Can a carbon filter keep drug dogs from smelling it?

brandon.

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Saw a Mythbusters recently where they showed that a drug dog can not only smell weed stored in a glass jar, but deterrents, such as a female dog in heat or dog whistle are no match for a well-trained dog.

Now, there are a couple things to consider:
Was there residue on the outside of the jar from when the person was handling both the weed and the jar and that's what the dog smelled?
Was the show a fake so that it would be more like a deterrent for anyone looking for a good way to hide their stash?

I don't know how an odor could possibly leak through an airtight jar, so I would guess that there was resin-laced fingerprints on the outside of the jar.

With that being said, unless you thoroughly clean the outside of your jar every time you're into it, chances are the dog's going to pick it up.

I would run a carbon scrubber + ozonator for the most odor elimination if you have that much f a concern, but most importantly, do not ever give a reason for the cops to bring a dog to your house to begin with. Don't show your grow to your friends or family, don't sell it, and always be aware of your surroundings when you're smoking. Take everything you read on the internet with a huge grain of salt. People can say "I've been using this method for years and never got caught". Well, maybe that person just got lucky or doesn't live in an area where neighbors are bothered by it. Nothing beats good common sense. With good odor control you should be able to keep the smell from neighbors or people walking past your house. If they can't smell it then they won't have anything to all the cops about.

Oh yeah, don't take ANY advice if "so I've hurd" is attached to the statement..especially when it comes to something that can land you in jail.
This should be correct. I don't believe glass is porous at all. The reason smells seep through bags and other materials is because of the pores. I always travel with my buds in a glass jar (one that seals airtight).

That's another you have to watch out for is touching bud and then touching other surfaces.
 

Viagro

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This should be correct. I don't believe glass is porous at all. The reason smells seep through bags and other materials is because of the pores. I always travel with my buds in a glass jar (one that seals airtight).
Glass is not a true solid. It is what's called a supercooled liquid, its molecules are always in flux. That's why glass in old houses is thicker at the bottom, the molecules are slowly moving downward.
 

brandon.

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Glass is not a true solid. It is what's called a supercooled liquid, its molecules are always in flux. That's why glass in old houses is thicker at the bottom, the molecules are slowly moving downward.
So does that mean odor will eventually seep from the glass?
 

JSB99

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tell your friend to buy a dog himself. if any k9 unit alerts by your friends house, the handler will think it is the other dog making his k9 alert. but he should also make sure that no smell can be detected by a human either.
Really dude?!? That's the advice you're going to give? How many people have dogs in the US? How many of those people smoke pot? Millions, that's how many. You don't think the dog trainers have taken that into consideration during the years of training that these dogs go through?

Drug dogs are trained to be entirely focused on one task. I don't imagine a drug dog that's distracted by something as common as another dog is going to be going out on patrol.

If you state things like "tell your friend to get a dog" and that person believes you then that person now has a false sense of security. And when that person is being carted off to jail, I'm sure the thought "why did I listen to that advice" will be echoing through his head.

You cannot get around drug dogs. That's the bottom line. What you can do, however, is do things to keep the cops from having a reason to bring a dog to your house. Again, common sense will do you wonders. I don't know the stats on this, but I would guess that the majority of people that get busted are caught because they get comfortable and let their guard down and ultimately draw attention to themselves.
 

Viagro

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So does that mean odor will eventually seep from the glass?
It means it is permeable to anything small enough, but I dont know if scent molecules are or not. Dogs smell nearly as good as we see. It informs their world almost equally. I don't think you can hide a scent in glass from dogs.

