Should some leafage be pruned to let light penetrate canopy

[dlively11]

Guy closed the poll lol oh well.

 

[odlaw]

Guy closed the poll lol oh well.

it was up for a week

 

[dlively11]

it was up for a week

Should give a poll a lot longer then that to get any real input on it.

 

[Uncle Ben]

Should give a poll a lot longer then that to get any real input on it.

Dats right. Cornell University and Texas A&M didn't have a chance!

 

[odlaw]

Should give a poll a lot longer then that to get any real input on it.[/QUOTE

1. when i posted this i wasnt sure if it would cause arguments so i didnt want it open to long and well i was right on that one i can see in previous posts that some peeps here either dont like new peeps trying to get answers on things they not sure about and whine or leave smart remarks when i thought that was what this site was for and also peeps arguin becuase they have diff opinions on the subject why cant peeps just leave constructive posts and agree to disagree

2. the other reason i only had it open for a week is cause the grow aint gunna wait for me and the longer i left it the more work i had if i decided to prune

 

[Uncle Ben]

Should give a poll a lot longer then that to get any real input on it.[/QUOTE

1. when i posted this i wasnt sure if it would cause arguments so i didnt want it open to long and well i was right on that one i can see in previous posts that some peeps here either dont like new peeps trying to get answers on things they not sure about and whine or leave smart remarks when i thought that was what this site was for and also peeps arguin becuase they have diff opinions on the subject why cant peeps just leave constructive posts and agree to disagree

2. the other reason i only had it open for a week is cause the grow aint gunna wait for me and the longer i left it the more work i had if i decided to prune

It's a courtesy to others to do a search first on the topic. Right now, I can link you to about 3 or so recent threads started on this plant butchering topic, and then there is the old Lollipop thread that went on forever. Do a search.

Also, just because it is popular doesn't give it any crediblity, especially when it comes to cannabis forums. If I want someone's opinion regarding cultural info, botany, a cannabis forum is the last place I'd look for answers. You want excellent solid info on plant culture, then you consult books like Mel Franks MJ Insiders Growers Guide first released in 1982.

Good luck,
UB

 

[dlively11]

Dats right. Cornell University and Texas A&M didn't have a chance!

You really are a tool UB and not a very clever one at that. Hey whatever makes you feel better .....

 

[dlively11]

It's a courtesy to others to do a search first on the topic. Right now, I can link you to about 3 or so recent threads started on this plant butchering topic, and then there is the old Lollipop thread that went on forever. Do a search.

Also, just because it is popular doesn't give it any crediblity, especially when it comes to cannabis forums. If I want someone's opinion regarding cultural info, botany, a cannabis forum is the last place I'd look for answers. You want excellent solid info on plant culture, then you consult books like Mel Franks MJ Insiders Growers Guide first released in 1982.

Good luck,
UB

He's right, don't look for modern day grows and techniques , instead pick up a book from the early 80s ... everything there was to learn about growing MJ was learned by the early 80s just ask UB ..... facepalm

 

[Uncle Ben]

You really are a tool UB and not a very clever one at that. Hey whatever makes you feel better .....

Science makes me feel better. Hey, don't get mad at me cause the poll didn't go your way, and, I didn't even vote LOL.

You'll get over it. A good book like R.C. Clark's MJ Botany or Mel Franks stuff might help with the confusion, as well as some real world experience.

UB
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[dlively11]

Science makes me feel better. Hey, don't get mad at me cause the poll didn't go your way, and, I didn't even vote LOL.

You'll get over it. A good book like R.C. Clark's MJ Botany or Mel Franks stuff might help with the confusion, as well as some real world experience.

UB
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Yeah I am sure that good old science makes you sleep better at night while you are yielding HALF what myself and others are capable of. I am sure you think everyone is just making up their yields and photo shopping pictures to convince you ... lol. Too bad their aren't books on how science isn't as black and white when it comes to growing as you think. Keep telling yourself whatever you like to fell better about yourself. All I have to do is look at my own results to feel just fine. I love seeing your avatar and how I grow about 8 buds that size in the same amount of space chopping leaves and all....

 

[FropHead]

No way to prove you are a shitty grower like spending all your time on the internet shit-talking another grower. How about you at least make it interesting for us and post these infamous pictures for all to see? How about some fucking evidence? Anything? Ya, I'm the best fucking grower on the planet, but I don't believe in digital cameras...

And ya, you can't throw a rock in this forum without hitting a topic on this shit. That said, it's always nice to reformulate the question to your specific needs and get some fresh info without having to wade through 50 pages of spam in an old thread to get one iota of good, solid advice.

