Prop 19 Is BAD For Small Business.

[Smrt]

Read the fineprint first, Im sure there's alot more to the picture than meets the eye. Something tells me there's grey areas in there designed to fuck the average smoker for some stupid reason. Can you tell I dont trust the feds yet ? Usually when they do shit like this we always end up fucked somehow. I just dont believe its going to be to our benefit 100%, whats in it for them ???

 

[Dan Kone]

Read the fineprint first, Im sure there's alot more to the picture than meets the eye. Something tells me there's grey areas in there designed to fuck the average smoker for some stupid reason.

There are grey areas in prop 215. Is that bad too?

 

[Sure Shot]

Cal NORML Release Sept. 1, 2010
According to data from the Bureau of Criminal Statistics, California reported nearly the same number of marijuana arrests in 2009 as in the previous, record year.
In 2009, there were 17,008 felony and 61,164 misdemeanor marijuana arrests, for a total of 78,172. In 2008, there were 17,126 felonies and 61,388 misdemeanors, for a total of 78,514. This was the highest number of arrests since marijuana was decriminalized in 1976.
Arrests for other drugs have been declining. Narcotics (heroin & cocaine) arrests plummeted to 43,956, down 17% since last year. Arrests for dangerous drugs have fallen 33% since 2006.
A bill to make possession of less than one ounce of marijuana an infraction rather than a misdemeanor, SB 1449 by Sen. Mark Leno, is currently headed to the Governor's desk. The bill would result in some 60,000 fewer misdemeanor cases, saving the state millions of dollars in court & prosecution costs.

 

[veggiegardener]

Yea, im sure you want to keep your monopoly, go fuck yourself. Our founding fathers said it should be legal and accessible to everyone, not you selfish fucks.

Guess what im going to do when it becomes legal? Get a commercial license and sell it for $5 a gram, medical grade. Fuck your business over hard core.

Keep it medical? Deprive your fellow citizens of the basic rights they deserve? Your scum.

I really doubt your skills are up to the task.

If this paases, you'll see more schwag from wannabe growers than since the glut of seedy crap that came in from Mexico, in '68. $5/gram? Maybe $1.25.

 

[veggiegardener]

Pay the government for approval? Where the fuck in the bill does it say you have to pay to grow your own? It doesnt.

Dude, your scum, your pathetic. You dont support what this country was founded on, you support slavery. I hope you get arrested and go to prison and get ass raped.

Well, this is who's voting FOR 19?

Did you vote for George Bush, as well? Your thinking seems to be on that level.

 

[veggiegardener]

It could be the fucking fairy godmother nazi pimp slap act, if it legalizes pot it's a good thing. Pull your head out of your ass. This is LEGALIZATION. If you can't compete, get out of the game

Didn't they teach you to read, in Colorado?

It DOES NOT legalize shit.

It lets you grow or buy weed, if you're willing to pay the price!

$15.000 annually in Rancho Cordova is just the beginning.

 

[veggiegardener]

post #10 of this threadhttps://www.rollitup.org/legalization-marijuana/366167-say-no-pot-walmarts-now.html#post4646477



post #14 of this thread
https://www.rollitup.org/legalization-marijuana/353967-voting-against-prop-19-means-2.html

That's twice this week I've seen you post that you're against legalization.

Now you're running around claiming to support legalization, just not prop 19.

Basically, I've just proved you're full of shit. Sorry dude, but you forced me to do it. You can't just run around saying whatever the hell you think sounds good with no concern for the truth. You've done way too much of that.

I wouldn't bring this up if you made those posts 6 months ago and changed your mind. But those posts are from 2-3 days ago! On the 15th you claim to be against legalization, on the 16th you claim to be for it. Congrats, you've just been exposed and lost any credibility.

You're just another example of people willing to say anything true or not to opposed prop 19. If prop 19 was really as bad as you claim, you wouldn't need to lie so much to oppose it.

If Prop 19 were about legalization you might have a case.

Unfortunately it is only about offering small jurisdictions a way to cash in or prohibit Cannabis through rediculous fees and taxes.

Read 19 again, with that in mind.

Or enjoy trying to make a profit with a $600/sq ft tax.(You think RC will be the only one?)

 

[Dan Kone]

Didn't they teach you to read, in Colorado?

It DOES NOT legalize shit.

lying.

It lets you grow or buy weed, if you're willing to pay the price!

lying again.

You're implying that you have to pay a fee in order to grow under prop 19. No where does prop 19 include a fee for growing bud.

Why do you need to lie so much to oppose prop 19?

 

[veggiegardener]

If you read this post and still vote no on 19 then you are scum.

The first time my wife is without her meds due to Prop 19, I'll be in the Bay Area taking my meds from the greed heads supporting this bill.

Maybe I'll go to jail, but I'll get out of jail before the prop 19 supporter gets out of the urn.

How is that for selfish.

You base your stand on self interest, so I will too.

For a few thousand dollars a day, you can hire Blackwater to protect you. You'll need it.

