Maybe John Kennedy's driver William Greer shot him with an air pistol

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fabfun

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yes please leave all the post u made on this site is on this thread and you havent proved shit except u are crazy as fuck and need to be in a mental institution
you can not force anyone here to believe this shit just by continuing to bombard us with your delusions
i know who doc is and he aint who u say but what i want to know is who the fuck are u
u come on to a cannabis site but post nothing related to cannabis except for post that make us think u have some mind blowing smoke
u must because your are so out there we cant even reach you with logic
 

7forever

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yes please leave all the post u made on this site is on this thread and you havent proved shit except u are crazy as fuck and need to be in a mental institution
you can not force anyone here to believe this shit just by continuing to bombard us with your delusions
i know who doc is and he aint who u say but what i want to know is who the fuck are u
u come on to a cannabis site but post nothing related to cannabis except for post that make us think u have some mind blowing smoke
u must because your are so out there we cant even reach you with logic
I have proved Greer's guilt beyond any doubt and you are crazy as fuck and need to be in a mental institution.:dunce: I cannot force anyone here to believe the truth but it's been posted and it can be found by anyone doing an engine search.
I posted here because I found the thread on google.:finger: If you don't like what I post simply ignore it because that is all anyone can do. The evidence against Greer is irrefutable.:-P
 

7forever

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I proved blood DOES mist.

You were proven wrong and can't accept it.

Carry on with your delusions, but please leave the internet.

You give it a bad name.
The zfilm proves the blood mist is FAKE because it forms before the shot.

You have proven you know nothing about this case and act like you have some kind of authority...you have no such thing and have posted only nonsense.:dunce:

Carry on with your delusions, but please leave the internet.:dunce:

You give it a bad name.:-P
 

doc111

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The zfilm proves the blood mist is FAKE because it forms before the shot.

You have proven you know nothing about this case and act like you have some kind of authority...you have no such thing and have posted only nonsense.:dunce:

Carry on with your delusions, but please leave the internet.:dunce:

You give it a bad name.:-P
Hey man, I stumbled across a picture of you with some of your buddies!:dunce:



 

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undertheice

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hey they got guns too maybe they shot kennedy
i have already given you indisputable proof that the kennedy assassination was the result of a bigfoot conspiracy. anyone that disagrees with me is an idiot and blind to the obvious facts of the case.
 

doc111

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hey they got guns too maybe they shot kennedy
That is my theory too! Interesting..............:bigjoint:

i have already given you indisputable proof that the kennedy assassination was the result of a bigfoot conspiracy. anyone that disagrees with me is an idiot and blind to the obvious facts of the case.
Lee Harvey Oswald and Bigfoot are the same person! It makes total sense now!:idea:
 

undertheice

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you guys are all wrong 7forever is bigfoot
another ignorant unbeliever. 7 may very well be one as well, but there is irrefutable evidence that jim morrison was a leader of the bigfoot cause. you can clearly see a bigfoot knee poking out of a doorway on the "strange days" album cover. the photo for the "morrison hotel" album cover was even taken by a bigfoot, look closely at the window pane and you can see his reflection.

an interesting point of fact, oswald/elvis is actually the last surviving chupacabra.
 

Tyrannabudz

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so are you saying right before the the rifle bullet hit the presidents head and exploded it, that the limo driver in broad day light in a convertable being video taped and watch by crowds of people turned around and shot the president with an air pistol and no body saw him not even the presidents wife who was sitting right next to him??


let a lone the fact that this guy expected to get away with it and nobody seeing him do it?

is that a resonable story to you?
If you watch the video again, when JFK gets shot Jackie O. tries to jump out of the moving car. She attempts to climb over the trunk and off the car but is prevented from doing so by the agent running behind the car. This tells me that perhaps she did see the driver shoot him, and went into "fight or flight" mode with the latter being her obvious choice.
Purely speculation but in any other case when someone gets shot in a car and you don't have any idea from where the shot came most peoples first reaction would be to duck or get as low as possible. Not get out of the car so as to make yourself a better target for any would-be shooter. Don't know all the facts or stories on what became of Jackie O. after the incident but from what little I have gathered she was debriefed by gov't officials and lived in seclusion.
 

