Thanks Jfa one of mine too why I grew it! LOL I'm partial to the indies though since I really only smoke in the evenings! Can't wait few more weeks!and by the way blue dream is my faviorte strain lucky
First off, flowering plants looking real good man! Lots of people harvest at this time which is too early.
My first instinct would be underfeeding of nitrogen. I cant quiet say that for sure without knowing what you are feeding them and how often. If you arent phing the water you could have plenty of food in there but unavailable to the plant itself (restricted by improper ph). This is know as nutrient lockout. Cant say this for sure without knowing ph going in either. Coco is known to build up salts which can also throw the ph off which in return will cause lockouts. On the nitrogen topic, ive noticed if it is solely because of nitrogen the plant will appear healthy just real light green. The structure and overall look of the plant is telling me it could be something else. Let me know how much you are feeding vs the recommended feeding of the nutrient itself (and the amounts of npk and other micro nutrients)
Do not make a decision without covering all angles as you may compound the problem and only make it worse. Ive attached a ph chart showing you what happens at various phs'.
You are running coco specific nutrients right? Let me guess the big guys arent in coco? Coco needs to be treated a certain way to get good results, it should not be treated like soil- it is a soiless medium and should be treated that way. I suggest you read through this page i found.
http://integralhydro.com/cocoscience.html
This is interesting-
Signs of toxicity (high levels of NaCl in coir substrate)
- Slow/stunted growth
- Unhealthy plants
- Yellowing
- Burning
- Rusting on edges of leaves
- Rust spots on leaves
sorry man i must be getting you mixed up with another user on riu. i thought you were using miracle grow and not phing. sounds like your nutrients are fine for coco (read a description) and you are letting 3-4 oz runoff which is around 15-20 percent runoff. you may want to up that a little but it shouldnt be causing your problems as plants are fairly young yet, and you are using the drip clean. i use trinity once in a while as well...its a pretty weak solution, but i had a few samples id figure id use- im sure its a good source of macro nutrients. everything seems to be fine other than your ph meter can be off. do you have a testing solution?Thanks Aev for the info sorta missed it until today. The Blue Dream & the Bubblicious are all in coco. I use H & G Aqua Flakes A & B (Originally had them in a DWC but was having issues with res temps and possibly some root rot) I'm heading to my hydro store today but think H & G addatives aren't hydro/coco/soil specific but I will check on that here later. I looked at the Aqua Flakes vs. Coco and the ratios of N-P-K are all lower on the Aqua Flakes than the Coco formula. Back to the babies...I neglected them here over the past week or so. I was just feeding them RO water with Roots Excel full stength 1.1 mls per gal and Cal-Mag 1/2 strength which I think I put 2.5 mls per gal. I Ph'd the water and it was 5.75ish. I just mixed up nutes when I posted the previous pics and used the Aqua Flakes A&B 6.5 mls per gal which was full strength week one their feeding chart. Roots Excel 1.1 mls per gal, Cal-Mag 5mls per gal and I added some stuff called Trinity which is a micro nute at 5 mls per gal (1/2 strength) Also some Drip Clean at 0.4 mls per gal. Ph'd the water to 5.8 then feed them. I am going to give them Ph'd RO/Drip Clean mix I have for the Bubblicious and theBlue Dream tonight. I usually water them about 1 16oz cup every 3 days or so. The coco seems to be staying moist and I have checked and they all have had more root growth. There is also I would say 3-4oz of runoff each time I feed/water them. Going to read that page once I get back from the hydro store need to talk to them about my scrubber cuz it isn't doing shit and my roommate is ready to come pull my plants if I don't fix it quick!!!
