Vote NO on prop 19... (great read for anyone that will be voting in november in cali)

[nathenking]

so they ripped up his card and werent pressing charges??? Sounds like a hassel...lol... And you guys need to VOTE YES because people are getting fake cards ripped up and not charges pressed... That says alot to me... why not wait until 2012 for a better prop??? People arent gettin fucked with now, so what is the big hurry? I could understand if you lived in wyoming or georgia or something were they would actually arrest you for that, but nobody is getting arrested, so why rush this bill thru????

 

[Weedoozie]

so they ripped up his card and werent pressing charges??? Sounds like a hassel...lol... And you guys need to VOTE YES because people are getting fake cards ripped up and not charges pressed... That says alot to me... why not wait until 2012 for a better prop??? People arent gettin fucked with now, so what is the big hurry? I could understand if you lived in wyoming or georgia or something were they would actually arrest you for that, but nobody is getting arrested, so why rush this bill thru????

Well, this is also not necessarily true. The people who do not have medical cards are being put into prison or have already been put into prison on the 3 strikes law which includes getting busted on 3 separate accounts of possession or intent to sell. I think we can all agree that the current situation is not the best but this prop is also not ideal. Although it is the only prop we're going to see on the ballot for a while as it took 1.3 million dollars of Richard Lee's investment for his future business to get it there in the first place...

Personally, I would love to contribute $ to help get a better prop out there for 2012 but the chances are not high that everyone can cooperate and procure a better prop as well as get it on the ballot in that time. Unless there are some incredibly committed people out there...

 

[Needofweed]

my card is not state issued and it allows to posses 2 pounds of mj.
when i first got it me and a friend (has same card i do and recomended me the dr.) were driving to the coats and we were pulled over buy a CHP for tinted windows. I had about 2 1/2 oz. and my buddy had a little more than me.CHP seen our weed, seen our cards and gave me a fix-it ticket for my widows.

 

[Weedoozie]

my card is not state issued and it allows to posses 2 pounds of mj.
when i first got it me and a friend (has same card i do and recomended me the dr.) were driving to the coats and we were pulled over buy a CHP for tinted windows. I had about 2 1/2 oz. and my buddy had a little more than me.CHP seen our weed, seen our cards and gave me a fix-it ticket for my widows.

You got lucky man, I guess the LAPD just suck more than the rest of the peace officers

 

[Needofweed]

and that same friend im mentioned was visited buy our county sheriff for his 20 plant grow in his back yard but they left cause it was legal with his card.

like i said what cali needs is a prop that just takes the necessary card or dr. recommendation out of prop215.

 

[Needofweed]

prop19 is a peace of crap prop.
i smoke grow and buy legaly right now tax free.
in other words heres prop19 in a nutshell........government says give me as much money as i want and ill let you smoke grow and buy restricted amount of weed , and people say ok heres my wallet

 

[Teeaytchsee]

look man im voting no. its not my fualt you hate the "drug dealers" that suppply you now bet you didnt hate them before prop19.sorry you would rather buy your weed at a gass station.
and if u got your 215 card and are paying 60 an eighth thats your choice.
i got my 215 card because i get headachs for $60.you dont need aids or be dying to get your card.
you just need the want to live a better, more comfortable life.
i grow my own weed and buy it inbeetween harvest of other growers for no more than $120 an once for top grade medical of course.

Oh yeah and i pay zero none 0 taxes not 1.8 not 0.8 not 0.1 nothing.

this is an inherently moronic response...

"im voting no because im voting no. your logic and reason wont change me from voting no for no reason!"

...unbelievable...

 

[Teeaytchsee]

what? did you skip this part?

The tax, which makes no distinction between medical and recreational cultivation, would cost a resident $15,000 a year if he or she cultivates pot in a 5-foot-by-5-foot growing space indoors​

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/08/29/2990210/rancho-cordova-asking-voters-to.html#ixzz0zpq1qJ8T​

you are STILL only referring to city ordinance that has nothing to do with prop 19. petition your city council, mayor, and neighbors for that issue. christ! i didnt think anyone could be so absurdly daft and void of intellect, you've proven that they in fact can. so ill say thank YOU sir for opening my eyes wider.

 

[Teeaytchsee]

so they ripped up his card and werent pressing charges??? Sounds like a hassel...lol... And you guys need to VOTE YES because people are getting fake cards ripped up and not charges pressed... That says alot to me... why not wait until 2012 for a better prop??? People arent gettin fucked with now, so what is the big hurry? I could understand if you lived in wyoming or georgia or something were they would actually arrest you for that, but nobody is getting arrested, so why rush this bill thru????

really? more proof you failed to read what was posted. such limited thoughts from such small minded people.

 

[Teeaytchsee]

Well, this is also not necessarily true. The people who do not have medical cards are being put into prison or have already been put into prison on the 3 strikes law which includes getting busted on 3 separate accounts of possession or intent to sell. I think we can all agree that the current situation is not the best but this prop is also not ideal. Although it is the only prop we're going to see on the ballot for a while as it took 1.3 million dollars of Richard Lee's investment for his future business to get it there in the first place...