doc111

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If you watch the video again, when JFK gets shot Jackie O. tries to jump out of the moving car. She attempts to climb over the trunk and off the car but is prevented from doing so by the agent running behind the car. This tells me that perhaps she did see the driver shoot him, and went into "fight or flight" mode with the latter being her obvious choice.
Purely speculation but in any other case when someone gets shot in a car and you don't have any idea from where the shot came most peoples first reaction would be to duck or get as low as possible. Not get out of the car so as to make yourself a better target for any would-be shooter. Don't know all the facts or stories on what became of Jackie O. after the incident but from what little I have gathered she was debriefed by gov't officials and lived in seclusion.
I believe she was helping the agent get into the car and Jacki O didn't live in seclusion after the assassination. Hell, she remarried to one of the world's richest and most powerful men! If you were joking in your post I apologize, I just dind't pick up on the sarcasm. :bigjoint:
 

Big P

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7forever, you cant hide from the truth, why are you trying to hide and lie?

Why Cant you respond to this proof that you are complety wrong lol he even went as far as to get my last post about this deleted lol


WHY THE ZAPRUDER FILM IS AUTHENTIC HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

NOVEMBER 22, 1963 8:00 am
Abraham Zapruder arrives at the offices of Jennifer Juniors. Marilyn Sitzman and Lillian Rogers persuade him to retrieve his 8 mm. movie camera from his home.
11:30 am
Zapruder returns to his office after retrieving his camera.
12:30 pm
Zapruder films the assassination from a pedestal in Dealey Plaza.
12:45 pm
Zapruder returns to his office and locks the camera in his safe.
1:30 pm
Reporter Harry McCormick takes Secret Service Agent Forrest Sorrels to Zapruder's office. Emotionally upset, Zapruder agrees to furnish Sorrels with a copy of his film - if Sorrels will agree that the copy is only for use by the Secret Service and that it would not be shown or given to any media. Sorrels agrees.
1:45 pm
Together with Zapruder's partner, Irwin Schwartz, Sorrels, McCormick and Zapruder drive to Dallas Morning News. Since they can't process the film, they walk to WFAA-TV. Zapruder is interviewed live; Schwartz is photographed with the camera.
2:15 pm
A police car takes Sorrels, Schwartz, Zapruder and McCormick to the Kodak plant. Zapruder makes arrangements for the processing of the film. Phil Willis meets Sorrels at the Kodak plant and also agrees to furnish the Secret Service with copies of his 35 mm. slides. Sorrels gets a phone call and leaves for Dallas Police Headquarters.
3:15 pm (est.)
The processed film is shown to fifteen to eighteen people. To have copies made, Zapruder must take camera original to Jamieson Company.
4:00 pm (est.)
Zapruder has three (3) copies made by the Jamieson Company. He requests affidavit that no more copies were made.
4:30 pm (est.)
Zapruder returns to Kodak plant with the original and three (3) copies. He has the three (3) copies processed and requests affidavits from Kodak personnel that only three (3) copies were processed.