Clones were rooted in the 1" cubes when I got them. I planted them a little shallow so when I would water before the coco on top would float and resettle some where else in the pot is how I got a glance that they had put out some more roots. I have since added more coco to the top of the pot so that isn't happening any more. Yes I have tester solution and it seems to be working fine. I have an PPM tester (the one I have reads up to 999 then I have multiply the # by 10x and divide by 1/2) the clones it was around 500-600 PPM after I added the PH. I got my new tent here today so I will be throwing them under a 400w MH tonight or tomorrow so hopefully I will see some new growth since I have added nutes. Funny because out of the 3 the Hero OG looked the healthiest when I got them and the Grape Ape the worst and now they have reversed.sorry man i must be getting you mixed up with another user on riu. i thought you were using miracle grow and not phing. sounds like your nutrients are fine for coco (read a description) and you are letting 3-4 oz runoff which is around 15-20 percent runoff. you may want to up that a little but it shouldnt be causing your problems as plants are fairly young yet, and you are using the drip clean. i use trinity once in a while as well...its a pretty weak solution, but i had a few samples id figure id use- im sure its a good source of macro nutrients. everything seems to be fine other than your ph meter can be off. do you have a testing solution?
how long have the clones been rooted, and when was transplant? you may be over feeding. do you have a ppm/tds reader? if you do this will be a good indication, this number is what i base my nutrient levels off of. never feeding schedules or the back of the bottle.
post some pictures we may be able to figure it out from that. I have a drip clean solution that is designed for cleaning hy
500-600 ppm is pretty high...how often are you feeding at this concentration? for plants this size i wouldnt go above 400. give regular water for a little. if everything seems to be gettin worse every day, you may try a few different methods for a learning experience. how they looking today?
So how long has it been since giving them a regular dose of food? A week shouldnt be enough to do this much damage.I think the ppm's go up about 100-200 just by adding the Ph solution so really they are at 300-500. I just watered them with this solution 2 days ago. I honestly think it was becuase all I gave them before was just RO water with Roots Excel and some 1/2 strength Cal-Mag. So I think they are lacking everything at the moment. I'm hoping they will recover here over the next few days along with putting them under the 400w should help.
Just snapped few pics they seem to be looking better greened up some, less leaf curling and looks like some new growth on the Grape Ape. Hero OG still the looks the worst of them. Got to run to the hydro store.
Hero OG
Tahoe OG
Grape Ape
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Yea two weeks without nutrients in coco may cause these deficiency. Plus who knows how much nutrients they got before then too right?I got the clones on the 11th. So I have had them for 16 days now. I didn't water or transplant them until the 12th I think. So from the 12th-24th all they have had is RO water with Roots Excel & Cal-Mag. So it was 14 days that they didn't get any nutes other than Roots Excel & Cal Mag.
On the 25th I gave them this.
House & Garden Parts A & B 6.5 mls each
Drip Clean 0.4 mls
Roots Excel 1.1 mls
Cal Mag 2.5 mls
Trinity 5 mls
Ph'd to 5.8
1 16oz cup each. 2-3oz runoff on each plant.
Man that shits lookin dank bro! Some of the best around here. Not everyone can grow bomb like this. Lookin real good...flushing now sounds good for the bubblicious. Great job and plus rep if i can.Flowering Day 51 Update
Got my new 4x4 tent in the mail today. Picked up a 1000w light the other day. Just order a 530 cfm fan today for $80. So its all coming along. I have been having a problem with my carbon scrubber so I took a trip to the hydro store to talk to them but have to wait until Monday so they can call the distributer to see what they can do. Was going to try and get the 4x4 set up tonight and get the clones under the 400w'r. Until I get this carbon filter thing figured out I don't feel like setting everything up and having move the plants around etc. so I'm going to probably just finish flowering them in 4x2 tent under the 400w.
Going to feed the Bubblicious for the last time tonight then I will start to flush for around 10 days. I got my 21mm 30x loupe in the mail today was checking out the trichs tonight with it. I have to say it sorta hard to see them clearly with this thing. I guess I thought it would be more like a microscope but it seems like all the trichs are milky they definitely didn't look clear. I really didn't see any that looked amber or darker in color.
Sorry rambling on tonight here are few pics I took putting the loupe in from of my camera.
Bubblicious
Blue Dream
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Thanks for stoppin by Hulk appreciate it. Not doin anything special with the clones lol actually was neglecting them pretty bad here about a week ago. Just got em under few CFL's. Just waiting to set up my 4x4 so I can get em under the 400w MH.Hell yea buddha plants are looking great and clones dam very tight spacing great work !!