Advanced Nutrients

[Beansly]

Judging by their advertisements you'd think they were the Ferrari of hydroponic nutrients. The one master grower I actually knew swore by them religiously. What do you all think. I read a lot of people using General Hydroponics here. Is it just cause they're expensive that some ppl bash? Cause honestly, im sold. Im going advanced nutes when I get my table running.

 

[Learning all the time]

Well, I use advanced. I started with pretty much just the three part, using botanicare supplements thru flowering, like hydroplex, sweet, etc. I was sold on it by a buddy to start using everything they have, using their nutrient calculator as a guideline. I dilute the ingredients to almost 25% tho. Target ppm around 1100 in veg and growing to around 1650 in flowering. I have heard that "Great White" is a good substitution for tarantula and piranha, I'm trying it now. Hygrozyme instead of sensizyme too. Still use cal-mag plus from botanicare. My only complaint is that going with their nutrient calculator my ppm is upwards of 2000 in veg...so i cut it back considerably and watch my plants to see what they tell me. Good luck with your decision, and don't let broke haters or any nay sayer sway your judgement. What works for you works for you.

BTW..im under 2k hps in hydroton in shortened 3gal bags rooted in rapid rooters...

 

[homebrewer]

People hate AN because plant nutrition is about the essential macro and micro nutrients and AN charges WAAAY too much for said essentials. They market these nutrients like they're the company that pioneered them and sell new growers on the idea that they NEED to be spending an arm-and-a-leg in order to get great results. Your results wont be any better with AN than they will be with GH or another respectable company out there and AN is in some cases 3 times the cost. Use whatever you want but no 'master' growers are using AN, I promise you that.

 

[Polecat]

People hate AN because plant nutrition is about the essential macro and micro nutrients and AN charges WAAAY too much for said essentials. They market these nutrients like they're the company that pioneered them and sell new growers on the idea that they NEED to be spending an arm-and-a-leg in order to get great results. Your results wont be any better with AN than they will be with GH or another respectable company out there and AN is in some cases 3 times the cost. Use whatever you want but no 'master' growers are using AN, I promise you that.

agreed. + rep

 

[Beansly]

People hate AN because plant nutrition is about the essential macro and micro nutrients and AN charges WAAAY too much for said essentials. They market these nutrients like they're the company that pioneered them and sell new growers on the idea that they NEED to be spending an arm-and-a-leg in order to get great results. Your results wont be any better with AN than they will be with GH or another respectable company out there and AN is in some cases 3 times the cost. Use whatever you want but no 'master' growers are using AN, I promise you that.

Thats is a good point. Im not one to be won over by hype. In fact I use fox farm and have had more than adequate results. There are just so many people that love them.
They make a good argument for all theyre products, and most importantly, ttheyre still around. If they were as bad as everyone says they are, we wouldnt even be talking about it. Ive always said that growing weed is asy. Growers are the one that complicate things. But indoor hydroponics is more like a science than growing outside (organicallly). What i like about AN is they treat growing like a science and the logical/rational side of me likes that.

Well, I use advanced. I started with pretty much just the three part, using botanicare supplements thru flowering, like hydroplex, sweet, etc. I was sold on it by a buddy to start using everything they have, using their nutrient calculator as a guideline. I dilute the ingredients to almost 25% tho. Target ppm around 1100 in veg and growing to around 1650 in flowering. I have heard that "Great White" is a good substitution for tarantula and piranha, I'm trying it now. Hygrozyme instead of sensizyme too. Still use cal-mag plus from botanicare. My only complaint is that going with their nutrient calculator my ppm is upwards of 2000 in veg...so i cut it back considerably and watch my plants to see what they tell me. Good luck with your decision, and don't let broke haters or any nay sayer sway your judgement. What works for you works for you.

BTW..im under 2k hps in hydroton in shortened 3gal bags rooted in rapid rooters...

Thats cool. Have you ever used any other nutrients? Have you noticed a difference really?

 

[squarepush3r]

speaking of nutrients, this company GreenLeaf Nutrients makes very similar formulations clones of some of Advanced Nutrients products, but charges a lot less, but they only come in dry nutrient form (so you have to add water or add it to your rez). I think they have some really good products

http://myworld.ebay.com/greenleafnutrients

 

[decrimCA]

speaking of nutrients, this company GreenLeaf Nutrients makes very similar formulations clones of some of Advanced Nutrients products, but charges a lot less, but they only come in dry nutrient form (so you have to add water or add it to your rez). I think they have some really good products

http://myworld.ebay.com/greenleafnutrients

Hmm, can you say 'shill' boys and girls? LOL

My logic with using AN is this - they work. I mean, the science is great and who wouldn't want to save a few bucks, but when it comes down to it, AN is made for growing MJ.

And that makes more sense to me than any of the other arguments I've ever seen.

I mean, to use that Ferrari analogy, you wouldn't use turpentine in that car's engine, would you? Absolutely not. So when you're using nutrients for your grows, why use anything but a nutrient that has been tested to be most effective for MJ?

Sure, the other nutrient companies have science behind them, and I respect that. But the truth is that the other nutrients aren't exactly engineered for MJ growers. And that just doesn't seem to work for me.

That said, I've seen good results in other grows with other nutrients. However, the results I've seen with AN just make me more than happy to spend my money on them.

And, honestly, I don't ever follow the instructions on the packaging anymore, and I've found I can use a lot less nutrients without sacrificing any results. All you need to do is to use about 20% less and you will still see great growth and harvests. Or maybe that's just something that works for my grows.

