Pineapple Express G13 Lab's Seed to Harvest

bongmarley2009

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@ Scotty, you are growing all the strains that I can't wait to grow. Pineapple Express, now Vanilla Kush...What's next? Better not be Tangerine Dream....My buddy's dad just got a medical card, so he is going to put his basement to good use. Pretty sure he is going with an ebb and flow setup instead of the 8 waterfarm setup, but he will be using only flora nova bloom. As for the power kush, the leaves are coated in frosty sugars. Will post final yield weight when the time comes and yes we could have done a few things differently, but you can just tell it's going to be good if not great weed. Anyways, i love growing and I will help answer anyones questions.

@Obrye, I do not have a grow journal and probably won't have the opportunity to take any pictures from now till harvest since I'll be at home.
 

Crystal Toy

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@ two brains

My buddy and I have one plant currently in week 6 of flowering using 1 400w MH/HPS, a waterfarm, and ONLY flora nova bloom for nutrients just like Scotty. We are using tap water with a pH of 6.2 with a ppm of around 150. The flora nova bloom buffers allowed us to stop using pH down completely at about 900-1000ppm.

What we are doing is replacing the water with new nutrient solution everytime we add 2 gallons of plain tap water back into the waterfarm. And the water and nutrient solution is poured in through one corner of the waterfarm. You don't need to treat the hydroton like soil. We would bump up the ppm of the nutrients about 100-150ppm each week and right now it's at 1300ppm and for now that's what it will be getting for the remainder of the grow. Only about 3 weeks left till harvest.

OK OK Let me get this str8. Start with say 3 gallon of water/solution (from empty) and as the plant takes it, top it off daily with plain water till 2 gallons are used, then drain and change water/solution and start all over. is there a flush period, like 24 hrs of just water before adding new water/solution or is the topping up daily with plain water (up to 2 gallons) considered as the flush? Thanks in advance.
PS. still cant believe my eyes. amazing grow. thanks for sharing.Almost forgot. SCOTTY, what is your veg light time at before you go 12/12. 18/6 or 20/4 ?
 

bongmarley2009

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@ Crystal Toy, the waterfarm reservoir holds 2 gallons. For every 2 gallons of plain water added back into the reservoir, the next day we will drain everything completely and replace with 2 gallons of fresh nutrient solution right away. And right now our plant is drinking about a half a gallon of nutrient solution a day, so we will completely drain and replace with new nutrient solution about every 3-4 days or once 2 gallons of plain water is added back in. In my opinion, this is much easier than the add back method where you have to check your ppm and pH levels more frequently to figure out whether your plant wants more water or a stronger nutrient solution. Also, I believe Scotty said that he only vegged the PE for 35 days. I know it was less than 40 days for sure. Plants grow really fast in waterfarms.
 

Crystal Toy

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@ Crystal Toy, the waterfarm reservoir holds 2 gallons. For every 2 gallons of plain water added back into the reservoir, the next day we will drain everything completely and replace with 2 gallons of fresh nutrient solution right away. And right now our plant is drinking about a half a gallon of nutrient solution a day, so we will completely drain and replace with new nutrient solution about every 3-4 days or once 2 gallons of plain water is added back in. In my opinion, this is much easier than the add back method where you have to check your ppm and pH levels more frequently to figure out whether your plant wants more water or a stronger nutrient solution. Also, I believe Scotty said that he only vegged the PE for 35 days. I know it was less than 40 days for sure. Plants grow really fast in waterfarms.
Thanks Bongmarley, just wanted to be sure. BTW i believe he vegged for 3 weeks only. good luck on your grow.
 

SCOTTYBALLS

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@ Scotty, you are growing all the strains that I can't wait to grow. Pineapple Express, now Vanilla Kush...What's next? Better not be Tangerine Dream....My buddy's dad just got a medical card, so he is going to put his basement to good use. Pretty sure he is going with an ebb and flow setup instead of the 8 waterfarm setup, but he will be using only flora nova bloom. As for the power kush, the leaves are coated in frosty sugars. Will post final yield weight when the time comes and yes we could have done a few things differently, but you can just tell it's going to be good if not great weed. Anyways, i love growing and I will help answer anyones questions.

@Obrye, I do not have a grow journal and probably won't have the opportunity to take any pictures from now till harvest since I'll be at home.
Green house Super Lemon Haze up next ;)
 

mango tango

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YUPPPPP Tangerine Dream and Super Lemon Haze i got those and a few more that im going to mother and clone for this summer. cant wait
 

mango tango

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i already have a dozen patches set up over my land for this spring so i hope they make lots of clones too!
...scottyballz your thread inspired lots of people and encouraged me to order pineapple express and go to Brew N Grow and get a hydrofarm. + rep
 

Crystal Toy

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SCOTTY or BONG. Do you adjust PH in water daily or do you just adjust it in water change and leave it alone? I noticed my PH going up from 6.0 to 7.0 in one day. Even at 7.0, the plant is looking very healthy, just concerned she wont eat ( just day 2 ) and i see a big difference in how she's pointing/pushing toward the light.very impressed Thanks again SCOTTY for your great thread. REP+
 

bongmarley2009

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@ Crystal, I believe Scotty said that the pH can be higher and out of the suggested hydroponic range during veg. I wouldn't worry too much if it's growing and looks healthy. When you get closer to flower, the pH buffers will kick in. I'm guessing you are using tap water?
 

