box" dudes, and their 5000 posts are wive-tales, hippie logic, and utter retardation. Guess I'm saying ....good posts, even if we did get alittle sidetracked!

damn bro, im agreeing with this 100% straight up lol
thanks alot tho!! =] really appreciate it man

and ohGr, i am sorry for trashn up ur thread man, we are here to help, not just bicker about fans lol

 

[OhGr]

Ha, yeah no worries bro. I don't have any burns of any kind right now lol. My only "problem" which isn't even a problem yet is the stem is curving a bit and I don't want what happened to my other plant to happen to this one.

 

[jumboSWISHER]

Ha, yeah I don't have any burns of any kind right now. My only "problem" which isn't even a problem yet is the stem is curving a bit and I don't want what happened to my other plant to happen to this one.

iv realized that with my 150W sunsystem that all my plants lean towards the center of the bulb. the only way iv been able to keep my seedlings growing straight upwards is to have 2 lamps next to each other, creating a larger "center" or by circulating my plants positions every few hours.

 

[stonedmetalhead1]

Hey stoned can u source ur info. Or go a lil further into detail on how harsh wind affects resin quality. Never heard of it is all. Id google it but ur around so enlighten us.

I have just found through experience that powerful wind during flowering will cause leaf and other branches to come into contact with your buds disturbing your resin. When I had a strong wind in flower I found more busted resin heads upon close inspection than when I lowered the fan speed during that period of growth.

yes this is all true, and relevant. but these plants are not going outside to harden, or into a natural enviroment. they are ina closet, in a very warm climate, close to a grow lamp. these factors, plus added wind is deffinatly a perfect situation to cause "WIND BURN".

That wasn't my point. I was just trying to show by exposing your plants to wind it will make them stronger. It has to or when you put a plant outside it would just fall over.

this is from a gardening forum, now just think of instead of not being able to absorb water because the ground is frozen, think because the plant wicked all the water from the pot. "Commonly referred to as "winter burn," the browning of leaves is caused by harsh winds combined with one of a plant’s normal homeostatic processes called transpiration. The leaf utilizes this process in summer to cool the plant down. Moisture is released through pores in the leaf tissue, called stomata. The evaporation of the moisture into the air cools the plant. Wind accelerates this process. In the winter, the ground is frozen, so a plant cannot absorb water to replace what is lost. The desiccation manifests as brown blotches and withered or curled leaves. The leaves often fall off completely."

Your medium is never frozen in your growroom, I hope and there is no way for your pot plants to absorb that much water if you have adequate pots. Therefore your plants are never going to be deprived of water unless you neglect them. Believe me I've experimented with all factors in my grow room for years and I have found a strong wind in veg helps. As for the stationary fan comment a couple posts back, you don't want a plant to be constantly battered with wind, this will cause problems but as long as you use an oscilating fan everything will be fine. A stationary fan on high speed aimed directly at a plant will cause physical problems simply by force it would be like a plant trying to grow in a hurricane.

These are pics of one of my grows last year and I used 4 16" fans on high during this period of growth with no wind burn.

I couldn't find any veg shots but I run fans at high speed from 3-4 weeks veg to early flower before they really start pumping out resin (about 2-3 weeks)

 

[jumboSWISHER]

Your medium is never frozen in your growroom, I hope and there is no way for your pot plants to absorb that much water if you have adequate pots. Therefore your plants are never going to be deprived of water unless you neglect them. Believe me I've experimented with all factors in my grow room for years and I have found a strong wind in veg helps. As for the stationary fan comment, you don't want a plant to be constantly battered with wind, this will cause problems but as long as you use an oscilating fan everything will be fine. A stationary fan on high speed aimed directly at a plant will cause physical problems simply by force it would be like a plant trying to grow in a hurricane.

These are pics of my last grow and I used 4 16" fans on high during this period of growth with no wind burn.

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we basically just agreed with eachother..... lol
but even with adequet pots a seedling or small plant can very easily wick the water surrounding the roots and become subject to wind burns, even if the mojority of soil is wet, the soil surrounding the roots will not be, and it will burn befor the roots stretch to the wet soil.
honestly though, we did basically just agree with each other.... hahaha
we all shud stop bickering about wind, and help out ohGr wit his temps =] lol

 

[OhGr]

*******UPDATE*******
I've Cleared the excess fans and changed out my grow table with something that gives me a bit more height and space underneath to store my soil, Unused 1gal buckets, and Nutrients. My temp stays between high 81 and low 82 when my door is kept open which I can only do for about 7 or 8 hours a day due to my roommate. It gets up to 83 with my door closed. I keep my spray bottles hanging on the far left side and my large insulated cup of ice on the grow table to your left. My humidity stays around 45 to 50%. I'm trying to keep my plant as centered as I can with the middle of my HPS bulb so the stem will not curve to the left or right but rather grow straight up. I keep the one fan in front of my closet 24/7 oscillating on high speed. There is also another floor fan and box fan next to my door to suck in fresh cold air from the rest of the house.

Here are some pics.


Tell me your thoughts.

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