Drowning Plant Prior To Harvest

[Brimi]

I read i a post here that completely submerging a plant into water about a week prior to harvest should kickstart the fermenting process? Something about anaerobic process. Anybody tried this yet? - im going to try it in a couple of weeks, but would be nice to hear from more experienced guys.

My plan is:
2 weeks prior to harvest i will flush the plant every day. 1 week prior to harvest i will leave the plant in a bucket of pure water for the last week.

Let me know how this works

 

[420God]

Good luck, I'm doing the oposite. I know you can cure them in water for a week after harvest to lock in the thc but I never heard of doing what your going to.

 

[dewbzillla]

Ummm.... Why would you want to "ferment" your plants?

You want to flush the excess nutrients out of the soil, so that the plant will be forced to use up the elements it has stored in its leaves and other structures... This results in smoother tastier smoke after you've dried and cured the buds...

Flushing consists of giving plain water for the last couple weeks before you chop, but you still need to let the soil dry out between waterings... Don't let the soil stay super wet, you're just inviting mold and mildew to infest your grow.

 

[420God]

You want to decarbonize your plants with a nice slow dry and cure, not soak and destroy your weed basically. If you do what your telling us, chances are you're going to have some pretty rough smoke.

 

[dewbzillla]

Yep... You're going to destroy your buds bigtime if you do what you say you plan to do.

 

[ganjaluvr]

Brimi, you should really listen to these peoples advice. Unless, that is.. you want to ruin your crop. That's all on you though.

Even during the last 2 weeks of flowering, which is when I stop giving nutes, and give only water.. I still wait until the soil is dry until I water them again. But what your saying is, your going to "flush" them EVERY day.. for two weeks straight?? yeah, your going to have problems man.

But again, its all on you. Good luck.. cause your going to need all the luck you can get.. if you do what your saying your thinking of doing.

Just trying to help.

peace.

 

[Brimi]

Hi Guys
Thanks for all the warnings ;O) - i am a pretty experienced grower and am very used to flushing my plants (it's hydro ebb & flow by the way). So i'm not just some first timer wanting to do something ekstra. Fermentation is what happens when you cure the plant, so my guess is that this can actually work - it will definitely not get to ruin the bud on such a short time.(and i will off course try this on just a couple of plants to be sure of that;O)) - Anyway - unless you actually tried it i think it's still worth a try - the guy that wrote the article about it was pretty serious about it.
I'll post again, when i'm in the know ;O)

 

[ganjaluvr]

Hi Guys
Thanks for all the warnings ;O) - i am a pretty experienced grower and am very used to flushing my plants (it's hydro ebb & flow by the way). So i'm not just some first timer wanting to do something ekstra. Fermentation is what happens when you cure the plant, so my guess is that this can actually work - it will definitely not get to ruin the bud on such a short time.(and i will off course try this on just a couple of plants to be sure of that;O)) - Anyway - unless you actually tried it i think it's still worth a try - the guy that wrote the article about it was pretty serious about it.
I'll post again, when i'm in the know ;O)

ohhhhh... well that explains everything then. sheesh! why didn't you tell everyone that to begin with?!? I thought you were in a soil medium. But yeah, if your running a hydro system.. ehh I dunno. I don't want to give you any advice with that hydro setup as I don't have much hydro experience and I don't want to give you false information. The entire 4 or 5 years I've been growing.. I've always used soil. Main reason why I haven't tried a hydro setup is because I just don't have the room for a nice and proper hydro system.

In fact, I only grow two to three plants at a time.. as I only grow for my personal enjoyment/consumption and nobody else. I mean, I may smoke some of my buds with my stoner buddies.. but that's about it. and even then, I don't smoke much of mine when I do smoke with them.

but yeah, now that you state that your using a hydro setup.. I guess it kinda makes sense now.

 

[dewbzillla]

You seriously need to look up the definition of the word "fermentation".
Fermentation is what happens when yeast consume the sugars in a fluid, creating alcohol. No fermentation happens to cannabis, neither in the drying nor in the curing stage.

