A chance for a scientific drugs policy, The Guardian UK (about time)

mlore

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A chance for a scientific drugs policy

There's a growing recognition that Labour's incoherent drugs policy has failed. Let's build a science-based replacement



Last week Professor Roger Pertwee called for cannabis to be licensed for sale, and now Tim Hollis, the Association of Chief Police Officers' lead officer on drugs, has said the current criminalisation-based approach to policing cannabis use should be reviewed. Pertwee and Hollis are bringing a welcome breath of fresh air to the debate about drugs and the harm they do.
The government now has the chance to take a genuinely science-based approach to drugs policy. Labour took an extremely distorted and punitive view of cannabis. It rejected both scientific evidence and public opinion that its harms were relatively modest and reclassified it to Class B status under the 1971 Misuse of Drugs Act so that possession for personal use can now result in up to five years in prison. Worse, Labour also instigated a policy of pursuing users with an almost religious fervour with police sniffer dogs assisting in interventions at tube stations and other places where users might be easily sequestered and searched.
Why was this done? It appears that Labour believed that cannabis was very harmful to mental health; especially that it caused schizophrenia. Yet as the advisory body the ACMD pointed out in its 2008 cannabis review, to stop one case of schizophrenia more than 5,000 young men would have to be prevented from ever using cannabis. This statistic negates any meaningful value in controlling cannabis to improve mental health.
Labour also held the view that punishment would reduce use and hence harms. There is no meaningful evidence in favour of this view. The evidence we do have – for example, from the experiences with decriminalisation in the Netherlands and some Australian states – is that decriminalisation leads to a reduction in harms.
Science cannot determine alone what the framework for drugs regulation should be. But if policy is not grounded in the science it can easily collapse into prejudice, moralism and authoritarianism. The chaos earlier this year over the "legal high" mephedrone raised very significant issues of evidence in relation to new drugs of unknown harm. Alcohol is legal yet is producing growing levels of damage which are well detailed in government reports but recommendations for harm reduction are not acted upon. A recent scientific review of drug harms, originally published in The Lancet, found that many class A drugs are in fact less harmful than alcohol. This raises further questions over the coherence of current drugs laws.
In the face of a rising tide of dissatisfaction with the intellectual rationale for the current drugs laws, the coalition should seize the opportunity to establish a genuinely science-based approach to drugs policy.

i really hope this pulls through! i think all of us in the UK are gonna see a big difference in cannabis in the next few years. fingers crossed!

hope you find this an intresting read
peace guys:joint:
 

Zootime

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I think most of us would celebrate if cannabis in the UK was legalized or less stricter laws were implemented. Their is a HUGE amount of people of all ages in the UK who regularly use cannabis, whether it be for personal or medical use. You could even compare the UK to Holland in some respect in terms of the percentage of the population who use this herb, we have one of the biggest amount of users in Europe, and it being illegal here hasn't affected that. I don't expect anything different to change in the laws now conservatives are in power it seem's both party's are being pulled by the same strings, but if something does change it will be one of the smartest things they have done in quite some time.
 

mistaphuck

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didn't you guys also have a problem with people spraying ground up glass onto bunk weed to make it look better or something like that?
 

mlore

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I think most of us would celebrate if cannabis in the UK was legalized or less stricter laws were implemented. Their is a HUGE amount of people of all ages in the UK who regularly use cannabis, whether it be for personal or medical use. You could even compare the UK to Holland in some respect in terms of the percentage of the population who use this herb, we have one of the biggest amount of users in Europe, and it being illegal here hasn't affected that. I don't expect anything different to change in the laws now conservatives are in power it seem's both party's are being pulled by the same strings, but if something does change it will be one of the smartest things they have done in quite some time.
i totally understand and agree what your saying about the conservatives. but lately i have been reading up alot of information about cannabis in the UK. latley it has been mentioned in the newspapers alot more. and not in a negative way. there has been alot of talk about liscences for cannabis. we will just have to wait and see what happens. i would love to see a change. and i really hope there is.

did you go on yourfreedom.hmg.gov.uk ?
cannabis was the number one most talkd about thing on that site. its like a forum that the liberal dems put up. for the public to write in what laws they want changed. i have wrote on there multiple times about cannabis use. and so have alot of other people. the main conversation on the site! i think it is closed now, because they are looking through all the things we have posted in. you can still look at all the comments and posts. and i think it will be up and running again soon. i really recommend you write something too. or atleast check it out if you havent. every little bit helps.

peace
 

mlore

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didn't you guys also have a problem with people spraying ground up glass onto bunk weed to make it look better or something like that?
yea dude. alot is still going around now! lucky i havent got that shit in a while. but i know itsstill around as my mate got some the other week. i told him to throw it away. dont no what he done with it though. noing him, he proberly smoked it!

dude, they even put it on nice shit man! its such a waste of decent weed! if they want that much wait just sell it to me fucking wet! lol. id rather wet than fucking glass or grit!

also they have started to put some kind of adhesive on them. like glue or summin. the ash burns hard, you litrally have to pull the ash off. when you rub it on the surface it has like a black oily substance in it. disgusting man!
 

mistaphuck

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yea dude. alot is still going around now! lucky i havent got that shit in a while. but i know itsstill around as my mate got some the other week. i told him to throw it away. dont no what he done with it though. noing him, he proberly smoked it!

dude, they even put it on nice shit man! its such a waste of decent weed! if they want that much wait just sell it to me fucking wet! lol. id rather wet than fucking glass or grit!

also they have started to put some kind of adhesive on them. like glue or summin. the ash burns hard, you litrally have to pull the ash off. when you rub it on the surface it has like a black oily substance in it. disgusting man!
thats hella fucked up, man people would get jumped for slinging fucked up sacks like that up here, hope you guys do get it legal!
 

mlore

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thats hella fucked up, man people would get jumped for slinging fucked up sacks like that up here, hope you guys do get it legal!
apparently, from what ive herd. the stuff that has grit in it and glass is mainly coming in from the netherlands. being shipped over. but that was at the very beggining. i bet all sorts of people are doin it now for weight.
thats why it is always better to grow your own. yes, you may get caught and get a little fine if your not smart enough. but atleast you wont get harmed or worse die.
all this just for some herb!
 

Zootime

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I have noticed that their also seem's to be spraying of some kind of crystallize powdery substance on some weed, it doesn't look like glass but seam's to be something else to add weight its just annoying cos it makes the bud really sticky.

Anyway i really hope the law is changed here, its not nice knowing you could be arrested for growing/smoking a herb... It does seem like 80% of our people are for it being legalized though, their are just a few parents and upper class biggots that don't know their ass from there elbow who probably use cocaine on a regular basis that want to keep it illegal.

The Law on cannabis needs to change in the UK!
 

MasterHemp

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yea dude. alot is still going around now! lucky i havent got that shit in a while. but i know itsstill around as my mate got some the other week. i told him to throw it away. dont no what he done with it though. noing him, he proberly smoked it!

dude, they even put it on nice shit man! its such a waste of decent weed! if they want that much wait just sell it to me fucking wet! lol. id rather wet than fucking glass or grit!

also they have started to put some kind of adhesive on them. like glue or summin. the ash burns hard, you litrally have to pull the ash off. when you rub it on the surface it has like a black oily substance in it. disgusting man!
wow that's just horrible, if someone sold me weed like that i'd go straight back there and beat the shit out of him
 
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