Club 600

[Heads Up]

Just Wait about three weeks before sticking them back in, you could 12/12 your little room too, once pollinated the plant will make seeds in any lighting condition/.

This made me think of something. When a plant is pollinated, it takes its energy and focuses on making seed, thereby reducing the energy it uses to make resin and the overall quality of the bud drops off a bit. When you only paint a few buds here and there, what does the plant think it's doing, making seed or making resin to try to catch some pollen? So even if you only paint a few buds on a plant, will it reduce the overall strength of the smoke throughout the plant, even the buds with no seeds?

 

[OB 1]

Dez, by the time the males show sex...and if you're doing a 12/12 from seed it could be in as little as fourteen day or less, you can pull the males when they show sex and put them in a plastic trash bag and seal it real good. They should live long enough to splooge some pollen into the bag and then just collect some out of the bag. You can then paint the buds you want to pollinate. Another thing you can do, take a party cup and poke a hole in the bottom, big enough to get a cutting from your male through it, take the cutting before the balls explode all over your girls, push the stem through the bottom so only the flowers are in the party cup, sort of like a clone, and then take the party cup and sit it in another cup of water to keep the cutting alive. Put a baggie over it so it doesn't spread and wait till some of the flowers pop and collect the pollen out of the party cup. If it sounds confusing, I'll get some pics up so you can visualize what I'm trying to say.

Good advice - that reminds me - you could just put the pollen filled bag around one branch and seal it with a twist tie to pollinate just a part of the plant right?

 

[Dezracer]

Dez, by the time the males show sex...and if you're doing a 12/12 from seed it could be in as little as fourteen day or less, you can pull the males when they show sex and put them in a plastic trash bag and seal it real good. They should live long enough to splooge some pollen into the bag and then just collect some out of the bag. You can then paint the buds you want to pollinate. Another thing you can do, take a party cup and poke a hole in the bottom, big enough to get a cutting from your male through it, take the cutting before the balls explode all over your girls, push the stem through the bottom so only the flowers are in the party cup, sort of like a clone, and then take the party cup and sit it in another cup of water to keep the cutting alive. Put a baggie over it so it doesn't spread and wait till some of the flowers pop and collect the pollen out of the party cup. If it sounds confusing, I'll get some pics up so you can visualize what I'm trying to say.

Good advice - that reminds me - you could just put the pollen filled bag around one branch and seal it with a twist tie to pollinate just a part of the plant right?

These two I have read about before but forgot about. If I was to put a bag around the bud I wanted to pollenate, could I use a clear baggie and just leave it on there until harvest? I think it would be an almost fool proof way to do it without getting pollen on other plants if it worked.

Do the males have as strong an odor as female flowers? If they don't, I could probably convince the wife to let me keep inside the house and away from the grow. Today I thought about just putting a small CFL setup in my attic for this. I think it stays cool enough up there this time of year to work and since my house is 2 story, there's no ventilation that joins the two. I'm thinking this may be the answer to my problem of keeping the male away from the flower room and am going to check into what kind temps, both hot and cold, are being reached.

 

[DST]

Hey Dez, If you can be arsed you can always check my own journal out. I have the black bag method in pics I think, male and female in a bag with oscillating fan for about 10 minutes. I have just harvested the plant and every single bud had seed, in fact there was no bud. After I removed the seeds the plant residue left weighed 7 grams!!! It was quite a small plant but I think it would have probably given at least 1/2 oz plus.

My advise, unless you want to start selling seeds, DO NOT POLLENATE a whole plant. I am not even going to mention the amount of seeds I got but for the size of plant it's an eye opener!!!

What I have been doing with my males is around week 2-3 when you can see they look good, i.e a plant you actually want to use. There is no point using a shit looking male to pollenate nice females. Most important thing to remember I reckon. Anyway, once the plant has enough bollox I remove and stop watering and cover in a plastic bag (preferably see through) I had my ones in my greenhouse but previously I had them in a spare room on the other side of my house. Once collected the pollen can be frozen and used whenever you want. I have just used pollen successfully that has been frozen for nearly a year.

Sepperate into smaller bags if you collect a lot. You can then add flour at a later date to make it spread further for pollenation. The bags you choose should fit over a branch. Then you just tag and bag the branch you want to pollenate. This is probably what you would want to do the first run anyway, so you have a selection of strains to then get some nice further breaders to stabilise it.....well that's what I have done so far. Even on small buds you will end up with around 20-30 seeds minimum.