Afternoon
Richard Stolley and Tommy Thompson of LIFE fly in from Los Angeles. LIFE stringers Patsy Swank and Holland McCombs learn that Zapruder has film of the assassination. Forrest Sorrels receives two of the three first generation copies and assures Zapruder they will be used only for official purposes by the Secret Service.
Evening
Stolley sets up offices in the Adolphus Hotel and begins calling Zapruder's home at fifteen minute intervals. Zapruder, shaken by the day's events, drives aimlessly around Dallas.
9:55 pm
Secret Service Agent Max Phillips sends one of the two copies to Secret Service Chief Rowley in Washington, D.C. In an accompanying note, Phillips says that "Mr. Zapruder is in custody of the 'master' film."
11:00 pm
Stolley reaches Zapruder at home and asks to come out and view the film. Zapruder declines. They agree to meet the next morning at 9:00am at Zapruder's office.
NOVEMBER 23
8:00 am
Stolley is waiting at Zapruder's office when Zapruder arrives. The film is screened for Stolley. Stolley agrees that LIFE will pay Zapruder $50,000 in two installments for print rights to the film. Stolley leaves with the original and perhaps the remaining copy. The original is sent to Chicago where the LIFE editorial staff has assembled to prepare the new issue to be on the newsstands the following Tuesday, November 26th. During the preparation of black and white copies, the original is broken in several places by photo technicians. Splices are made.
At some time this weekend, a copy of the film is sent to New York where it is viewed by C.D. Jackson, publisher of LIFE. Jackson decides to acquire all rights to the film and so instructs Stolley.
Evening
Since copies cannot be made in Dallas, Gordon Shanklin, FBI SAIC in Dallas, is instructed to send the copy the FBI obtained from Sorrels by commercial flight to Washington, D.C. Shanklin does so, at the same time requesting that the FBI Lab make three, second-generation copies, one for Washington and two for the Dallas Field Office.
NOVEMBER 24
Zapruder may have screened the film for Forrest Sorrels and other law enforcement agents.
NOVEMBER 25
Morning
Stolley meets with Zapruder in the offices of Zapruder's lawyer. The negotiations end with LIFE purchasing world-wide rights to the film for $150,000.
During these negotiations, Dan Rather is shown the film. He neglects to make an immediate bid but elects to check with New York first. During a radio broadcast with Richard C. Hottelet and Hughes Rudd, Rather describes the film which he has "just returned from seeing." Later that day, Rather describes his viewing of the film on the CBS Evening News. Rather could only have seen this film at this time if Zapruder had retained one copy and provided Stolley with only the original the previous Saturday.
NOVEMBER 26 Morning
LIFE begins newsstand distribution of the November 29th issue. At the same time, various LIFE editors order up prints of the film for viewing in their offices. I was shown one of these in October 1966. Since control was lax, bootleg copies began to circulate.

What emerges from this chronology is a single important fact: At no time during this hectic weekend did the original of the film ever leave the custody and control of Abraham Zapruder and LIFE magazine. Two first-generation copies were provided to Forrest Sorrels of the Secret Service in the late afternoon of November 22nd . One of these copies was shipped to Washington that night. The other was turned over to the FBI and sent by commercial air to Washington the next day. But the original stayed with Zapruder until the morning of November 23rd when Dick Stolley walked out of Zapruder's office with it under his arm. That original remained under LIFE's custody and control until it was given back to Zapruder's family in the 1970s.
 

Big P

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Like I said we will keep posting this until you respond. You cannot ignore proof that you are lieing.


NOVEMBER 22, 1963 8:00 am
Abraham Zapruder arrives at the offices of Jennifer Juniors. Marilyn Sitzman and Lillian Rogers persuade him to retrieve his 8 mm. movie camera from his home.
11:30 am
Zapruder returns to his office after retrieving his camera.
12:30 pm
Zapruder films the assassination from a pedestal in Dealey Plaza.
12:45 pm
Zapruder returns to his office and locks the camera in his safe.
1:30 pm
Reporter Harry McCormick takes Secret Service Agent Forrest Sorrels to Zapruder's office. Emotionally upset, Zapruder agrees to furnish Sorrels with a copy of his film - if Sorrels will agree that the copy is only for use by the Secret Service and that it would not be shown or given to any media. Sorrels agrees.
1:45 pm
Together with Zapruder's partner, Irwin Schwartz, Sorrels, McCormick and Zapruder drive to Dallas Morning News. Since they can't process the film, they walk to WFAA-TV. Zapruder is interviewed live; Schwartz is photographed with the camera.
2:15 pm
A police car takes Sorrels, Schwartz, Zapruder and McCormick to the Kodak plant. Zapruder makes arrangements for the processing of the film. Phil Willis meets Sorrels at the Kodak plant and also agrees to furnish the Secret Service with copies of his 35 mm. slides. Sorrels gets a phone call and leaves for Dallas Police Headquarters.
3:15 pm (est.)
The processed film is shown to fifteen to eighteen people. To have copies made, Zapruder must take camera original to Jamieson Company.
4:00 pm (est.)
Zapruder has three (3) copies made by the Jamieson Company. He requests affidavit that no more copies were made.
4:30 pm (est.)
Zapruder returns to Kodak plant with the original and three (3) copies. He has the three (3) copies processed and requests affidavits from Kodak personnel that only three (3) copies were processed.

