Leaves on plant when from 9 finger leaves to 7,5,3finger leaves? Need Help

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ShadowHawk

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My plant has been in flowering for about 30 days and for some reason they when from producing 9 finger leaves to 7 then to 5 then to three finger leaves. I have no idea what the problem is. I need some expert advice on what the problem is, what caused it, and how to fix it. Please help
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billybob88

billybob88

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Dont worry bro. if the plant is happy its cool. I have one of my blueberries that is doing that. puttin out alot of freak 3 leaf things. buts its cool bro. its just the pheno. if your plant is healthy, you have nothin to worry about.
 
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miggzeh

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I could be wrong but from what I gather the more light a plant needs the more fingers it produces, in flowering leaves tend to yellow and die off so taking this into consideration maybe its a combo of not needing all the light you are giving it and the natural flowering process.

have a read thru the growfaq too.
 
billybob88

billybob88

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miggzeh said:
I could be wrong but from what I gather the more light a plant needs the more fingers it produces, in flowering leaves tend to yellow and die off so taking this into consideration maybe its a combo of not needing all the light you are giving it and the natural flowering process.

have a read thru the growfaq too.
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Leaves only tend to yellow and die nearing the last 2 weeks of its flowering cycle. hes just past week4 so yeah. You cant give a plant to much light. you can create too much heat from the lights and that can be harmful, but there is no such thing as too much light. I think its just a phenotype. but what do i know.
 
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unity

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I do not agree with billybob on this, lightbleaching is caused by to much light intensity not heat stress. Picture your fan leafs as solar panels, they do have a limit on what they can process, when we exceed that we start to cause damage to the leaf.

As to the lesser leafs, I think the above poster is correct, they will produce less 'solar panels' depending on need.

I would go with what billybob said in his firs post, if the plant looks happy, all is ok.

Good luck mate!
Unity
 
billybob88

billybob88

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so what, one of my blueberries is producing sets of 3's ive seen many blueberries do this. too much light? shut off one of my 600s? i think not. i have 5500 lumens per sq foot. the sun produces 10,000 lumens per sq foot. i dont see any lightbleaching on plants outside.
 
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unity

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The sun doesn't produce 100000 lumens on the same spot all day, it moves across the canopy ;)
 
billybob88

billybob88

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i honestly dont think u can have too much light. ive never heard of this lightbleaching thing you speak of. and the sun doesnt produce 100,000 lumens per sq foot. its 10,000. If to much light was a problem, why would they make 1000 watt hps's and why would people use them in 5x5 area to achieve 7200 lumens per sq foot and not have one "lightbleaching" problem. i mean it just doesnt. how long have u been growing unity.
 
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unity

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I know the sun doesn't produce 100000 lumens, typo! It's my first grow, I'm a noob;)
But I can read and hold a conversation. So between my Hydro shop owner (10years of experience) Earl and others that I have to come to respect I posted what they have told me. I use a 600 hps have no signs of heat stress, but do have some light bleaching at the top of my canopy. From what I'm told, there can be too much light intensity if the exposure is constant, or just think of a seedling, you throw a 1000hps over it and bam you got a dead seedling (and that's not heat related)

Maybe I'm wrong, but then I wouldn't be the only one! I won't know for sure until I get some more years of growing under my belt, lol. In the end I do not mean to start a pissing contest mate!!! Only trying to share what I learn when it makes sense to me ;)
 
billybob88

billybob88

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oh i hear u dood. i have 8 years of experience. of course u dont put a seedling under a 1000. actually u could if the 1000 is at a far enough distance. im talking about full fledged plants not seedlings. ive never seen any light bleaching with my plants under 1450 watts, only insane growth. and i keep my lights about 1 foot from the canopy.
 
smoketheherb

smoketheherb

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ShadowHawk said:
My plant has been in flowering for about 30 days and for some reason they when from producing 9 finger leaves to 7 then to 5 then to three finger leaves. I have no idea what the problem is. I need some expert advice on what the problem is, what caused it, and how to fix it. Please help​
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because its buding they do that sometimes
 
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ShadowHawk

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Thanks alot you guys you've been alot of help. but it is producing very little bud i mean very little. I think it just has shitty genetics but oh well i can always grow more! Also its producing very, very little resin. Im some what considering just cutting it and get what little bud is on there. The plant's seed came from bagseeds. So its not like i would be throwing away kind bud but i think i'll sleep on that subject lol. But the advice was greatly appreciated. I'm going to go smoke a few bowls and ponder for awhile :). Peace
 
billybob88

billybob88

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Dude keep it. your only on day 30. What lights are you using? your only halfway there. week 4-6 is CRUCIAL.
 
W33D

W33D

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Yay, botanically cannabis' leaf morphology reverses during the reporoductive phase. That is the plant starts off with 1 leaf, then 3, then 5, 7, and in some varieties 9 11 and even 13 leaf blades per leaf. Then it reverses, 7 5 3. Thats why the plant takes up a "christmas tree" shape if un-pruned or un-trained. And leaf bleaching can happen, usually when the source of light changes and is too powerful than what is it used too. Like starting a plant under a cheap CFL for a week or two then placing it outside directly under the sun without being hardened off.
 
Lacy

Lacy

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Yep!

And this is what is suppose to happen. You have them in flower cycle. They sets can go up to 9 and then will go back down as they start to flower.
perfectly normal.:mrgreen::blsmoke::peace:
unity said:
I do not agree with billybob on this, lightbleaching is caused by to much light intensity not heat stress. Picture your fan leafs as solar panels, they do have a limit on what they can process, when we exceed that we start to cause damage to the leaf.

As to the lesser leafs, I think the above poster is correct, they will produce less 'solar panels' depending on need.

I would go with what billybob said in his firs post, if the plant looks happy, all is ok.

Good luck mate!
Unity
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Lacy

Lacy

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Exactly! thank you:)

I was gonna say 9 or more but I have never counted more than 9 before ;)
W33D said:
Yay, botanically cannabis' leaf morphology reverses during the reporoductive phase. That is the plant starts off with 1 leaf, then 3, then 5, 7, and in some varieties 9 11 and even 13 leaf blades per leaf. Then it reverses, 7 5 3. Thats why the plant takes up a "christmas tree" shape if un-pruned or un-trained. And leaf bleaching can happen, usually when the source of light changes and is too powerful than what is it used too. Like starting a plant under a cheap CFL for a week or two then placing it outside directly under the sun without being hardened off.
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