The Ruiner
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Dude...the LA one is 0.05%...if the dispensaries bitch about this I would be surprised
Vote no on prop 19!
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Sure Shot
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Albany, voters decided to impose a $25 per-square-foot tax on nonprofit medical cannabis operations. Under the measure, for-profit ventures would be taxed at a rate of 2.5 percent of gross receipts.
La Puente, voters backed taxes on existing medical marijuana dispensaries at a rate of $100 per square foot of business space or 10 percent per $1,000 of gross receipts.
Oakland, voters for the second authorized specific taxes on the retail sale of medical cannabis.The new five percent tax rate is nearly three times the supplemental sales tax rate already imposed on local dispensaries.
Rancho Cordova, voters decided to impose taxes of $600 to $900 per square foot on personal medical marijuana grows. A five-foot by five-foot indoor space could be required to pay an annual local levy of $15,000.
Richmond, voters overwhelmingly approved a five percent tax on local medical marijuana.
Sacramento, voters approved a new business tax on medical marijuana dispensaries.The specific tax rate will be determined by city officials, but may be as high as four percent of businesses’ annual gross receipts.
San Jose, nearly eight out of ten voters endorsed to levy an additional ten percent tax on the area’s existing medical cannabis dispensaries.
Stockton, voters endorsed a separate 2.5 percent business tax on medical cannabis businesses.
L.A., proposes $50 in city sales taxes on every $1,000 of "cash and in-kind contributions" to dispensaries for pot. (To be voted on in March.)
veggiegardener
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I'm thinking taxes on non profit(NO cash exchanges hands) grows will be challenged, and overturned.
veggiegardener
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Having been through it, I figure either myself, or some other Caregiver/patient will make the case that seriously ill people are already being screwed by the medical industry.
It will be easy to prove such taxes would deprive them of their meds.
The last time, it never went to court.
They really don't want this reaching the State Supreme Court.
In particular, the Feds don't want this reaching the 9th Circuit. That would almost certainly leave the DEA with the choice of keeping quiet, or losing in front of the SCOTUS.
This isn't a guess, but based on experience.
Sure Shot
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The last time, there was no consensus that the majority(voters) wanted taxes.
It wasn't in the law books then, therefore it didn't make it to court.
Now, there has been a vote and the people have decided.
Judges are voted in and out as you know.
So, it stands to reason that judges are sensitive to voter demands.
In other words;
They changed the rule book.
It wasn't in the law books then, therefore it didn't make it to court.
Now, there has been a vote and the people have decided.
Judges are voted in and out as you know.
So, it stands to reason that judges are sensitive to voter demands.
In other words;
They changed the rule book.
veggiegardener
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Judges don't "run" for office.
Every election is actually a confidence vote.
Appellate courts are about upholding constitutional law.
Suggesting they would violate the Constitution in their decisions merely opens the door to further appeals.
What those judges DON'T like is being overturned by other courts.
Once the courts join the teabaggers, the United States no longer exists as an idea.
Just a tyranny.
Every election is actually a confidence vote.
Appellate courts are about upholding constitutional law.
Suggesting they would violate the Constitution in their decisions merely opens the door to further appeals.
What those judges DON'T like is being overturned by other courts.
Once the courts join the teabaggers, the United States no longer exists as an idea.
Just a tyranny.
Sure Shot
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Amen.........
The Ruiner
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Sureshot...
my math adds up right?
I mean...dispensaries are going to have to deal with this. I am sure that most of the operators will use this as an excuse to return less to the grower while charging more...
my math adds up right?
I mean...dispensaries are going to have to deal with this. I am sure that most of the operators will use this as an excuse to return less to the grower while charging more...
Sure Shot
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Without a doubt. Those taxes will trickle down to everyone.
Just wish the tax cuts Republicans always scream for worked like that.
Dan Kone
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Yep. Dispensaries don't care about taxes. They'll actually make more money. They'll use it as an excuse to both raise their prices and pay less for bud.
