250W hps SCROG - barneys blue cheese & big buddha cheese

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schmoker

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next week when they are 6 - 6.5 weeks into flowering im thinking it might be time to start flushing for the next 2 weeks so they finish around 8 - 8.5 weeks as i dont want to be totally couchlocked when smoking.
am i good to flush with molasses every watering or should i just use water only? i had planned to use molasses until the end...what say you guys?

also going to leave them for 2 days in total darkness before cropping after reading some stuff on here about it. anyone have any opinions they want to share leaving them in darkness? is 2 days enough, ? is it a waste of time?
 
gwillim2006

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I flushed my BB Cheese for 2 weeks on just ph7 water, stopped watering for 3 days at the end but left the lights on 12/12. Cut down, removed fan leaves and hung for 3 days then final trimmed them and hung for 4 more days before removing the buds and starting the cure. I'm smoking as it's curing and the smoke is swwweeeeeeettt!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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schmoker

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sounds good gwillim, i wish i was smoking some cheese or blue cheese rather then this average smoke we have at the moment that lacks flavour and punch. hopefully in the next 3 - 4 weeks i'll be in the same boat as you :)
what was the reason for no watering the final 3 days?
 
gwillim2006

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I was watching a guys grow video on youtube months ago when I was just starting off and that was what he did! I've done it on both my grows but I have no idea whether it does any good to be honest, but it definately hasn't harmed them cos the smoke has been great! His reasoning for it was to help the plant die naturally???????????
I haven't tried the Blue Cheese but I promise the Regular Cheese will make you smilebongsmilie
 
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schmoker

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gwillim2006 said:
I was watching a guys grow video on youtube months ago when I was just starting off and that was what he did! I've done it on both my grows but I have no idea whether it does any good to be honest, but it definately hasn't harmed them cos the smoke has been great! His reasoning for it was to help the plant die naturally???????????
I haven't tried the Blue Cheese but I promise the Regular Cheese will make you smilebongsmilie
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yeah im only just reading about how to get that extra bit of resin out of the plant right at the end and it seems stress does the trick there. i'll probably have the lights off 2 days and wont water the day before so that would be 3 days no water and 2 days darkness...sounds pretty shitty environment to me, lets hope they kick out loads of resin!! :)
i love cheese and i know a friend who has an exodus cheese but hes 5+ hours away from me each way, so its a bit of a killer. must say loving the stench of the BB cheese, compared to the barneys farm blue cheese its in another league when it comes to smell, but ive never smoked BB cheese, so am looking forward to it and already have my eye on some small nuggets of bud that im going to snip so i dont have to pay a dealer for shitty uk street weed...
 
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schmoker

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stinkbudd1 said:
Just want to say great grow for 250w very mice job..+rep to ya cant wait for final weight!!
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thanks man, appreciate it! im not sure i'll be able to get a final weight in total as i might stagger some of the harvest if it looks like it needs it, but i'll deffo have pictures of whatever gets cropped and stick those up....i also only have kitchen scales, so not very accurate...but i can try and give you guys an idea.....the biggest thing for me is to make sure i get enough to last me until the next crop, which i think i should as we arent massive smokers........

just picked up some auto ak47 easyriders that are going straight in as it says they are done in 7 week from seed and thats a result as the mother in law gets here in 9 weeks lol
 
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schmoker

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jimmy130380 said:
loving the thread man
keep up the great work and i wish i could do the same with just a 250
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with your 1800W your lucky that you will never have to dick around with "kids lights" like my 250 LOL.
cheers jimmy, you and anyone would easily do the same as this grow if not better with your experience, im not doing anything special, infact im a pretty hands off kinda guy, they can go 2 days without being looked at, now i know they cant get burnt by the light all i care about is they are watered and dead leaves cleared up, i just leave them and wait....and they cant hurry up soon enough, im wishing the next month away like you wouldnt believe! its great having places like RIU and another one i visit is UK420, on uk420 some of those guys are packing DR60 tents that make mine look empty and taking a load of bud...i still have much to learn, but practise makes perfect eh!
 
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schmoker

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just a quick couple of shots i took last night very quickly

cheese on the left - lone blue cheese on the right. think the blue cheese might be finished a week sooner then the cheese? no idea if im honest. thinking of feeding one more nute feed to the cheese and to carry on with the much needed flush on the blue cheese as i went a bit strong on her final feeding...

6.5 weeks into flower:


close up of blue cheese


must admit looking at close ups on the BC this morning i keep thinking "shit its not hermieing is it"...i dont think it is, but will see what you folks say?
 
GFOYLE

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nice work man! I have the same set up and plan on trying a scrog next time. So your just using water? And are those 6inch pots?
 
Nitegazer

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Nice lookin' buds Schmoker,

I just harvested my BC last night at 8 weeks, 3 days. Your pistols look more red than mine did at 7 weeks, though, so you may be ripe a bit earlier. My trichs were about 20% clear, 70% cloudy and 10% amber at harvest.

IMO, you plant is not going hermie-- I see no stalks. Maybe I was lucky, but I have seen none of the hermie tendencies I have heard exist in fem Barney's strains.