An interesting note: bears put bloodhounds to shame in the smelling dept. Many, many times more sensitive. Narcs would use bears, if they were smart, and had the balls. LOL
 

irieie

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Not with a competent professional.
agreed but not all cops are very competent. check out more of those barry cooper videos i learned a lot from them. the best way to evade cops IMHO is to try to anticipate how they are gonna think. i think it is easier to fool the k9's handler than the dog.
 

irieie

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You cannot get around drug dogs. That's the bottom line. What you can do, however, is do things to keep the cops from having a reason to bring a dog to your house. Again, common sense will do you wonders. I don't know the stats on this, but I would guess that the majority of people that get busted are caught because they get comfortable and let their guard down and ultimately draw attention to themselves.
wow relax bro go smoke a joint or something. its not about fooling the dog, its about fooling the handler. check out more of barry coopers videos. he was a k9 interdiction officer in texas for many years until he turned pot activist. check out what he has to say. maybe youll learn something.
 

Viagro

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agreed but not all cops are very competent. check out more of those barry cooper videos i learned a lot from them. the best way to evade cops IMHO is to try to anticipate how they are gonna think. i think it is easier to fool the k9's handler than the dog.
Yeah, but the dog does the work. And when I said competent professional, I was talking about the dog.
 

irieie

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Yeah, but the dog does the work. And when I said competent professional, I was talking about the dog.
yeah it is hard to fool a dog, thats why instead it is better to try and disrupt the communication between the handler and the dog.
 

JSB99

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Glass is not a true solid. It is what's called a supercooled liquid, its molecules are always in flux. That's why glass in old houses is thicker at the bottom, the molecules are slowly moving downward.
Okay, now this is a prime example of taking everything you read with a grin of salt. Instead of just believing this, I immediately started researching it. And yes, my research is on the internet, but I look at many sites to get a consensus on a subject.

Glass is a Solid
An Amorphous Solid?

1. Glass is an amorphous solid. Glass can flow and move over low periods of time, but it is considered a solid.

2. Actually Glass is not amorphous and it most certainly doesn't flow over long periods of time.

Many people believe this myth, but it is simply not true.
Many people use the "glass is thicker at the bottom of stained glass windows in churches' argument to say that glass does flow.
The simple reason why they are thicker at the bottom is because they were made that way for a stronger structure.
Think about all the glass vases and ornaments that the Egyptians made; they have not deformed in the slightest.


Another link:
http://www.glassnotes.com/WindowPanes.html

and another...
http://www.cmog.org/dynamic.aspx?id=294

and yet, another...
http://www.thefoa.org/tech/glass.htm

There are many more.
 

JSB99

Well-Known Member
Glass is not a true solid. It is what's called a supercooled liquid, its molecules are always in flux. That's why glass in old houses is thicker at the bottom, the molecules are slowly moving downward.
Okay, now this is a prime example of taking everything you read with a grin of salt. Instead of just believing this, I immediately started researching it. And yes, my research is on the internet, but I look at many sites to get a consensus on a subject.

Glass is a Solid
An Amorphous Solid?

1. Glass is an amorphous solid. Glass can flow and move over low periods of time, but it is considered a solid.

2. Actually Glass is not amorphous and it most certainly doesn't flow over long periods of time.

Many people believe this myth, but it is simply not true.
Many people use the "glass is thicker at the bottom of stained glass windows in churches' argument to say that glass does flow.
The simple reason why they are thicker at the bottom is because they were made that way for a stronger structure.
Think about all the glass vases and ornaments that the Egyptians made; they have not deformed in the slightest.


Another link:
http://www.glassnotes.com/WindowPanes.html

and another...
http://www.cmog.org/dynamic.aspx?id=294

and yet, another...
http://www.thefoa.org/tech/glass.htm

There are many more.
 

Viagro

Well-Known Member
Okay, now this is a prime example of taking everything you read with a grin of salt. Instead of just believing this, I immediately started researching it. And yes, my research is on the internet, but I look at many sites to get a consensus on a subject.

Glass is a Solid
An Amorphous Solid?

1. Glass is an amorphous solid. Glass can flow and move over low periods of time, but it is considered a solid.

2. Actually Glass is not amorphous and it most certainly doesn't flow over long periods of time.

Many people believe this myth, but it is simply not true.
Many people use the "glass is thicker at the bottom of stained glass windows in churches' argument to say that glass does flow.