The Ruiner
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Not to bring up sore spots, but I got that vibe from the couple of dispensaries (that supported 19) I visited before the election. They just didnt care what the price was...it was kind of disturbing.
Dan Kone
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Yep. That's why they don't care about cities/counties fining them either.
It's fucked up because they can raise prices without anyone knowing they are doing it. They just raise the price on a few strains that come in and they don't lose any money.
If the average person going into a club had any idea how arbitrary the pricing of bud was and how often prices on a strain were arbitrary raised for issues completely unrelated to quality, they'd never go to another dispensary again. It's obscene.
Added costs to dispensaries are always passed on to the customers, vendors, or both. Dispensaries rarely take the hit.
veggiegardener
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in the long haul, I think most dispensaries will disappear unless thew government passes laws that make them an institution, like pharmacies.
Many/most patients are growing their own, or are part of a cooperative, side stepping the silly prices most dispensaries charge for third rate weed.
I've heard of several large co-ops in the Bay Area, distributing their meds for $60/oz to cover the cost of growing and distribution.
Many dispensaries grew large numbers of plants last summer to further increase their profit margins.
Anybody notice a reduction in price?
Many/most patients are growing their own, or are part of a cooperative, side stepping the silly prices most dispensaries charge for third rate weed.
I've heard of several large co-ops in the Bay Area, distributing their meds for $60/oz to cover the cost of growing and distribution.
Many dispensaries grew large numbers of plants last summer to further increase their profit margins.
Anybody notice a reduction in price?
The Ruiner
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HA! no....
veggiegardener
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We dropped by a couple of dispensaries on Tuesday, just to see the new edibles a friend is making.
While there, our friend showed some of my BB x WW to the owner.
He offered to take some, on consignment, at $100/oz.
When I asked what it would list at, on his "board", he said(after running his calculator, $15/$35/$250, gram/eighth/oz.
I think I'd rather give it away...
While there, our friend showed some of my BB x WW to the owner.
He offered to take some, on consignment, at $100/oz.
When I asked what it would list at, on his "board", he said(after running his calculator, $15/$35/$250, gram/eighth/oz.
I think I'd rather give it away...
Sure Shot
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That's right.
250% mark-up is not unheard of at all.
In fact, many business's do it.
It's good business.
40% of seller's price goes to cover loss(price of weed).
40% goes to restocking, 10% goes into the overhead, and 10% goes to profit.
The salesman ends up with $25 off a $250 oz.
But, he now has another oz. on the shelf.
Only if he liquidated his product, would he ever be able to cash out.
So, it may appear he made $150 cash of your oz. When actually, he made $25 profit!
250% mark-up is not unheard of at all.
In fact, many business's do it.
It's good business.
40% of seller's price goes to cover loss(price of weed).
40% goes to restocking, 10% goes into the overhead, and 10% goes to profit.
The salesman ends up with $25 off a $250 oz.
But, he now has another oz. on the shelf.
Only if he liquidated his product, would he ever be able to cash out.
So, it may appear he made $150 cash of your oz. When actually, he made $25 profit!
veggiegardener
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did you know macy's pays about 13 dollars for a 75 dollar pair of jeans? they buy them in bulk. open the box at 17 dollars, ad a price tag and fold them. then they walk to the front of the store and sell them for 75 dollars. funny how RETAIL SALES works, isn't it?
You'll also find that same pair of pants for $30, on sale.
Most people only shop the higher end(non Walmart) stores during sales.
I buy my clothes at Walmart.
Better $13 for a pair of Faded Glory jeans as opposed to $40+ for Levy's.
Especially when the last three pairs of Levy's tore after just a few washings.
The FG's last until the pockets wear through.
Anyway, when will dispensaries start having sales?
Once they develop a way to advertise that reaches patients, I'll bet price slashing will become the norm.