PM me for any further advise if you so desire.

Oh, and the males will fukkin reek lad! Just ask my wife, lol

 

[Heads Up]

Good advice - that reminds me - you could just put the pollen filled bag around one branch and seal it with a twist tie to pollinate just a part of the plant right?

I do believe that would work, however, I'm not sure I would want to do that, it seems to me it would be much to hard to control the pollen that way. I would rather 'paint' it on the buds I want to seed.

These two I have read about before but forgot about. If I was to put a bag around the bud I wanted to pollenate, could I use a clear baggie and just leave it on there until harvest? I think it would be an almost fool proof way to do it without getting pollen on other plants if it worked.

Do the males have as strong an odor as female flowers? If they don't, I could probably convince the wife to let me keep inside the house and away from the grow. Today I thought about just putting a small CFL setup in my attic for this. I think it stays cool enough up there this time of year to work and since my house is 2 story, there's no ventilation that joins the two. I'm thinking this may be the answer to my problem of keeping the male away from the flower room and am going to check into what kind temps, both hot and cold, are being reached.

I don't think the bud would survive in a baggie for six weeks. All you really need is a few cuttings from the ballsy dude, just like taking clone cuttings, you don't really need the whole plant. If you haven't seen a male plant in full flower throwing off pollen, I kid you not, it's like a cloud of fine dust. I would only keep the whole plant if I knew reasonably well it wouldn't get everywhere in the house. That's my two cents on the issue.

Edit...I just read your post DST, good advice. Edit again, good advice particularly about selecting a male. Let me just edit this blasted thing one more time. The m lizzard also gave some good advice, make sure it's dry before freezing.

 

[DST]

cheers HeadsUp,

oh, and another thing, the spraying the plant down after......debatable from what I have seen that there is no cross pollenation after doing this. I am def going for a clear tote or a tomato tent next run (I saw cheap plastic seethrough ones a while back on sale, bummed I never bought some - perfect for 2 plants!!)

 

[OB 1]

cheers HeadsUp,

oh, and another thing, the spraying the plant down after......debatable from what I have seen that there is no cross pollenation after doing this.

Yeah, I definitely can't say for sure - my main experience is plucking female pollen sacs - always use wet fingers to get the pollen wet first, otherwise the stuff will explode everywhere if you break the sac.

 

[DST]

that is a good tip OB 1! Wet finger.

in theory it would seem that spraying the plant down would for sure reduce the immediate release of any pollen that was on leaves or not trapped on trichs. But I guess the water evaporates and the pollen is free to effectively fly off I guess. like you say, I am not 100%, and I don't mind finding seeds in my weed, it's just a shame not to know exactly what they are!

Pollen is miniscule and gets places I guess we don't know about.

Yeah, I definitely can't say for sure - my main experience is plucking female pollen sacs - always use wet fingers to get the pollen wet first, otherwise the stuff will explode everywhere if you break the sac.

 

[shnkrmn]

Kind of like sperm??????

that is a good tip OB 1! Wet finger.

in theory it would seem that spraying the plant down would for sure reduce the immediate release of any pollen that was on leaves or not trapped on trichs. But I guess the water evaporates and the pollen is free to effectively fly off I guess. like you say, I am not 100%, and I don't mind finding seeds in my weed, it's just a shame not to know exactly what they are!

Pollen is miniscule and gets places I guess we don't know about.

 

[curious old fart]

Dez

I use a room with a window that faces south for my males and for breeding.


I have just been thru a week without net services due to a hardware problem from the provider and the withdrawal pains are tolerable if mass amounts of mj are consumed.

I had my laptop in a resturant today to catch up on the last several days of the 600, when the manager whispered in my ear that the local police were getting ready to leave and that they would be standing next to where I was sitting to pay their tab. I thanked her, changed programs and left her a bud for a tip...just giving ya'll an idea of what I've had to do to try to keep up. There have been great photos of plants and harvest and a warning that I'm back.


cof

 

[DST]

Nice story cof, glad for good people eh!!! And good to have you back. Looks forward to seeing the pics.

Peace,

DST

Dez

I use a room with a window that faces south for my males and for breeding.


I have just been thru a week without net services due to a hardware problem from the provider and the withdrawal pains are tolerable if mass amounts of mj are consumed.