 

[ElectricPineapple]

dively, just give it a rest. do what is best for your garden. pruning leaves, takes energy away from the plant, that is used to make bud. that is what i believe and what is true. read some botany. but you like to prune, so prune. UB goes by botany, as do i. quit attacking, and the bikering between you will stop, unless your just trolling for it.

 

[ElectricPineapple]

and science is the reason you live so comfortably today, and not out in the woods trying not to get eaten by predators. dont bash science just because you arent cognitive enough to understand it.

 

[Brick Top]

He's right, don't look for modern day grows and techniques , instead pick up a book from the early 80s ... everything there was to learn about growing MJ was learned by the early 80s just ask UB ..... facepalm

Botanical facts are not disproved by fads that uneducated growers like to think are better ways of doing things.

85% of light passes through leaves to strike the lower portions of plants. The chlorophyll in leaves reflect green light rays. The human eye is most sensitive to green light so to the human eye the lower portions of plants appear to not be receiving much light since there is little green light for the human eye to see, but plants are not the human eye and the remaining light that the human eye does not see does exist and it is used by the lower portions of plants.

If someone has plants that are not receiving adequate light to the lower portions of their plants the problem is not too many leaves on the upper portions of their plants. Their problem is inadequate lighting and the solution to inadequate lighting is not removing leaves. The solution to inadequate lighting is upgrading your lighting.

 

[Grumpy Old Dreamer]

Botanical facts are not disproved by fads that uneducated growers like to think are better ways of doing things.

85% of light passes through leaves to strike the lower portions of plants. The chlorophyll in leaves reflect green light rays. The human eye is most sensitive to green light so to the human eye the lower portions of plants appear to not be receiving much light since there is little green light for the human eye to see, but plants are not the human eye and the remaining light that the human eye does not see does exist and it is used by the lower portions of plants.

If someone has plants that are not receiving adequate light to the lower portions of their plants the problem is not too many leaves on the upper portions of their plants. Their problem is inadequate lighting and the solution to inadequate lighting is not removing leaves. The solution to inadequate lighting is upgrading your lighting.

Well said ... +rep for taking the time

 

[ElectricPineapple]

well said brick, but you shouldnt give these "know it alls" cough dively cough, good info like that. make them pick up a book, or do a search on how plants work. once they learn that, they will quickly understand that lollipop-ping is DUMB.

 

[dlively11]

well said brick, but you shouldnt give these "know it alls" cough dively cough, good info like that. make them pick up a book, or do a search on how plants work. once they learn that, they will quickly understand that lollipop-ping is DUMB.

Pretty funny stuff. You obviously dont believe in proof is in the putting. You take one scientific botanical fact and assume it applies to every growing scenario and it simply doesn't. Doing 4 plants in every square foot doesnt allow you to keep all your leaves. I have tried it many times both ways and yields get cut in half or less when you dont cut the leaves off in THIS style of grow. It amazes me how so many hard core believers in science dismiss results like so many get that grow this way. Even more amazing is the people who refute these results dont have results themselves anywhere near as good as the leaf choppers lol ...... What does that tell you ?? I think most people reading these types of threads are educated enough to know the answer to this. I posted my results and lots of pictures you guys have nothing that holds a candle to this. Enjoy your sub par yields and all those leaves guys =)

 

[ElectricPineapple]

nah, i will stick to what i know is right, SCIENCE.

 

[noober doober]

Pretty funny stuff. You obviously dont believe in proof is in the putting. You take one scientific botanical fact and assume it applies to every growing scenario and it simply doesn't. Doing 4 plants in every square foot doesnt allow you to keep all your leaves. I have tried it many times both ways and yields get cut in half or less when you dont cut the leaves off in THIS style of grow. It amazes me how so many hard core believers in science dismiss results like so many get that grow this way. Even more amazing is the people who refute these results dont have results themselves anywhere near as good as the leaf choppers lol ...... What does that tell you ?? I think most people reading these types of threads are educated enough to know the answer to this. I posted my results and lots of pictures you guys have nothing that holds a candle to this. Enjoy your sub par yields and all those leaves guys =)

I would like to see your pics! post em up! fyi, it's pudding not "putting"

 

[sk'mo]

Let's compromise.

dlively, you cut every single leaf off of the plant, and I mean every single one. Leave nothing but a stick.

Uncle Ben, you can tape them all back on, but in different spots. Don't be afraid to get creative, either... I want to see some topiaries!

Or, you two could just agree to disagree.

Option three is for you both to do a side-by-side comparison and post results.

Regardless, you both ought to stop arguing.