Voting Against Prop 19 means :

[tc1]

ur saying shit right now lol wtf..and they is not u..they meaning "The Government" anyways if it doesn't affect medical patients i dont have a problem with it i guess but think all u stoners who just wanna get stoned should get a job and only smoke if u need to and stop hating on people who got cards and wanna grow as much dank as they want..and either way that oz law is BS, so u can have more then a oz but only be caught with a oz?? so how would u even pick up over a oz if u can have over an oz at your house and u weren't growing?? lol whatever

If it wasn't for all of us "stoners who just want to be stoned" ... you wouldn't even HAVE your medical marijuana. You might want to refrain from stereotyping people based on their desire to use marijuana recreationally. That's a slap in the face to the marijuana movement and the MAJORITY of people on this board. Again ... some of the people who voted YES on Prop 215 and allowed you to lawfully use your medical marijuana. I mean seriously ... you sound like someone on the governments bankroll trying to play up the whole "Lazy, jobless, and stupid stoner" stigma.

Under Prop 19 ... you're allowed to keep your harvested marijuana regardless if it's over 1 ounce. You are NOT allowed to walk around town with over an ounce. Not really hard to understand.

If you have a 215 card ... non of this applies to you. If anything, it enforces your right to USE MEDICAL MARIJUANA.

 

[tc1]

I'm sick of idiots who express uninformed opinions that will, in the long run, hurt them!

Prop 19 will do just what it says. Tax and control Cannabis.

Legalization is NOT mentioned.

Title and Summary:
Changes California Law to Legalize Marijuana and Allow It to Be Regulated and Taxed. Initiative Statute.

Allows people 21 years old or older to possess, cultivate, or transport marijuana for personal use. Permits local governments to regulate and tax commercial production and sale of marijuana to people 21 years old or older. Prohibits people from possessing marijuana on school grounds, using it in public, smoking it while minors are present, or providing it to anyone under 21 years old. Maintains current prohibitions against driving while impaired. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local governments: Savings of up to several tens of millions of dollars annually to state and local governments on the costs of incarcerating and supervising certain marijuana offenders. Unknown but potentially major tax, fee, and benefit assessment revenues to state and local government related to the production and sale of marijuana products.


If you are allowed to possess, cultivate, and transport marijuana .... it's LEGAL.

Section 3: Lawful Activities
Article 5 of Chapter 5 of Division 10 of the Health and Safety Code, commencing with section 11300 is added to read:
Section 11300: Personal Regulation and Controls
(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, it is lawful and shall not be a public offense under California law for any person 21 years of age or older to:
(i) Personally possess, process, share, or transport not more than one ounce of cannabis, solely for that individual’s personal consumption, and not for sale.



But HEY! Prop 19 isn't about legalization. All it does is allow you to LAWFULLY possess, cultivate, and transport marijuana.

You can't reason with the unreasonable ....

 

[veggiegardener]

That is a "summary" and isn't backed up in the text of the proposition.

You keep repeating the same lies, hoping the stupid will believe without looking for themselves.

 

[tc1]

That is a "summary" and isn't backed up in the text of the proposition.

You keep repeating the same lies, hoping the stupid will believe without looking for themselves.

Section 3: Lawful Activities
Article 5 of Chapter 5 of Division 10 of the Health and Safety Code, commencing with section 11300 is added to read:
Section 11300: Personal Regulation and Controls
(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, it is lawful and shall not be a public offense under California law for any person 21 years of age or older to:
(i) Personally possess, process, share, or transport not more than one ounce of cannabis, solely for that individual’s personal consumption, and not for sale.

(ii) Cultivate, on private property by the owner, lawful occupant, or other lawful resident or guest of the private property owner or lawful occupant, cannabis plants for personal consumption only, in an area of not more than twenty-five square feet per private residence or, in the absence of any residence, the parcel. Cultivation on leased or rented property may be subject to approval from the owner of the property. Provided that, nothing in this section shall permit unlawful or unlicensed cultivation of cannabis on any public lands.

(iii) Possess on the premises where grown the living and harvested plants and results of any harvest and processing of plants lawfully cultivated pursuant to section 11300(a)(ii), for personal consumption.

(iv) Possess objects, items, tools, equipment, products and materials associated with activities permitted under this subsection.



Sure sounds like it's backed up in the text of Prop 19 to me. Unless you're dumb enough to think something that is LAWFUL is illegal.

