leaves falling off

[darkdestruction420]

she's looking nice, how about an update? real sorry i havent gotten back to u yet, ive been real busy. That stuff would probally work for vegging, but youll need to get something different for flower, notice the 5-1-1 on it? thats its nitrogen-phosphorus-potassium levels. for veg you want a fert with higher n levels than p(phosphorus) or k(potassium). For flowering you want something with low n and higher p and k levels. The fox farm trio would cover you all the way through if you check them out.

 

[allateup]

hey like i said befor i am limited on what i can get, and am to paranoid to order shit to my house. so i checked lowes and home depot and some other places in my area and all i could find is all this merical grow shit. so i asked at lowes, where i got a ph meter and some more peatmoss. and they told me that this shit i got would help out. its also in the pic, ill be uploading tonight. but it says to use it 1 to 2times a week. i made a 2 gallon bucket of the shit 1/2 a cap per 2 gallons of water and then i shook it up and used a lil plastic cup and did two cup fulls of the treated water. plus the rest of the water i had set aside for it till it started to drip. i also got some 3500k cfls for when i start the second phase. and some rooting powder. ill upload a pic later of the shit and tell u if i notice any change in her after light cycle tomarrow. but another leave did fall off befor i watered her so hopefuly this helps.

 

[allateup]

ok so as of the last 3 days she has been having these yellowing on the tips of the newer leaves, and a lil curling. so i lowered the pot down away from the light about a 1/2 inch and then yesterday on the end of her light cycle i put in the new plant foods. i havent rly seen anything of a change and when i check the ph with the meter its about a 6 or 7 most days. i am making a new pot for her out of a bucket cus i cant find any i like that are the size she is now. maybe that will help because a leaf fell off today and i can already see another one turning yellow. so i rly dont know what i am doing wrong. should i put more food in the plant or will over feeding it burn it? the directions say only once or twice a week for indoor plants. but i mean idk. hit me back with any thoughts. like if u look in the pic 1 and 6 u can see in the bottom right side the leaf that is yellowing and will prolly fall off tomarrow.

 

[darkdestruction420]

If its a def. that should work. You need to be very careful though, that stuff tends to be to strong for cannabis, especially at first. The damage already done isnt just going to go away, it takes time, be patient. I would look on google and find where the nearest hydro/grow store is and go pick up some better nutes, your ph range doesnt sound too bad 6.5 is about ideal, but what do you mean by "most days"?

 

[allateup]

umm well i only have had it for 3 days now and 2 outa the 3 its 6 but one day it was 7. so i said most days its 6 lol. yeah ill go find a plant store or ill site to store some shit from lowes. they said i could do that. but should i use the food every time i water her or just once a week? like it says and what u think about the pics? how does she look other then the yellowing?

 

[darkdestruction420]

She looks ok, the leaf curling on the upper set of fan leaves does look like it got kind of bad, but its not the end of the world or anything. approx once every 2-3 watering is what i do, the plant will tell you if its getting close to or is overfed, the leaves will become dark green and possibley the tips will burn. You can usually catch it before it gets to the burnt leaf tips stage though, if your leaves start getting a more darker green than normal its pretty hard to miss it.

 

[allateup]

oh the curiling on the very top is from it trying to get to the light that was like right after the lights went out, they flaten back down after i spray them and its dark. the curling i was talking about is in the tips of the leaves like in pic 1, 5, 9, 10. see how the very tip is curling and looks a lil brownish like its dying i have been cliping them off but its still happening. and ok so i water her every other day, so i use the treated water every 3rd day then? i mean u are telling me to look for dark green leaves i have seen other ppls plants and my other plants where nver as dark as this one is now so it might be kinda hard lawls. but ill try any thing else?

 

[darkdestruction420]

Sounds like you gave it too much miracle grow in your attempt to fix it. lol. It sounds like you may be watering a little too often, You want your soil to completely dry between waterings. are you using the lift method to determine when to water? I feed about every 5-7 days on average .