I had my laptop in a resturant today to catch up on the last several days of the 600, when the manager whispered in my ear that the local police were getting ready to leave and that they would be standing next to where I was sitting to pay their tab. I thanked her, changed programs and left her a bud for a tip...just giving ya'll an idea of what I've had to do to try to keep up. There have been great photos of plants and harvest and a warning that I'm back.


cof

 

[Dezracer]

I'm never disappointed with this thread. Everyone is always eager to help and that's not the case with most other threads on this site. I'll say it one more time, thank you. You guys have helped me out a ton since I came to this thread and I really appreciate it.

 

[Heads Up]

Have I mentioned lately just how much this thread makes me laugh? Cof you old fart, wondering where you been. Hope your withdrawal ends soon. This thread is great, we really have a good collection of stoners here, and some of us even use our brains once in a while and for those of us who don't...and we all know who we are...our fine breathren share their knowledge with great little gems of info, thank you ob1, cof about the window and dst, I would like no seeds in most of my weed, but like you, a few here and there don't bother me either.

As to the pollen, I'm not sure that it lasts for more than a few hours exposed to air. Do not write that in stone, I said I'm not sure. I've also read that spraying the buds you paint before putting them back into your flower room is a good idea, it helps to keep any loose pollen from spreading and I think this is where I read about it not lasting real long.

 

[Heads Up]

I'm never disappointed with this thread. Everyone is always eager to help and that's not the case with most other threads on this site. I'll say it one more time, thank you. You guys have helped me out a ton since I came to this thread and I really appreciate it.

Amazing huh? Edit...I had not read your post before I posted this one.

 

[Heads Up]

Gotta' go for now, lights are coming on and I did not water last night and in half gallon grow bags, they should be real thirsty tonight. I think it might be a three gallon night, it's certainly going to be a three dog night tonight.

 

[Dezracer]

Wish me luck. I heard through the grapevine that the guy I built the grow op for is looking to fire a guy that works at his dispensary for stealing bud and I'm going to try to get his job, hehe.

My body is too F'd up to be doing the kind of work I normally do so I've been trying to find a job in another industry for some time now with 0 success. I keep getting told I'm overqualified and they don't hire me out of fear that I'll leave if I get an opportunity making more money back in the construction industry. All I can do is try to reassure them that I'm not looking for that but my resume is long and mostly construction so they don't want to believe me.

I don't need to make the same money I used to and I can always supplement my income with my new hobby here if I really needed to but that's not why I got into this hobby so I'd use that as a last resort. Same buddy that I'm going to try to get a job with has said he'd buy from me for his dispensary if I needed some dough. I've smoked some of my stuff with him and he was pretty impressed so don't think there'd be an issue. He really liked the Sour Grapes.
Anyway, I think it'd be a cool deal to work at a club and I'm all about whatever is going to make me happy anymore after having to with other people's BS for soo long.

 

[jigfresh]

Pretty much off topic... but I know some of you are in England. If you are from anywhere else, you probably have no idea what they are... but... anyone watching The Ashes?

 

[1badmasonman]

Whats up fellas. Looks like some breeding is going down cool shizznit Dez. And thanks everbody for the input i learned a few useful things whilst reading.

Well my first hash attempt yeilded miserably. Hmmm not to sure what happened but out of a few oz of skuff i only managed a gram or so. But it is Heavy Duty and a light brown almost blonde sand looking. Think i did a few things wrong like using frozen skuff and over mixing the batch. Ohh well atleast i got me a lil hash and no more shake laying around. Next time ill do better hehe.

The good folks at hanna instruments sent me my new free of charge ph probe today. Seems they are simpathetic to newb hydro growers lol. Anyways i just thought that was really cool of them to send a replacement for free. Now I just hope it works lol.

Hope yee all are doing well. 1BMM

 

[wally nutter]

ive never seen any hip hop in here.

i like all kinds of music

well heres a kid my age who i think is gunna do it big
http://soundcloud.com/yaboyshallo/wave-ganggg-2010

 

[1badmasonman]

Sounds like a nice career change to me Dez. I too get tired of the construction trade at times. Its chicken one week and feathers the next it seems. Whats a man to do. Hope that job pans out for ya.

Jigfresh Yep im stumped, I give up lol. Whats the Ashes