Eh, I'm not sure about 'hype' about AN since I've seen results. I think sometimes people are so focused on things they don't like (or they've heard they shouldn't like) that they never actually try the nutes out themselves. And, to me, that seems to be kind of dumb. Why talk crap about something if you've never used it?

 

[mydixiewrecked]

Hmm, can you say 'shill' boys and girls? LOL

My logic with using AN is this - they work. I mean, the science is great and who wouldn't want to save a few bucks, but when it comes down to it, AN is made for growing MJ.

And that makes more sense to me than any of the other arguments I've ever seen.

I mean, to use that Ferrari analogy, you wouldn't use turpentine in that car's engine, would you? Absolutely not. So when you're using nutrients for your grows, why use anything but a nutrient that has been tested to be most effective for MJ?

Sure, the other nutrient companies have science behind them, and I respect that. But the truth is that the other nutrients aren't exactly engineered for MJ growers. And that just doesn't seem to work for me.

That said, I've seen good results in other grows with other nutrients. However, the results I've seen with AN just make me more than happy to spend my money on them.

And, honestly, I don't ever follow the instructions on the packaging anymore, and I've found I can use a lot less nutrients without sacrificing any results. All you need to do is to use about 20% less and you will still see great growth and harvests. Or maybe that's just something that works for my grows.

Eh, I'm not sure about 'hype' about AN since I've seen results. I think sometimes people are so focused on things they don't like (or they've heard they shouldn't like) that they never actually try the nutes out themselves. And, to me, that seems to be kind of dumb. Why talk crap about something if you've never used it?

worked for AN long? Just kidding, By saying it is made specifically for MJ, they are trying to Justify there High prices.
If it works for you and your happy and don't feel ripped off. More power to you, but a $20 jug of jack's classic will produce the same if not better results, and even better then that is subcools' supersoil.just feed water and my girls are healthier then any food I ever fed them.

 

[homebrewer]

Hmm, can you say 'shill' boys and girls? LOL

My logic with using AN is this - they work. I mean, the science is great and who wouldn't want to save a few bucks, but when it comes down to it, AN is made for growing MJ.

And that makes more sense to me than any of the other arguments I've ever seen.

I mean, to use that Ferrari analogy, you wouldn't use turpentine in that car's engine, would you? Absolutely not. So when you're using nutrients for your grows, why use anything but a nutrient that has been tested to be most effective for MJ?

Sure, the other nutrient companies have science behind them, and I respect that. But the truth is that the other nutrients aren't exactly engineered for MJ growers. And that just doesn't seem to work for me.

That said, I've seen good results in other grows with other nutrients. However, the results I've seen with AN just make me more than happy to spend my money on them.

And, honestly, I don't ever follow the instructions on the packaging anymore, and I've found I can use a lot less nutrients without sacrificing any results. All you need to do is to use about 20% less and you will still see great growth and harvests. Or maybe that's just something that works for my grows.

Eh, I'm not sure about 'hype' about AN since I've seen results. I think sometimes people are so focused on things they don't like (or they've heard they shouldn't like) that they never actually try the nutes out themselves. And, to me, that seems to be kind of dumb. Why talk crap about something if you've never used it?

As I said earlier, plant nutrition is about the essentials and if AN was tailoring those essentials to MJ plants, why did they copy GH's 3-part recipe?

 

[Little Tommy]

I am compelled to chime in here. I think everybody wants the same thing, great results. I started out with some nutrients that were brand name and fit into my budget. After a couple years and some successful grows under my belt I decided to go with some more complicated to mix and more expensive nutrients. To my dismay, the results wren't noticeably better than my original nutrients. At the end of the day, the grower is responsible for the quality and yield of the plant. I think some people (myself included when I was a noob grower) want the nutrients to do all the work. Any good grower knows that this is certainly not the case. Being a good plant whisperer is way more important than the brand of nutrients you choose. I was in my local hydro shop a few weeks ago (Sunnyside Hydro - sorry shameless plug for good people) to pick up a few things and there was a customer at the counter complaining to the proprietor about the lack of Advanced Nutrients in his shop. He tried to explain to the customer that they were too expensive and not enough people bought them for him to carry the line. He then told this customer the name and location of another store in the area that carried them. Maybe it is just me, but I thought that was a class act.

 

[mydixiewrecked]

I am compelled to chime in here. I think everybody wants the same thing, great results. I started out with some nutrients that were brand name and fit into my budget. After a couple years and some successful grows under my belt I decided to go with some more complicated to mix and more expensive nutrients. To my dismay, the results wren't noticeably better than my original nutrients. At the end of the day, the grower is responsible for the quality and yield of the plant. I think some people (myself included when I was a noob grower) want the nutrients to do all the work. Any good grower knows that this is certainly not the case. Being a good plant whisperer is way more important than the brand of nutrients you choose. I was in my local hydro shop a few weeks ago (Sunnyside Hydro - sorry shameless plug for good people) to pick up a few things and there was a customer at the counter complaining to the proprietor about the lack of Advanced Nutrients in his shop. He tried to explain to the customer that they were too expensive and not enough people bought them for him to carry the line. He then told this customer the name and location of another store in the area that carried them. Maybe it is just me, but I thought that was a class act.

forgot who's sig it was, but it went,
DON"T LOVE YOUR PLANTS TO DEATH!!!

less is more in gardening.

 

[bigsourD]

All be damned, not again............