Fucking with the status quo has a way of organizing opposition.

 

[Dan Kone]

If Prop 19 were about legalization you might have a case.

No. I definitely proved my case. That is indisputable. Notice he didn't refute my post?

He claimed that he did not support prohibition and I called him out on his lie. I showed two instances from this week where he admits to supporting prohibition. In those posts he did not say he supported legalization but was against prop 19 as he claimed. He directly stated he was outright against ending prohibition. That is solid proof he's a liar and what he says can't be taken at face value.

It is direct proof. He got caught. It's indisputable. No amount of spin or bullshit you can say changes that.

 

[SB Garlic]

Fuck you, Dimwit.

lol now you have turned to anger and hatred because your true motives have been outted. Game over.

 

[SB Garlic]

The first time my wife is without her meds due to Prop 19, I'll be in the Bay Area taking my meds from the greed heads supporting this bill.

Maybe I'll go to jail, but I'll get out of jail before the prop 19 supporter gets out of the urn.

How is that for selfish.

You base your stand on self interest, so I will too.

For a few thousand dollars a day, you can hire Blackwater to protect you. You'll need it.

Fucking with the status quo has a way of organizing opposition.

Where are you getting the idea that you wont be able to grow meds any longer?

 

[veggiegardener]

Translation: I gots mine. What the hell do I care if other people aren't protected.

When I was in college the police walked into my house because they claimed to smell marijuana. They found a bong and ~1gram. Then they tore my apartment apart searching unsuccessfully for more. Then they wrote me a ticket. Years after that I was denied for several jobs because of that.

Shit like that still happens all the time all over Cali. Prop 19 stops that.



Even the most casual smoker who would never even think about having a 215 card deserves protection from having their lives damaged over prohibition. Prop 19 gives them some. It's true that prop 19 doesn't offer full protection and is not the end of prohibition. But it's a damn good start towards that goal.

Silly argument. You're in this for the money. Claiming otherwise is lying.

All the pot head will be guaranteed with Prop 19 is that he will pay top dollar for schwag.

 

[veggiegardener]

There are grey areas in prop 215. Is that bad too?

And after 14 years, most of the loose ends have been "hashed" out.

Now you want to wipe that out and start over?

Vote NO on prop 19.

 

[veggiegardener]

lying.




lying again.

You're implying that you have to pay a fee in order to grow under prop 19. No where does prop 19 include a fee for growing bud.

Why do you need to lie so much to oppose prop 19?

Anybody claiming literacy should understand this is precisely what Prop 19 does. Just READ THE FUCKING NAME OF THE BILL.

I'll be happy to support any bill that protects our rights as medical marijuana patients.

Prop 19 doesn't, Liar.

The big lie(your method) only works if no opposition steps forward.

Here I am, and here I'll be, as long as greed(you) is represented in this debate.

You call names, but refuse to address the specifics of the proposition, BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU ARE WRONG.

LOL

 

[veggiegardener]

No. I definitely proved my case. That is indisputable. Notice he didn't refute my post?

He claimed that he did not support prohibition and I called him out on his lie. I showed two instances from this week where he admits to supporting prohibition. In those posts he did not say he supported legalization but was against prop 19 as he claimed. He directly stated he was outright against ending prohibition. That is solid proof he's a liar and what he says can't be taken at face value.

It is direct proof. He got caught. It's indisputable. No amount of spin or bullshit you can say changes that.

Saying something is so doesn't mean it is.

Especially from a tainted source, like yourself.

 

[veggiegardener]

Where are you getting the idea that you wont be able to grow meds any longer?

My grow isn't protected under Prop 19. 300 square feet, approved by the local police. You want to take 92% of my capacity, when it just covers our current needs.

I will maintain my wife's meds, even it if it ends badly for the "legal" commercial growers.

Remember, you can do whatever you want, as long as you're willing to face the consequences.

If I have to choose between my wife's survival, and your well being, you won't survive.

We fought a decade long battle to reach our current compromise with the local justice system.

Take that away, and I become your worst enemy.

 

[SB Garlic]

My grow isn't protected under Prop 19. 300 square feet, approved by the local police. You want to take 92% of my capacity, when it just covers our current needs.

I will maintain my wife's meds, even it if it ends badly for the "legal" commercial growers.

Remember, you can do whatever you want, as long as you're willing to face the consequences.

If I have to choose between my wife's survival, and your well being, you won't survive.

We fought a decade long battle to reach our current compromise with the local justice system.

Take that away, and I become your worst enemy.

prop 19 doesnt change prop 215 and your doctors rec

 

[SB Garlic]

If I have to choose between my wife's survival, and your well being, you won't survive.

What does this even mean? Im just a guy who enjoys pot and wants to see it un-demonized and prices drop. You should consider going to some sort of psychiatrist.

 

[Dan Kone]

prop 19 doesnt change prop 215 and your doctors rec

in fact, nothing can. The supreme court has already ruled that it is unconstitutional to pass a limit contradicting a doctors rec. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to mislead people.