JeromeT

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Scotty: Thanks for taking the time out to teach everyone what you know. I havent grown since I was a teen in the early 80's but with the help of you and others my learning curve shouldnt be too bad. I am duplicating your cabinet grow journal but I am growing Blue Hash instead of PE. I am using a 400 watt CMH light for vegetating and also plan on using it for flowering. You mentioned that you regretted switching over to hps to finish off your PE grow. Are you finishing your current grow with CMH or have you reconsidered? Thanks.
 

Kaptain Kron

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you bastards with the tangerine *shakes fist* damnit well ill pick some up soon with my VK and PE im pretty dissapointed right now, by black berry that i got from nirvana didnt take =( 4-10 seeds cracked open thier shells 3-4 showed tap roots 2-3 popped out of soil and both died right away type shit made me very sad. The mystery seeds they sent me i got 8-10 cracked and out of soil only 2 or 3 may make it though but they werent good seeds you could tell took me 2 weeks to get tap roots from em. My black jack i got from them 9-10 in 2 days so its not me =( ah hopefully they replace my black berry with something better or different i dont want it again. Small seeds and green. Sorry to jack the thread lol im upset at nirvana right now those 5 wonder woman i just put into the plate better germ lol
 

jimbizzzale67123

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SCOTTY or BONG. Do you adjust PH in water daily or do you just adjust it in water change and leave it alone? I noticed my PH going up from 6.0 to 7.0 in one day. Even at 7.0, the plant is looking very healthy, just concerned she wont eat ( just day 2 ) and i see a big difference in how she's pointing/pushing toward the light.very impressed Thanks again SCOTTY for your great thread. REP+
If she is in plain water she doesn't need any nutrients so the pH doesn't matter. Once she is older and you are adding nutrients you will want to adjust the pH anytime nutrients are in the bucket. In the beginning the pH will go crazy because of the hydro ten it just seems to happen it will slowly settle down.
 

Kaptain Kron

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wow can anyone clarify for me if im wrong in my thinking here. Nirvana sent me a bad batch as mentioned above they want to send me more of the same seeds from what i think is a bad batch. I payed for their most expensive pack. I asked to have it replaced with a pack that was not black berry and actually cheaper than the blackberry but they are dead set on sending me more of those bullshit ass seeds what should i do?
 

Serapis

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Accept the seeds. It doesn't mean they came from the same pheno or the same plant.

As for PH in the waterfarms.... when I was running just water, no plant or nutes, my PH was all over the place. Now that I have an 8" plant and nutes in the reservoir, I have not had to adjust PH. In fact, once you dial in the PPM correctly, your PH should need very little adjusting.
 

SCOTTYBALLS

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wow can anyone clarify for me if im wrong in my thinking here. Nirvana sent me a bad batch as mentioned above they want to send me more of the same seeds from what i think is a bad batch. I payed for their most expensive pack. I asked to have it replaced with a pack that was not black berry and actually cheaper than the blackberry but they are dead set on sending me more of those bullshit ass seeds what should i do?
I agree with the others just take them, Ive had nothing but good things to say about nirvana over the last 10yrs..
 

Kaptain Kron

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i cancelled my order its bullshit i refuse to take the same bullshit blackberry seeds, reasoning behind this is because i did a lil more research before i cancelled the credit card order and 98% of the posts i read on blackberry from sativa or nirvana is that it is crap and didnt germ. So i told them not to send me the same ones it was like beating my head against a wall until i cancelled the credit card then alice herself decided to deal with me but too little too late. Ive got what i want from their stock i wont be ordering from them again.

anyways hows the plants lookin scotty
 

Serapis

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i cancelled my order its bullshit i refuse to take the same bullshit blackberry seeds, reasoning behind this is because i did a lil more research before i cancelled the credit card order and 98% of the posts i read on blackberry from sativa or nirvana is that it is crap and didnt germ. So i told them not to send me the same ones it was like beating my head against a wall until i cancelled the credit card then alice herself decided to deal with me but too little too late. Ive got what i want from their stock i wont be ordering from them again.

anyways hows the plants lookin scotty
If you believe that cancelling a credit card is going to make the charge go away, you might want to keep an eye on your statements. You see, you contacted a merchant and gave your number out. They fulfilled your order. Your protection and chargeback ability is a moot point if the purchase broke any laws. Technically, ordering marijuana seeds and then admitingly germinating them is illegal in the United States. I wouldn't be surprised if Alice fights the chargeback and discloses the details of the transaction to Visa or Mastercard. They might just write you off, but that may depend on how you treated Alice.
 

Kaptain Kron

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i was extremely polite i told her i did not like her employees and how they handled my situation before she spoke to me and she spoke to me after it was done. Im a medical patient in California with a state med card let them try and come after me i could care less.
 
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