 

[Cali.Grown>408]

If it wasn't for all of us "stoners who just want to be stoned" ... you wouldn't even HAVE your medical marijuana. You might want to refrain from stereotyping people based on their desire to use marijuana recreationally. That's a slap in the face to the marijuana movement and the MAJORITY of people on this board. Again ... some of the people who voted YES on Prop 215 and allowed you to lawfully use your medical marijuana. I mean seriously ... you sound like someone on the governments bankroll trying to play up the whole "Lazy, jobless, and stupid stoner" stigma.

Under Prop 19 ... you're allowed to keep your harvested marijuana regardless if it's over 1 ounce. You are NOT allowed to walk around town with over an ounce. Not really hard to understand.

If you have a 215 card ... non of this applies to you. If anything, it enforces your right to USE MEDICAL MARIJUANA.

lol are u fu%&^n retarded?? so u said we can have more then a oz but only walk around with a oz so how the FUK are u suppose to get it?? IF U CANT GROW IT?? and u dont even make sense..u would be the one on the governments bankroll trying to get this shit passed..and dont include US together in the same sentence cuz U personally haven't done a damn thing as far as im concerned but spread false information..and if it werent for us medical users u prop 19 stoners wouldnt even be having this debate

 

[tc1]

lol are u fu%&^n retarded?? so u said we can have more then a oz but only walk around with a oz so how the FUK are u suppose to get it?? IF U CANT GROW IT?? and u dont even make sense..u would be the one on the governments bankroll trying to get this shit passed..and dont include US together in the same sentence cuz U personally haven't done a damn thing as far as im concerned but spread false information..and if it werent for us medical users u prop 19 stoners wouldnt even be having this debate

YOU CAN GROW MARIJUANA UNDER PROP 19.

Good grief.

 

[Cali.Grown>408]

no im sayin like if you Couldn't..like if you had no room to grow where u live..and u wanted more then a oz cuz u said its legal to have more then a oz but u cant ride around with more then a oz. It sounds like conflicting laws and bullshit

 

[tc1]

no im sayin like if you Couldn't..like if you had no room to grow where u live..and u wanted more then a oz cuz u said its legal to have more then a oz but u cant ride around with more then a oz. It sounds like conflicting laws and bullshit

In such a case ... you'd have to buy an ounce ... go home and go back to buy another ounce.

Under Prop 19, you're only allowed to sell and buy 1 ounce at a time.

 

[veggiegardener]

In such a case ... you'd have to buy an ounce ... go home and go back to buy another ounce.

Under Prop 19, you're only allowed to sell and buy 1 ounce at a time.

So you are encouraging people to keep illegal amounts in their homes?

The law clearly states that you MAY NOT possess more than one ounce.

So, you grow 3.25 pounds, and run 3.1875 pounds down the garbage disposal, one ounce at a time?

LOL!

This is too easy....

 

[tc1]

So you are encouraging people to keep illegal amounts in their homes?

The law clearly states that you MAY NOT possess more than one ounce.

So, you grow 3.25 pounds, and run 3.1875 pounds down the garbage disposal, one ounce at a time?

LOL!

This is too easy....

Where in the law does it state you're not allowed to store more than 1 ounce of harvested marijuana in your home? I don't see any weight limits.

(iii) Possess on the premises where grown the living and harvested plants and results of any harvest and processing of plants lawfully cultivated pursuant to section 11300(a)(ii), for personal consumption.

Prop 19 allows you to store as much harvested marijuana in YOUR HOME as you want.

Better yet ... Prop 19 keeps law enforcement out of your home for marijuana-related activities. PERIOD.


Too easy? Yeah ... ignoring the facts as they are written and making ignorant comments tends to be pretty easy.

 

[fdd2blk]

Where in the law does it state you're not allowed to store more than 1 ounce of harvested marijuana in your home? I don't see any weight limits.

(iii) Possess on the premises where grown the living and harvested plants and results of any harvest and processing of plants lawfully cultivated pursuant to section 11300(a)(ii), for personal consumption.

Prop 19 allows you to store as much harvested marijuana in YOUR HOME as you want.

Better yet ... Prop 19 keeps law enforcement out of your home for marijuana-related activities. PERIOD.


Too easy? Yeah ... ignoring the facts as they are written and making ignorant comments tends to be pretty easy.

it clearly says "where grown". what if you don't grow?

and by it being "regulated" it gives them EVERY right to come in and check your grow. otherwise there would be NO LIMITS.

 

[veggiegardener]

Where in the law does it state you're not allowed to store more than 1 ounce of harvested marijuana in your home? I don't see any weight limits.

(iii) Possess on the premises where grown the living and harvested plants and results of any harvest and processing of plants lawfully cultivated pursuant to section 11300(a)(ii), for personal consumption.

