Smoke N Grow nutes versus Jack's Professional

riddleme

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Those of you that know me or have followed my threads know that I have used Jack's Nutes and it could be said that a lot of folks here at RIU have switched to Jack's after following my threads.

Am I switching my nutes? Not yet :) Why am I doing this challenge growoff? Because I am interested in seeing this new nute perform and because (and this is the big reason) the owner of Smoke N Grow and I have had several conversations and I like him. How many times do we get to talk to the owner, designer or inventor? Not often in my world LOL, well if you follow my threads then you know I don't believe in high P ratios in container gardening, I prefer something closer to a 3-1-2 NPK ratio and to prove a point in my last grow I used a General Purpose 20-10-20 all the way through both veg & flower with great results. While there are a lot of folks that do not agree with me on several things when it comes to growing our favorite plant, few can argue the results I get. When I first started talking to Smoke N Grow I declined a comparrison growoff because of the nute ratios he had designed. As our conversations continued, he began to see that my point of view (as to nute ratios) might have some merit and he designed a 3-1-2 ratio nute, I want to say just for me LOL but actually more so for every day regular gardeners. Once he did this it was hard not to agree to a growoff :)

There has actually been a few grows here at RIU using Smoke N Grow nutes, one by my good friend Illumination where it was compared to Jack's Classic (I believe) the results were close but his garden also experienced a few minor problems so the final results were left kinda up in the air.

What is the deal that makes Smoke N Grow nutes attractive, well to be honest there are several, the price is reasonable doesn't attack your wallet like some MJ specific nutes do. It is made up of both organic and chemical nutes designed to work together (I admit this intriged me) and it is easy to use (a huge plus for new growers) comes in packets designed for each week of grow (both veg & flower) and IT PH's ITSELF this being the one thing that sets it apart from pretty much all others. I mean seriously what more could you ask for, no more measuring, no more testing, drop the packet in a gallon of water and your ready to go with a formulation designed specifically for each stage of our plants developement. It actually seems to good to be true,,,, well we'll see as we get this growoff started :hump:
 

riddleme

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Last week I harvested round two in my new garden, with the intent of having some Tilders ready for a fellow RIU member that is comming for a Christmas visit. This morning I took some pics of a few of those buds and wanted to share them with all of you. Nothing better than some good bud porn to start a new grow IMO :)

Enjoy!
 

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riddleme

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Right now in my flower area the plants I harvested the tops off of last week are finishing the bottoms, here is a look at them as well as a few bud shots, you may notice some nanners in one of the shots, I have cropped out a blown up version of the nanner pic so new growers can see them and marked them in red. In my last grow thread I posted pics of a male plant with his balls hanging (right before dropping polen) and I got a lot of thanks from new growers that had never seen such a pic. In that spirit I offer the Transgendered bud porn for your viewing pleasure :)
 

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riddleme

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for this grow, there will be a lot going on. Obviously the nute comparrison growoff, and a continuation of my breeding project. plus we have both seedlings and clones. Also I will be modifying my medium, in my last grow I used Calcined Clay for the first time and opted to start with a 30% mix. For this grow the mix will be 50/50 50% Calcined Clay and 50% sunshine mix #4 (I also amend with Dolomite Lime) the reason being that time between watering was a bit more than I like as the peat based medium retains water beter than soil. With my "Make it Rain Technique" I prefer a 2 to 3 day watering cycle, with the 30% mixture it was running 4 to 5 days.

For those of you that may be new and have not followed one of my grows, I am using 2 400 watt CMH (Ceramic Metal Halide) lights for flowering (though they can be used to veg as well) and a bank of 10 23 watt cfl's that = 230 actual watts for veg (8 6500K bulbs and 2 2700K bulbs for a mixed spectrum)

The strains,,,,,,,,
in seedling we have,

Tilders X Northren Lights #1, this is my breeding project and the plant I call Tilders is a Northern Lights Special

KC Brains Mind Bender

KC Brains Crystal Limit

Grand Daddy Purple, Yeah I know it's a clone only strain, we hermied one to get seeds and now I am testing them

and StepChild a name I gave to a Big Bud X Purple Erkle cross that I now simply call STP

In Clones we have,,,,,

KC Brains Mango

Grand Daddy Purple

and RMH's own Isis which is a Goddess X White Widow

The Smoke N Grow nute off will be done on the Mango Clones :)

as always I start seedlings & clones in FF Happy Frogs soil planted in peat pots to give them a good start,,,,here are the pics
 

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Illumination

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thanx for da props Teach:mrgreen:

This is going to be cool cause as soon as I GET THE 3-1-2 (lol) and the room is setup, I also will be doing Smoke'n'grow vs. Jack's in my coop grow on 4 Barney's Farm Amnesia Lemon's...and hopefully no curveball's hit me in the head:blsmoke:

And I must say I am very very very impressed with the tilder's buds? And I bet I will be more than impressed...more like convinced soon...lol:joint:

And told you DOL is awesome peeps...good dude with a good word and knowledge and ambition...rare find today...Fred...you are da shit...for real kiss-ass

Namaste':leaf:

oh and of course.....'scribed
 

bigman4270

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Hell ya brother, glad to see ya back around. Everything looks and sounds awesome as usual. Like every body else, I'm scribed

Peace

Byg

Oh ya , nice win!
 

riddleme

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this should be interesting subbed
Subbed! This should be very interesting!
nice riddle u kno im here for this one!!!! love the bud porn...cant wait to see this garden take off!
thanx for da props Teach:mrgreen:

This is going to be cool cause as soon as I GET THE 3-1-2 (lol) and the room is setup, I also will be doing Smoke'n'grow vs. Jack's in my coop grow on 4 Barney's Farm Amnesia Lemon's...and hopefully no curveball's hit me in the head:blsmoke:

And I must say I am very very very impressed with the tilder's buds? And I bet I will be more than impressed...more like convinced soon...lol:joint:

And told you DOL is awesome peeps...good dude with a good word and knowledge and ambition...rare find today...Fred...you are da shit...for real kiss-ass

Namaste':leaf:

oh and of course.....'scribed
Hell ya brother, glad to see ya back around. Everything looks and sounds awesome as usual. Like every body else, I'm scribed

Peace

Byg

Oh ya , nice win!
Welcome everyone, glad to have ya along as always! It should be a fun one :)

and yes Chiefs did good, watching Denver at Raiders now, Tebo looking pretty good on his 1st start
 
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