cuttings still looking droopy after 2 weeks.....

[beeznutz]

i feel like these girls should be stretching for light by now but theyre not.
they were cut from a healthy plant 17 days ago, dipped in Clonex, put in
Root Riot cubes, and ten days later after roots were showing i've put them
in hempy cups [perlite]. Gave them food at 150ppm 2 days ago and they're
under 2x26w cfl lights. Temperature stays between 74-78 and humidity at 30%.

what do you guys think?

 

[Shwagbag]

Are you still giving them a foliar feed? I have a hell of a time with clones and have no idea why but I continue to foliar feed even after root production starts until new growth sprouts. I am interested in hearing what some more experienced growers have to say about your temp and humidity. I would think its fine but perhaps the humidity is low for clones? I do know that I've pretty much given up on some clones when all of a sudden a new shoot pops and they're good to go, hang in there.

 

[beeznutz]

The only foliar feeding ive been doing is with RO water, no nukes....
I had humidity at 60-70% in the beginning but my understanding is that once you get to this point there's no need for high humidity, unless im mistaking....

Are you still giving them a foliar feed? I have a hell of a time with clones and have no idea why but I continue to foliar feed even after root production starts until new growth sprouts. I am interested in hearing what some more experienced growers have to say about your temp and humidity. I would think its fine but perhaps the humidity is low for clones? I do know that I've pretty much given up on some clones when all of a sudden a new shoot pops and they're good to go, hang in there.

 

[Codeman27]

have you noticed any new growth? Did they have enough root mass to support the little guys when you transplanted? If they didnt have a good root mass you might still need to up that humidity.

 

[Shwagbag]

The higher humidity can't hurt, where is it now? I would say you want it above 45-50% for cloning and vegging so if you have the means to control it bring it up, it can't hurt. Are you continuing your foliar feed after the roots have started? I would suggest continuation of the foliar spray until shortly after new growth appears, just something I do because it can't hurt. I like to use a VERY lightly concentrated spray with potassium and nitrogen. Potassium to encourage root production, nitrogen to encourage new growth.

 

[beeznutz]

yes, there's def new growth.....
it's weird, i had them in the closet when they were cut and planted without much alteration to the interior, just lights, fans, heather [its oil heater with a 1in piece of wood on top of it and the tray with the clones on top of that], and a humidifier. after i put them in cups i also put white poly all around the walls and sort of "drop" the ceiling by hanging a big lightbox. now even with the humidifier running at full still cant go pass 40%. the door is usually cracked open about 1in with a fan outside on the floor blowing in and a fan inside on top blowing out. there's also another fan inside hanging midway blowing a little air on top of clones.

Shwagbag, ur saying i should give them foliar feed with some nutes? What about when i feed them nutes in the cup, is 150-200 ppm about right? I/m using General Organics line of nutes, always had, with the complete line available.

 

[Shwagbag]

I don't think I'm experienced enough to give you the answer you're looking for but I use the recommended foliar feeding concentration cut in half to avoid burning the little gems. As for the nutes in the cup I would also cut the recommended dosage in half until you have a strong root base. Hopefully some more people can chime in here with their recommendations.

Honestly, if you have new growth I wouldn't worry too much I'm sure everything will be fine. But some nutes in a light dose will encourage expediting their stability in terms of root production as well as increasing the rate of new growth.

 

[meezy4tw]

Jiffy pellets have a tendency to hold too much water sometimes, check them to see how wet they are, imo that droop looks pretty damn close to overwatering symptons....

 

[Shwagbag]

Jiffy pellets have a tendency to hold too much water sometimes, check them to see how wet they are, imo that droop looks pretty damn close to overwatering symptons....

Could be onto something there, its easy to over water when potted directly into perlite too.

 

[jawbrodt]

This is just a guess, but I'd say that the roots are staying confined to those jiffy pellets, and not spreading through the perlite, whether it be too dry, etc.... If the roots cant grow, neither will the plants.

 

[beeznutz]

ok.
what would make them stay confined? to me it just seems pretty simple right now, they're in the cubes which is surrounded by perlite [plenty of room and air round it right?] and they don't touch the bottom of the cup which is where the water/nutes seats.
theoretically, i dont see how they can be too wet but i could b wrong, ill check to make sure and maybe ill let the the cubes get a little dry before i feed next time.

btw, this is what im using:

http://www.hydrodynamicsintl.com/rootriotplantstartercubes.htm

This is just a guess, but I'd say that the roots are staying confined to those jiffy pellets, and not spreading through the perlite, whether it be too dry, etc.... If the roots cant grow, neither will the plants.

 

[beeznutz]

here's the link:

http://www.hydrodynamicsintl.com/rootriotplantstartercubes.htm

 

[jawbrodt]

Well, basically, roots won't jump through dry perlite, to reach the damp stuff. So, if there's a large enough gap between the pellet and the moisture, the roots won't spread. Either they need watered more often, or the roots need to be placed where they can easily access moisture.