Prop 19 allows you to store as much harvested marijuana in YOUR HOME as you want.

Better yet ... Prop 19 keeps law enforcement out of your home for marijuana-related activities. PERIOD.


Too easy? Yeah ... ignoring the facts as they are written and making ignorant comments tends to be pretty easy.

You put it in bold. Put yourself in a LEO's shoes who comes to your home and finds 10 pounds. Prove that you grew it.

"(i) Personally possess, process, share, or transport not more than one ounce of cannabis, solely for that individual’s personal consumption, and not for sale."

See "possess" ?

 

[tc1]

it clearly says "where grown". what if you don't grow?

and by it being "regulated" it gives them EVERY right to come in and check your grow. otherwise there would be NO LIMITS.

"The reason I have all this marijuana officer is because I just got done with a grow" See... was that hard? And no, the cops don't have any right to enter your home just because your smoking marijuana and they can see it through the window.

Section 11303: Seizure
(a) Notwithstanding sections 11470 and 11479 of the Health and Safety Code or any other provision of law, no state or local law enforcement agency or official shall attempt to, threaten to, or in fact seize or destroy any cannabis plant, cannabis seeds or cannabis that is lawfully cultivated, processed, transported, possessed, possessed for sale, sold or used in compliance with this Act or any local government ordinance, law or regulation adopted pursuant to this Act.
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So unless you're dumb enough to tell a cop you're breaking the law .... They have NO REASONABLE SUSPICION ... NO JUST CAUSE. They can't enter your home PERIOD.

 

[veggiegardener]

So again, you are suggesting we break the law, but just keep it quiet?

Just like the good old days, before Prop 215.

Been there, done that, and don't want to go back.

Who is paying you to do this?

 

[Cali.Grown>408]

Where in the law does it state you're not allowed to store more than 1 ounce of harvested marijuana in your home? I don't see any weight limits.

i do for prop 19 ONE Oz..where does it say u can have more but just cant carry more then a oz?? lol bullshit

 

[tc1]

You put it in bold. Put yourself in a LEO's shoes who comes to your home and finds 10 pounds. Prove that you grew it.

"(i) Personally possess, process, share, or transport not more than one ounce of cannabis, solely for that individual’s personal consumption, and not for sale."

See "possess" ?

(b) living and harvested cannabis plants shall be assessed by square footage, not by weight in determining the amounts set forth in section 11300(a);



Did YOU even read Prop 19?

 

[tc1]

So again, you are suggesting we break the law, but just keep it quiet?

Just like the good old days, before Prop 215.

Been there, done that, and don't want to go back.

Who is paying you to do this?

My suggestion would be to grow marijuana is you wish to possess more than 1 ounce at a time if you want to obey the law.

If not ... throw some soil in a pot and you'll beable to store as much maryjane as you want.

 

[veggiegardener]

i do for prop 19 ONE Oz..where does it say u can have more but just cant carry more then a oz?? lol bullshit

That's the point. People like tc1 are showing up, brand new members on many sites and post about nothing but Prop 19, defending it by repeating "legal" without backing it up or addressing other's concerns.

Very much like those who voted for George W. Bush, twice.

Mindless drones, or paid help.

Which is it?

 

[fdd2blk]

"The reason I have all this marijuana officer is because I just got done with a grow" See... was that hard? And no, the cops don't have any right to enter your home just because your smoking marijuana and they can see it through the window.

Section 11303: Seizure
(a) Notwithstanding sections 11470 and 11479 of the Health and Safety Code or any other provision of law, no state or local law enforcement agency or official shall attempt to, threaten to, or in fact seize or destroy any cannabis plant, cannabis seeds or cannabis that is lawfully cultivated, processed, transported, possessed, possessed for sale, sold or used in compliance with this Act or any local government ordinance, law or regulation adopted pursuant to this Act.
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So unless you're dumb enough to tell a cop you're breaking the law .... They have NO REASONABLE SUSPICION ... NO JUST CAUSE. They can't enter your home PERIOD.

so you are asking me to lie about my marijuana use? isn't that what we already do? reasonable suspicion is the fact that you have pot period. they suspect you have TOO much or that your grow room is TOO big. or maybe a child is present. prop 19 gives them all kinds of reasons to enter your home. especially when you lie and thumb your nose at them.

 

[tc1]

i do for prop 19 ONE Oz..where does it say u can have more but just cant carry more then a oz?? lol bullshit

Right here ...

(b) living and harvested cannabis plants shall be assessed by square footage, not by weight in determining the amounts set forth in section 11300(a);