Personally, I would love to contribute $ to help get a better prop out there for 2012 but the chances are not high that everyone can cooperate and procure a better prop as well as get it on the ballot in that time. Unless there are some incredibly committed people out there...

well said. try to keep that composure, i know mine is slipping pretty quickly with these people walking through life with blinders on oblivious to realities even when presented right in front of them. irritating...

p.s. im unsure how to do the multi-quote thing so sorry for multiple posts

 

[Teeaytchsee]

prop19 is a peace of crap prop.
i smoke grow and buy legaly right now tax free.
in other words heres prop19 in a nutshell........government says give me as much money as i want and ill let you smoke grow and buy restricted amount of weed , and people say ok heres my wallet

you are only fooling yourself.

 

[nathenking]

you are only fooling yourself.

Not really... He is intouch with the line he has drawn for him self... I respect that... Its kinda like a personal code thing bro... You either have one or you dont...

 

[Dan Kone]

first off quit putting words in my mouth.

says the guy who just made the claim that I hate drug dealers when I've said no such thing.

now people that have been buying weed of these drug dealers are all for saying fuck off for all the years you supplied me with what i wanted.

Nothing is stopping those drug dealers from opening up a legal dispensary. Why should I feel sorry for them and vote in favor of prohibition all because they are too lazy to form a corporation?

 

[GaZtehgrower]

Ah I read the title of this thread and I was like... "Are you crazy?!" After reading further I was surprised how proposition 19 cheats people into thinking it will be good and everything will end in a happy ending. Well no I thought it was too good to be true and yes it was too good to be true, the rich get richer and the poor stay that way. The government will not follow the humanitarian road.. They will make it worse. Vote NO! (Unless in the future walking down the street will be breaking the law) It is truly ridiculous how it came to this... Truly vexed

 

[nathenking]

Ah I read the title of this thread and I was like... "Are you crazy?!" After reading further I was surprised how proposition 19 cheats people into thinking it will be good and everything will end in a happy ending. Well no I thought it was too good to be true and yes it was too good to be true, the rich get richer and the poor stay that way. The government will not follow the humanitarian road.. They will make it worse. Vote NO! (Unless in the future walking down the street will be breaking the law) It is truly ridiculous how it came to this... Truly vexed

Exactly.... THEY WILL MAKE IT WORSE... Its that simple... Anything the gov't touches turns into shit... This prop 19 wont be any different people...

 

[Teeaytchsee]

Ah I read the title of this thread and I was like... "Are you crazy?!" After reading further I was surprised how proposition 19 cheats people into thinking it will be good and everything will end in a happy ending. Well no I thought it was too good to be true and yes it was too good to be true, the rich get richer and the poor stay that way. The government will not follow the humanitarian road.. They will make it worse. Vote NO! (Unless in the future walking down the street will be breaking the law) It is truly ridiculous how it came to this... Truly vexed

sure... sure...

and WHAT if ANYTHING brought you to that? people are going to fucking make money any possible way they can even if it is at the expense of others. what species of retarded monkey do you have to be to halt progression and stand in the way of a step towards ending prohibition simply because some cops that are assholes won t change immediately and people stand to make some money? norly it CANT be the weed thats melted your brain. im curious... when exactly did what you THINK become the guideline we all should live by? hmm? srsly? head... in... ass...

 

[Teeaytchsee]

Exactly.... THEY WILL MAKE IT WORSE... Its that simple... Anything the gov't touches turns into shit... This prop 19 wont be any different people...

paranoia paranoia everybody's coming to get you! :knock knock: thats the cope man! hide! DAMN THE MAN BRAH!

 

[Teeaytchsee]

when i realized you werent listening to rational thought is when i lost all respect for you. you are a base moron and (though it may be unintentional) you are working to perpetuate a highly flawed system and by your ignorance attempting to ruin our first REAL chance towards legalization. something that, believe it or not, will have an effect nationwide as well as through canada, mexica, germany, switzerland, etc. that are all closely watching us and several of them are taking cues from us.

until you can come up with real evidence to support your claims kindly shut your fucking pie hole. ty

hell at least needy tried by citing proposed city ordinance. sure its not a good argument since it has nothing to do directly with the topic at hand, but its one that we can actually discuss.

 

[fdd2blk]

what's with all the insults?

 

[Teeaytchsee]

what's with all the insults?

if the arguments are going to be based on nothing than why should the opposed side be the only ones mud-slinging? they refuse to listen to thought out and supported information and instead vomit up the same base-less arguments over and over. so yes im done with the nice nice. if you want to have an adult conversation im all for it, but if nothing gets through its equivalent to throwing sand on a playground. so ill throw it back till we can get back to the point.

like them im expressing how i "feel" and what i "think" and it has nothing to do with the argument. you of all people should realize im more than willing to bite back.

i want to continue this debate in a mature and civil fashion using knowledge and research to support claims, but when its ignored whats the point?

you are right though personal attacks need to stop (on both sides). the point is made, i think.