Serious problem please help.

Medi 1

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it is a food but ya its good to get rid of it. its not life ending if not. i didnt for years and my grows where just fine. yes it helps the pH, and i dont know of anything in the foods other than organics that it will kill off. most cities dont use it anymore anyways, they use chloramines and no sitting out gets rid of that, and R/O machines only remove a bit of it. need an upgrade filter to remove more of it.
 

tatamama

New Member
Brother That Is Nute Burn. It might be a micro deficency but looks burnt! You did something wrong or you gave more than you said but that is a burn plain and simple.. Seen it on 12 different strains.. That plant will also be root bound if not already.. Good Luck....
my medical plants are 24 days old.

400 watt HPS
Have just nuted at 1/4 strength with FF grow big. Temps 73-80 humid 40-50%. Lights are on 18/6.

Plants are in FF Ocean forest soil. They were doing awesome until I nuted them, and now 1 plant my biggest and best has curling leafs and a dark purpleish color and the leaves are brittle and breaking. its slowly moving to the top.

Soil PH - 6.5
Ph Run off - 6.9
Run off PPM - 477

Please help. I flushed the plant immediately so hopefully I will see an improvement.

 

Medi 1

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root bound at 24 days old in that sieze a pot..doubt it and to see a micro deff before a macro isnt usualy going to happen either as they barly need any micro elements.
 

Tla

Member
hello,

I usually bring the humidity up by spraying some water on the floor and letting it evaporate under the big lights.
 

Kalebaiden

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Just an observation about a post near the beginning of this thread (not sure who posted it without looking)

"There's no such thing as nute burn"

Yes there is, it's caused by a rapid influx of nutrients that is too intense for the plant to handle. Easy fix is a flush of distilled water followed by another flush 5 days later (just to be safe). This won't restore your plants health but may help wash away some of the excess nutes. I don't know if this will help or hinder, my plants are different than yours but with a similar problem way back when and that's how I fixed it. I lessened the nutes by half after for a week and then slowly boosted them back to normal levels over the next little while.

I figured the plants would have hated the flushings but it was quite the opposite. Mine responded really well to flushing but this may not work for you or anyone else
 

Medi 1

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all you did was fix the pH in the medium. most dont understand nutes. nutes dont burn. lack of nutes does, so in a sence there is burn but its not the food doing it, its cause it cvant get the food. either by build up wich causes ph to driop means it cant eat it and it builds more.
and we dont flush twice in a row ever.
 

GoldenGanja13

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:dunce:
all you did was fix the pH in the medium. most dont understand nutes. nutes dont burn. lack of nutes does, so in a sence there is burn but its not the food doing it, its cause it cvant get the food. either by build up wich causes ph to driop means it cant eat it and it builds more.
and we dont flush twice in a row ever.
You are sorely mistaken on this subject. :dunce:
 

Medi 1

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ya ok...if nutes burn then why not right as we feed then. its the build up of them from sometimes over feeding that makes the pH drop and then they cant eat the foods as its out of range now. how come ive shown this nute burn and no food at all in medium then....
 

bird mcbride

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what nute burn. nutes dont burn. its a deff that does the burn. they cant uptake anymore than they need. that dosent even look like what others call nute burn either.
he even says hes at 7 ph. no offence but after sayin that a blind man could see why this is looking as it does. ive had my room down to 30% and dosent do this or up to 70%. yes it causes issues but not this one
and how do anyone know its been fixed..he wouoldnt be asking if it was. he even says he hopes so....



ok bud those ph testers kinda suk, if its all ya can afford i get it but relay try and get even a cheep digi pen. the liquid stuff cant read when we add foods to the water then a coloured solution cause when we add 2 colours togetehr we get a 3rd. so that will show wrong. they are ok in water only. be more concerned about the food and water going in for the ph. and the digi pen will read both what goes in and the run off. ive seen some on ebay or others for about 30 bucks, may not be the best but its better than those or the probes.
It is obvious that this guy(Medi 1) has never grown pot. The plain facts are is that there is to much of something in the soil and it's hurting this plant. It is very possible to kill your plants by using to much fertilizer.
 

Medi 1

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its obvious the 2 of you guys are trolls. all the 2 of you can do is follow me aorund and say im wrong in everything,. man i only work at a nute co so i dont know how its works???...ok....lol fly away birdie
 

Medi 1

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people claim it salts up and its salt that burns...realy...did you know the food is a salt right when it enetrs the mix, if not the plant cant uptake it.
 

GoldenGanja13

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Instead of crying wolf I guess the thing to do now is call TROLL.
its obvious the 2 of you guys are trolls.
people claim it salts up and its salt that burns...realy...did you know the food is a salt right when it enetrs the mix, if not the plant cant uptake it.
Here Medi let me enlighten you~ When you water with synthetic nutes, you are drenching the roots with nutrients and the roots are forced to take up the nutrients, which in turn can burn them within the hour.
 

bird mcbride

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all you did was fix the pH in the medium. most dont understand nutes. nutes dont burn. lack of nutes does, so in a sence there is burn but its not the food doing it, its cause it cvant get the food. either by build up wich causes ph to driop means it cant eat it and it builds more.
and we dont flush twice in a row ever.
In an F&D lava rock budding system you can see right away what happens when you go over on the nutes. I have a plant that has never been fertilized and it does not show any of the symptoms of the plant here in this thread. So if a tree in the woods never gets fertilized it should experience nute lockout?
 

Medi 1

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huh...makes no sence to the subject. whats a tree in the woods have to do with this.
 

GoldenGanja13

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they wont take it in if they dont need it...never heard of suberin.
The whole reason why synthetics are so high in NPK is because we must flood the roots and make them take up a minimal amount. They are forced.

what and we dont drench the nutes with organics??? just synthetic???..
With Organics I and others know that we are creating a relationship with the roots/soil which in turn keeps the roots happy and they being organic only take up what they need.
 

Medi 1

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any form of nute is only intaken with what the plant needs. has niothing to do with the form. organic is slower to be available to them as it isnt in an edible form as new so we dont usuaky burn with organics as the ph realy dont drop like it can in synthetics. it either needs to be a salt or a carbon to be eaten by a plant. sythetics are a salt, organic a carbon
 
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