Afternoon
Richard Stolley and Tommy Thompson of LIFE fly in from Los Angeles. LIFE stringers Patsy Swank and Holland McCombs learn that Zapruder has film of the assassination. Forrest Sorrels receives two of the three first generation copies and assures Zapruder they will be used only for official purposes by the Secret Service.
Evening
Stolley sets up offices in the Adolphus Hotel and begins calling Zapruder's home at fifteen minute intervals. Zapruder, shaken by the day's events, drives aimlessly around Dallas.
9:55 pm
Secret Service Agent Max Phillips sends one of the two copies to Secret Service Chief Rowley in Washington, D.C. In an accompanying note, Phillips says that "Mr. Zapruder is in custody of the 'master' film."
11:00 pm
Stolley reaches Zapruder at home and asks to come out and view the film. Zapruder declines. They agree to meet the next morning at 9:00am at Zapruder's office.
NOVEMBER 23
8:00 am
Stolley is waiting at Zapruder's office when Zapruder arrives. The film is screened for Stolley. Stolley agrees that LIFE will pay Zapruder $50,000 in two installments for print rights to the film. Stolley leaves with the original and perhaps the remaining copy. The original is sent to Chicago where the LIFE editorial staff has assembled to prepare the new issue to be on the newsstands the following Tuesday, November 26th. During the preparation of black and white copies, the original is broken in several places by photo technicians. Splices are made.
At some time this weekend, a copy of the film is sent to New York where it is viewed by C.D. Jackson, publisher of LIFE. Jackson decides to acquire all rights to the film and so instructs Stolley.
Evening
Since copies cannot be made in Dallas, Gordon Shanklin, FBI SAIC in Dallas, is instructed to send the copy the FBI obtained from Sorrels by commercial flight to Washington, D.C. Shanklin does so, at the same time requesting that the FBI Lab make three, second-generation copies, one for Washington and two for the Dallas Field Office.
NOVEMBER 24
Zapruder may have screened the film for Forrest Sorrels and other law enforcement agents.
NOVEMBER 25
Morning
Stolley meets with Zapruder in the offices of Zapruder's lawyer. The negotiations end with LIFE purchasing world-wide rights to the film for $150,000.
During these negotiations, Dan Rather is shown the film. He neglects to make an immediate bid but elects to check with New York first. During a radio broadcast with Richard C. Hottelet and Hughes Rudd, Rather describes the film which he has "just returned from seeing." Later that day, Rather describes his viewing of the film on the CBS Evening News. Rather could only have seen this film at this time if Zapruder had retained one copy and provided Stolley with only the original the previous Saturday.
NOVEMBER 26 Morning
LIFE begins newsstand distribution of the November 29th issue. At the same time, various LIFE editors order up prints of the film for viewing in their offices. I was shown one of these in October 1966. Since control was lax, bootleg copies began to circulate.

What emerges from this chronology is a single important fact: At no time during this hectic weekend did the original of the film ever leave the custody and control of Abraham Zapruder and LIFE magazine. Two first-generation copies were provided to Forrest Sorrels of the Secret Service in the late afternoon of November 22nd . One of these copies was shipped to Washington that night. The other was turned over to the FBI and sent by commercial air to Washington the next day. But the original stayed with Zapruder until the morning of November 23rd when Dick Stolley walked out of Zapruder's office with it under his arm. That original remained under LIFE's custody and control until it was given back to Zapruder's family in the 1970s.
 
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