 

[Wordz]

this plan sounds like a great way to get moldy buds

 

[Brimi]

Hehe, yes Ganja - saw that i had missed something out.
Wordz - yes, but i will have plenty of air flow on the plants during this.

Dewbzilla - I actually think you need to do just that. I think the process that happens when you cure the bud is fermentation. This is for instance also done to tobaco - that's why it's brown and not green.
Somebody else correct me if im wrong.

 

[dewbzillla]

Well since you don't want to look it up for yourself, I did it for you.

fer·men·ta·tion [fur-men-tey-shuhn]
–noun
1. the act or process of fermenting.
2. a change brought about by a ferment, as yeast enzymes, which convert grape sugar into ethyl alcohol.

Go ahead, try to "ferment" your plants... Haha.

 

[bigman4270]

Well since you don't want to look it up for yourself, I did it for you.

fer·men·ta·tion [fur-men-tey-shuhn]
–noun
1. the act or process of fermenting.
2. a change brought about by a ferment, as yeast enzymes, which convert grape sugar into ethyl alcohol.

Go ahead, try to "ferment" your plants... Haha.

Here is a little info so that you may understand what the fermentation process is as it relates to MJ not Wine.

https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog1231-harvesting-drying-curing-research-study.html

 

[Brimi]

You need to look up some more dewbzilla. Try writing "fermenting tobaco" for instance and see what you get there. You don't have to go all "haha" - i just want to clear up the topic, and i think that you got only a small part of fermenting to your knowledge since this is definitely what you do to the bud when you cure it.

 

[R2F]

It is a type of fermentation that's used in Tobacco leaf. When I lived out in the Carolinas I met a few people that had fields of tobacco. They dried their leaf slow to let it turn brown. (How anything dries at all in North and South Carolina is beyond me.. too much humidity, feels like you have to take a shower every hour).

But anyway, they said if they dried it too quick, the tobacco dried green. Something about the natural bacteria in the leaf or on the leaf that converted starch to sugar. Green Tobac was smokable, but had a bad taste supposedly. (I never tried it).

If a batch dried too quick they would wet it down and let it dry for a day or two to turn it brown.

In the case of Cannabis, you're not smoking starchy leaves (other than sweet leaf nubs that have a bunch of frost), so I can't see how this would apply to this plant.

 

[Brimi]

Hi Bigman - great reading you got there. Really a lot of great links and stuff - have bookmarked to come back to that later.

R2F - it applies to all plant matter - also the bud. Read the post from Bigman's link.

 

[420God]

Hey bigman that was a good post. I learned something new, not something I'm going to do because I want quality not speed but still informative to those that like to cut corners.

 

[Brimi]

Just read this: Fermentation is strictly defined as any way of anaerobically degrade pyruvic acid and recycle NAD+ to keep glycolysis going. You can then categorize this process as lactic acid fermentation (where pyruvate accepts electrons from NADH directly and becomes lactate), alcoholic fermentation (where pyruvate is first decarboxylated to acetaldehyde which then accepts electrons from NADH to become ethanol) and others (which are much more obscure). So technically, human cells are able to carry out lactic acid fermentation. Liver cells also have the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase (responsible for ethanol formation in yeast and other fungi), but we use it in the reverse direction so to speak to get rid of any alcohol which we consume by converting it to pyruvate.
Plants however, can carry out alcoholic fermatation. They don't normally do it, because plants are usually in contact with oxygen. However, if you flood the root of a plant for about a week the cells are starved of oxygen, and because of this they will start carrying out alcoholic fermentation to survive.

 

[gumball]

Yes, I agree about the fermentation. It is a process that is tied to a lot in our natural world, not just making booze. A simple definition on fermentation does not disprove what brimi is going to do. But the end result for brimi will be a partially cured plant at harvest rather than just a cut up plant. Do some reading on fermentation, its there. There are a few who have totally drowned their plants for a couple weeks, and the plant never showed any stress, ANY!

Good luck brimi, I think it will work for ya

 

[cafeculture]

interesting reading
thanks guys