sorry Nat...I certainly do not mean to be disrepectful of your observations and experience. I am glad that you have convinced yourself that seeing a whorled leaf repeat itself in a successive generation confirms that the gene for triploidy has been passed. I guess I am not at that same level of certainty. walk on! its all good.
No offense was taken mate once again text messages suck for conveying tone.
My point was just that many things are unknown about cannabis especially on the side of evolution and mutations and that many scientists have either speculated or only theorized about the whys and hows of this plant.
Even wikipedia states that much is still unknown about cannabis and its evolution and reproduction etc.
Take the original cheese for example,highly revered and kept secret and only available in clone form,for the real deal anyway.
Its also not a case of convincing myself that it is a triploid instead of being a whorled phyllotaxis or phyllotaxy it is a case of seeing a uniformed pattern through breeding into other strains that always stays the same.
Most whorled plants display all kinds of weirdness and oddities that change from one generation to the next i.e. whorling will produce random factors and different kinds of whorled patterns of leaf growth throughout further generations not just triploid.
I think you'll find that davinci said that plants do evolve to do this kind of thing to absorb more light and water.
What i am convinced of is that i can see uniformity from generation to generation.
If i am wrong time will tell in these further breedings and i will admit to it and post my findings with honesty.
I am not so proud as to not apologize when i am wrong or pretend that i was right when i am wrong.
You can rest assured that i will only post the truth as i see it and to the best of my knowledge and i am always open to debate on all of these matters.
We can never assume anything about cannabis and the fact that we have seriously bred this plant in all kinds of ways and shapes that is very unnatural,not to mention strains from all around the world that would have never been interbred,who knows what will come out.
I doubt that even god can know that.
I also notice that a guy sells his whorled/triploid plant seeds online for 20,000 dollars for 10 seeds.
You can rest assured that if i ever get to sell my seeds mine will be 1 pound each same as they were always going to be and the same as i paid for them when i first bought them.
I am not willing to accept that all triploids are non reproductive as all of their tests were done with chemically induced normal to triploid solutions and whorled plants and none of the circumstances or plants were natural triploids or even natural whorled plants.
Anyways as i said before you can rely on me to tell the truth about how they develop and study the pictures yourself to see how it develops.
If the triploid effect starts to change into a single stem as the plant matures i will concede that it is whorled as whorled plants always end up losing the three leaf patterns and returning to a single stem.
The male that i had did not revert to a single stem and i think that this new baby will also not revert to a single stem