The simple reason why they are thicker at the bottom is because they were made that way for a stronger structure.
Think about all the glass vases and ornaments that the Egyptians made; they have not deformed in the slightest.


Another link:
http://www.glassnotes.com/WindowPanes.html

and another...
http://www.cmog.org/dynamic.aspx?id=294

and yet, another...
http://www.thefoa.org/tech/glass.htm

There are many more.
I can find you references to glass as a supercooled liquid, but think what you will.

edit: It's just an argument of terminology.

There is no clear answer to the question "Is glass solid or liquid?". In terms of molecular dynamics and thermodynamics it is possible to justify various different views that it is a highly viscous liquid, an amorphous solid, or simply that glass is another state of matter that is neither liquid nor solid. The difference is semantic. In terms of its material properties we can do little better. There is no clear definition of the distinction between solids and highly viscous liquids. All such phases or states of matter are idealisations of real material properties. Nevertheless, from a more common sense point of view, glass should be considered a solid since it is rigid according to everyday experience. The use of the term "supercooled liquid" to describe glass still persists, but is considered by many to be an unfortunate misnomer that should be avoided. In any case, claims that glass panes in old windows have deformed due to glass flow have never been substantiated. Examples of Roman glassware and calculations based on measurements of glass visco-properties indicate that these claims cannot be true. The observed features are more easily explained as a result of the imperfect methods used to make glass window panes before the float glass process was invented.
 

FirsTime

Active Member
I got a few pits and sometimes they like chillin near my grow. Its creepy =-o they sniff that shit and theyre probably like HELL YEAH :)
 

JSB99

Well-Known Member
I've got a very open mind. Please send me a link or two as I would love to see some articles stating this. All I did was search for "does glass flow" and all I got was "no, this is a myth, and here's the research to back it up".

I'm not trying to butt heads with you on his. I just wanted to prove the point that you can't believe what everyone states here. You have to research it and find the truth.

But please, get me some posts to contradict what I've read so far.
 

Viagro

Well-Known Member
I've got a very open mind. Please send me a link or two as I would love to see some articles stating this. All I did was search for "does glass flow" and all I got was "no, this is a myth, and here's the research to back it up".

I'm not trying to butt heads with you on his. I just wanted to prove the point that you can't believe what everyone states here. You have to research it and find the truth.

But please, get me some posts to contradict what I've read so far.
It's a legitimate controversy. It's been argued forever. They studied it for decades at Corning, and had to guess at their conclusions. Wasn't definitive.

Just look around, there's plenty of info, some better than others.
 

JSB99

Well-Known Member
It's just an argument of terminology.
Technically, yes, it is in a state of flux, but the flow rate is so incredibly slow that any noticeable movement takes millions of years. Plus, the idea that glass is thicker at the bottom of old windows is not true in the least. Glass is thicker around the entire edge of old windows for structural integrity because the technology wan't available to make them the way they are made today.

That's probably enough discussion about this as it is way off topic. As with any debate, it's up to the audience to conjure up their own opinions :)
 

Viagro

Well-Known Member
Technically, yes, it is in a state of flux, but the flow rate is so incredibly slow that any noticeable movement takes millions of years. Plus, the idea that glass is thicker at the bottom of old windows is not true in the least. Glass is thicker around the entire edge of old windows for structural integrity because the technology wan't available to make them the way they are made today.

That's probably enough discussion about this as it is way off topic. As with any debate, it's up to the audience to conjure up their own opinions :)
It's more than that, I mean there's more to it than that, but I'm done.
 

cowboylogic

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It means it is permeable to anything small enough, but I dont know if scent molecules are or not. Dogs smell nearly as good as we see. It informs their world almost equally. I don't think you can hide a scent in glass from dogs.

An interesting note: bears put bloodhounds to shame in the smelling dept. Many, many times more sensitive. Narcs would use bears, if they were smart, and had the balls. LOL
Yep, you can was a soup can spotless. Sink it 6 plus feet deep in the ground and a bear can still detect the possibility of food below. Dont try and fool mother nature! lol
 
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