 

[allateup]

ok maybe i confused u.
1. i have only use the plant food once. 2 cups.
2. i water 2 1/2 cups every other day.
3. i let the plant look dry on the top and judge by weigh of the pot if she neeeds water.
from now on ill use the meter thought to judge if she needs watering. and i just now put the light meter in her to see if she isnt getign enuff light down there and its rly low on the light meter so. i made a lil box covered with tinfoil to reflect some light. i dont think it will help much but i think the problem might be as simple as she is to big for one light just over top. she might need one more pointed at the center or bottom of the plant? maybe

 

[darkdestruction420]

more than that. get like 6 more cfls. you should be bathing her in light from above and all sides. You'll see a huge increase in growth.

 

[allateup]

fuck me like 6? lawls ok well ill have to make some sort of weird macgyver style mount and get 4 more bulbs. so you think thats been my problem from the start not the nutes lol?

 

[darkdestruction420]

no,that didnt cause the yellowing but more light is def. needed for a plant that size, heres what to do, (this actually uses 7 more, not 6, that was a typo.)
Get a light bar, 4 outlet to socket adapters,4 y splitters, 4 2700k 26w(or 30's if they are cheap, if they arent in the value packs just get 26w bulbs)and 4 6500k 26w w bulbs. Tie the plant over(look into lst if you need to). You will get a whole bunch of new top colas. keep the lightbar close, the bulbs should be about 1-2 inches away from the plant. More light for the sides would be a good idea too, In fact for now 6 in the lightbar would probally be alright and you can use the other 2 on the sides. For flowering you want about 300-400w of cfl for a good sized plant.

 

[allateup]

ok well i didnt have the elteric expertice to make the 6 bar thing yet. i went to lowes and found a bunch of the stuff i need to make it but, ill need some more $ first. so i went out and got another 12' diamater light, like is over the plant now. and i got some more 6500k lights so atleast she will be geting more light then befor even thought its only 1 more instead of 6 more. and ill look into making a light bar, but all the ones i found u need to like put them into the wall, not like a plug. and when u say tie it down are you talking about like a banzai tree how u use strings to make it grow a certain way? i know how to do that but with the leaves still falling off like they are do u think that is wise to do? wont that cause more stress?

 

[rombomb420]

ok well i didnt have the elteric expertice to make the 6 bar thing yet. i went to lowes and found a bunch of the stuff i need to make it but, ill need some more $ first. so i went out and got another 12' diamater light, like is over the plant now. and i got some more 6500k lights so atleast she will be geting more light then befor even thought its only 1 more instead of 6 more. and ill look into making a light bar, but all the ones i found u need to like put them into the wall, not like a plug. and when u say tie it down are you talking about like a banzai tree how u use strings to make it grow a certain way? i know how to do that but with the leaves still falling off like they are do u think that is wise to do? wont that cause more stress?

Quite the opposite, it will allow the lower part of the plant to get light & stretch out less. darkdestruction has you headed in the right direction. I think you should find a good organic nitrogen (16-0-0 or similar) & use nothing but that for nutes every other watering for 2-3 weeks until you see added new green healthy growth. (enjoy the smell ) This chart shows that you have at the same time over fertilization AND nitrogen deficiency. http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/tables_guide.php Neither are severe, but it's what is going on with your plant. You can stabilize it before you flower. At that point get a good liquid bone meal 4-12-0 & 2700k not 3500k bulbs. The nutes should be less than $20 for all of it. Good luck.

- Rom

 

[allateup]

Well I looked at the chart and ill go get the other 2700 instead of the 3500. and ill tie her down after lights off today.

 

[allateup]

Ok tied down acouple of the bigger bottom branches, so the middle of her gets more light. And I gave her some more of the plantfood I got, till I get something better. What the ph supose to be after a feeding? Because she went up to 3 from 7. So I hope this will all help, I'll
l upload more pics tomarrow.