We should def compare the smoke once your done (or vape in my case). I'm sure your enjoying the frangrance as much as I am-- the fruityness tainted by a pungent almost fetid undertone. Take your time curing this lady; I understand the flavor can be memorable.
 
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schmoker

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GFOYLE said:
nice work man! I have the same set up and plan on trying a scrog next time. So your just using water? And are those 6inch pots?
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cheers 11 litre pots / 3 gallon pots roughly 25cm /10 or 11 inches square. im only using water now, i was using veg nutes then flowering nutes but now its time to flush them with just molasses water

Nitegazer said:
Nice lookin' buds Schmoker,

I just harvested my BC last night at 8 weeks, 3 days. Your pistols look more red than mine did at 7 weeks, though, so you may be ripe a bit earlier. My trichs were about 20% clear, 70% cloudy and 10% amber at harvest.

IMO, you plant is not going hermie-- I see no stalks. Maybe I was lucky, but I have seen none of the hermie tendencies I have heard exist in fem Barney's strains.

We should def compare the smoke once your done (or vape in my case). I'm sure your enjoying the frangrance as much as I am-- the fruityness tainted by a pungent almost fetid undertone. Take your time curing this lady; I understand the flavor can be memorable.
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ah so no more 1 more week ! lol...glad you got yours chopped, you looked like you had a pretty big crop going for a 250, interested in the weight if you have scales when its dry?
my last of my previous blue cheese was smoked a month ago but the final buds from her had been curing about 2.5 months and it was just a real fruity smell and taste. hope i can do better again this time??/ will report back if im not too stoned :P

wyteberrywidow said:
Buds looking good.
What would make you think its turning into a he-she?I doubt it looks like some swollen calyxes.
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hey, i wasnt too worried, i guess what got me thinking was just zooming in on the photos and then not being able to get into the tent because its lights out....causes all sorts of weird and wonderful thoughts when you have been waiting for the buds and you cant go double check.....smokers paranoia mind i guess! lol
 
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ROBinBKK

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Yo have you seen what FDD posted....can understand why the leaves look spotty, but im sure you would have noticed.
 
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schmoker

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as my back has been turned some uninvited guests have turned up and decided they too liked the environment.....spidermites :(

my thinking at the moment, is "fuck it, harvest in 7 days a week earlier and flush hard" - is that stupid? it probably is knowing me! lol.... can they cause serious damage in a week that i want to harvest now? does the benefit or them being alive a week flushing and possibly growing more outweigh what the mites can do in a week?
i really need to read up pretty damn fast about mites, so please if you are reading and have knowledge on spidermites chip in on what you would do


for your eyes; some bud! :)



cheese



blue cheese


blue cheese
 
Nitegazer

Nitegazer

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Spider mites like warm, dry environments. If you can get your temps down to the lower 70s and bump the humidity up a bit (keeping it below 60% because of mold risk) you should be able to slow them down.

Also you can spray your plants with a 50/50 mix of water and Isopropyl alcohol with a drop of dish washing liquid to reduce, if not eliminate them. I can understand if you want to skip the soap, since you hope to smoke the buds soon.

So, I would recommend you tweak your environment as much as possible, use the foliar spray (which evaporates quickly), and closely monitor the situation. I would not try to wait it out. The little mite buggers can really damage the plants in short order.

One other note: I would treat any vegging plants you have with Safer Soap or Wiltprof-- they may already be infested.

Here is a useful link:
http://www.emmitsburg.net/gardens/articles/adams/2001/spider_mites.htm

Good luck!
 
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schmoker

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thanks nitegazer, that link and what you said makes sense. im on a reading mission for the rest the night as i need to do something soon if im going to do anything
 
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ROBinBKK

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Bro....found this in another thread:

I had the same problem on my last grow.
What I did saved my plants. and had a good harv.

GO NOW and get some NEEM oil concentrate or pure neem oil. get a normal spray bottle got to your kitchen tap turn on the hot water wait for it to get hot tan fill 1 third full. than I PUT IN ABOUT 4 05 5 teespoons of NEEM OIL.
than fill the spray bottle up most of the way but leave enough room in the bottle to be able to constantly shake it up . so it will stay mixxed up. oil tends to sepperate from water and tghe consistancy will get all fd up. to weak in places and to strong in others.
spray them well befor the lights fgo out so they will dry befor the lights go out. and if you can turn up the ventalation do it till they dry and if you can add any fans to help them dry fast so the lights wont burn them. maybe even raise the light a lil till they are dry.
make sure the mix in the spray bottle is nice and warm when going on the plants so they soak in. to hot is not good to cold either. nice and warm like a bath.

do this every 3 days about 4 times and they should be gone. keep eveything clean and shower before going in the room to prvent contaminatuion they will get on you and back on the plants.


thanks to LA.RAIDER

try not to soak your nugs but soak your leafs especialy on the bottoms of the leafs and stems
and try not to do any more spraying the last 10 days and flush for a minimum 7 days with ro water. youll be go to go.
 
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