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[genuity]

i do not know y they call it "monstercropping",
but here is a o.k read. https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/346874-monster-cropping-increasing-yield.html

 

[wally nutter]

happy 420 eastern time

 

[whodatnation]

OK, back to the guano thing. Do you guys have to brew your guano before using it? The international house of guano variety pack is what I was looking at, looks interesting. I seem to recall reading something or other about organics and aerobics, good and bad ones and if you let your brew sit around too long it develops those bad aerobics...pardon the wording I don't recall the proper terminology.

aerobics lol if there were such a thing as bad aerobics this would be it.
[video=youtube;UTx_XT2XuEs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTx_XT2XuEs[/video]

You must be talking about anaerobic lol. That basically means without oxygen. When that happens with tea then I believe it starts to breed bad bacteria The instructions on the box says to mix the guanos with water... but Im sure in small quantities the bat guanos can be use in your soil mix but they are very hot... hit me up if you have any other questions, sorry to jet but i gotta trim.

 

[wally nutter]

aerobics lol if there were such a thing as bad aerobics this would be it.
[video=youtube;UTx_XT2XuEs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTx_XT2XuEs[/video]

You must be talking about anaerobic lol. That basically means without oxygen. When that happens with tea then I believe it starts to breed bad bacteria The instructions on the box says to mix the guanos with water... but Im sure in small quantities the bat guanos can be use in your soil mix but they are very hot... hit me up if you have any other questions, sorry to jet but i gotta trim.

lmao

heads up you got me reading. like who dat said without oxygen bad bacteria will start to breed. so for proper tea making you need and air stone running or some other method of introducing oxygen into the brew.

 

[Heads Up]

That's exactly the point I was getting at wally. For worm casting tea I used two air stones in a five gallon bucket, added molasses and let it bubble for three days, two days later it stunk to high heaven, I ended up dumping three of the five gallons. That's what I want to avoid using guano if I go that route. Every serious tea recipe I have seen they always let it brew with air stones running. And whodat, the anaerobic bacteria is what I meant, thank you. So do you brew your tea or just mix it with water and let er' rip?

 

[curious old fart]

thanks for the response 1BMM, whodat, and DST. i picked up some dynagrow bloom which is 3-12-6 and has trace elements in that, some im going to try that out this next watering....

I've been using the dyna-gro bloom and it has cleared up my micro-nutrient deficiency. What is damaged is non repairable and you might consider trimming.
Once I cleared the problem, I started alternately feeding with Jacks Classic Bloom 10-30-20. I had better bud development with the jacks than the dynagro, but the jacks does not contain all of the plant requirements and created a cal/mag issue.


cof

 

[Heads Up]

i do not know y they call it "monstercropping",
but here is a o.k read. https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/346874-monster-cropping-increasing-yield.html

I noticed you back there on that thread, did you ever try that method? If so?

 

[Heads Up]

I've been using the dyna-gro bloom and it has cleared up my micro-nutrient deficiency. What is damaged is non repairable and you might consider trimming.
Once I cleared the problem, I started alternately feeding with Jacks Classic Bloom 10-30-20. I had better bud development with the jacks than the dynagro, but the jacks does not contain all of the plant requirements and created a cal/mag issue.


cof

I've been using dynagro veg nutes, 9-3-6, I like that ratio for veg and the 10-30-20 of jacks for flower. I don't regularly add cal-mag but I do use it along with liquid karma and the last couple of grows hygrozyme, so far so good. My next sativa grow I'm going to give botanicare's pro line a go, it's supposed to be good for sativa.

 

[curious old fart]

I've been using dynagro veg nutes, 9-3-6, I like that ratio for veg and the 10-30-20 of jacks for flower. I don't regularly add cal-mag but I do use it along with liquid karma and the last couple of grows hygrozyme, so far so good. My next sativa grow I'm going to give botanicare's pro line a go, it's supposed to be good for sativa.

You're growing in soil, which has the micro-nutrients, coca doesn't.


cof

 

[wally nutter]

That's exactly the point I was getting at wally. For worm casting tea I used two air stones in a five gallon bucket, added molasses and let it bubble for three days, two days later it stunk to high heaven, I ended up dumping three of the five gallons. That's what I want to avoid using guano if I go that route. Every serious tea recipe I have seen they always let it brew with air stones running. And whodat, the anaerobic bacteria is what I meant, thank you. So do you brew your tea or just mix it with water and let er' rip?

with the guano its best to make a tea. you can use it as top dressing too but i think making a tea accelerates the process. as for the stink, that may not have meant your tea was bad.

if you just mix and rip youre not getting everything out of it. brewing with lotsa bubbles really brings out the micros in the guano

 

[genuity]

I noticed you back there on that thread, did you ever try that method? If so?

i have been doing it befor i seen that thread,i think it is good if you want a lot of clones,or want to save a strain.
it made the plant stay short and bushy,the end results was this plant.

 

[GreenThumb2k10]

That looks crazy. What was the final mass??

 

[Heads Up]

You're growing in soil, which has the micro-nutrients, coca doesn't.


cof

cof, so what is the advantage in using coco? Can you mix coco and soil?

 

[genuity]

That looks crazy. What was the final mass??

a lil over 3oz i think.
same veg/flower as the one from seed,same size pots....ect
the one from seed gave me 6+oz.

 

[Heads Up]

So I take it you don't grow with that method on a regular basis genuity? My problem is this, I just like growing and experimenting. It's probably why I have ten ideas in my head for my 'next' grow, most of which never happen. I must also confess, I love the look of a plant that is just doing it's thing growing towards that one big ol' main cola, although I don't think that is the way to get the best yield from a plant.

 

[curious old fart]

cof, so what is the advantage in using coco? Can you mix coco and soil?

Sure you can. Coca is a sterile environment with the ability to hold 5 to 8 times its weight in water and nutrients and resists decomposition better than peat and has a more acceptable ph range.
I was growing with peat and made the change to coca and my plants have never looked better.


cof

 

[genuity]

So I take it you don't grow with that method on a regular basis genuity? My problem is this, I just like growing and experimenting. It's probably why I have ten ideas in my head for my 'next' grow, most of which never happen. I must also confess, I love the look of a plant that is just doing it's thing growing towards that one big ol' main cola, although I don't think that is the way to get the best yield from a plant.

no!! i only use it when i want a lot of clones,
but i only take'em 2-3 weeks in flower,i my self like to let'em grow ol'natural,but like you said not good for the yield.

 

[Heads Up]

When you say acceptable ph range, what is that range and does it tend to drift one way or the other over time?

Genuity, if I got six ounces from a plant, I would be sure I made some major mistakes or it was just a freak of nature. I will say I am looking to try to hit that six ounce mark my next sativa grow. We all need a dream.

 

[curious old fart]

When you say acceptable ph range, what is that range and does it tend to drift one way or the other over time?

Ed Rosenthal's Marijuana Grower's Handbook page 261
5.8-6.4
I stand corrected about "sterile environment"
"...a source of potassium, as well as iron, manganse, zinc and copper..."


cof

 

[genuity]

getting this winter grow going.............
(og x sour diesel) x (91 chemdawg x mass super skunk/nl)

these are at 4 weeks veg as of this comeing monday,2 more weeks of veg ,for a full 6 weeks veg.
repotting from 1 gal pots,to 2 gal pots,these will be there home till the end.

some re-veg of grapegod


dog cola.............frosty


just to get the black-n-white photos poppin!!