Hygrozyme? Is it worth the money?

Hey guys. I've been beefing up my SOG aero-grow and just added a second flower room w 4 more 1000k watt HPS bulbs for a total of seven. I now have two 100 Gallon reservoirs so my nutrient program is getting rather expensive. Because of this I'm trying to decide what really makes a difference and what doesn't. I only have 9-months experience growing and my local shop originally directed me on what items I should use. They seem to want to sell me all kinds of stuff now so what I really want to know is how beneficial is each thing I am using and is there anything I could eliminate without effecting yield or that just isn't worth the money.

One thing I noticed that is rather expensive is Hygrozyme. I'm wondering how effective it is and if it makes sense to continue using it.

Here's my list of nutrients/bacteria/etc and how they are used. Please feel free to comment on any of it. EXPERIENCED GROWERS ONLY PLEASE!!!:

- GH Expert Recirculating 3-part Nutrient program (all nutes on that schedule)
- Hygrozyme (per bottle instructions: 8-10 ML/Gal in every rez change)
- Sub-Culture B (per container instructions with every rez change)
- Root Excelerator (can't think of name, but very expensive (product of Holland)) (used during veg and the first week of flowering only)
- H2O2 (35%) (I flush the system for 1 hour with water and 3 ML/Gal between each rez change)

Thanks for the advice guys!



I've only been growing for 1 year
 

malady

Active Member
i was always under the impression that you could not use h202 with the beneficial bactierias

there is either 2 ways to go about this

1. h202, sm90, etc.. just running a sterilize rez with chemical nutes
2. organic with the subs and mycho and all that other stuff

pick one
i cannot say which is better
there are too many different opinions on what works
 

wiseguy316

Well-Known Member
I don't care for the stuff, i tried it & wasn't impressed. Still have half a bottle i will prolly never use.
 

gom

Active Member
Hi. A little new myself. But this is what I think.

GH Expert Recirculating 3-part Nutrient program (all nutes on that schedule)- LOVE this stuff for hydro. I use just the 3 base parts floramicro, floragrow, and florabloom. good chit man. and cheaper than most.

Hygrozyme- a must. Yes it's expensive. But a little goes a long way, and it's a enzyme so it has no shelf life.

Sub-Culture B- I can't see why you need this if your useing Hygrozyme (its a microbe additive. You shouldn't need it with Hygrozyme there doing the same thing for the most part). But if you think you need something like this try microbebrew from FoxFarm I think you'll find it's cheaper.

Root Excelerator- If your cloning maybe there are cheaper ways to go. Like Kangaroots or clonex(not the gel). I use kangaroots for seedlings out to week 2. Thinking about trying clonex(not the gel) next time I need to buy. But if your plants are getting all the water(nutes) uptake they need then don't use. Your spending money you don't need to. I also think if there getting the uptake they need then lets get there focus on growing bud not roots. Just my thoughts.

H2O2- I never use. I use sledgehammer flush (any flush that breaks down salt buildup is good.) When I do a rez change. I remove the water from the rez then add fresh back. That gives my roots a bath of air. They love that. I guess I shouldn't say I never use. Just use it when I fuck things up and need to give the baby's first aid.

Superthrive - is a must, and a little goes a long way. I use 4 drops per gal with a eye dropper. good stuff right there.(you should look into this)

Bloombastic- I use this in the last 2 weeks of nute usage(3 weeks before harvest. Last week before harvest is straight water flush). Just to fatten, and tighten up the buds. Once again a little goes a long way.


So that's what I use and its working for me so far. My setup is all in 3 gal buckets. I have 2 to 4 going at any given time. 2 are setup with a 8" net pot bucket lids and a water farm kit and air stones. They run all on air. For growing the bigger plants. 2 are setup with six 3" net pots each, and have a small pump to top feed with and air stones. I grow the little auto flowering hybrids in there. Like a small SOG grow.

So I hope you find this helpful. Like I said I am still pretty new to this myself. But this is whats working for me.

Good luck and good growing
 
BUMP - anyone else care to comment?


Hey guys. I've been beefing up my SOG aero-grow and just added a second flower room w 4 more 1000k watt HPS bulbs for a total of seven. I now have two 100 Gallon reservoirs so my nutrient program is getting rather expensive. Because of this I'm trying to decide what really makes a difference and what doesn't. I only have 9-months experience growing and my local shop originally directed me on what items I should use. They seem to want to sell me all kinds of stuff now so what I really want to know is how beneficial is each thing I am using and is there anything I could eliminate without effecting yield or that just isn't worth the money.

One thing I noticed that is rather expensive is Hygrozyme. I'm wondering how effective it is and if it makes sense to continue using it.

Here's my list of nutrients/bacteria/etc and how they are used. Please feel free to comment on any of it. EXPERIENCED GROWERS ONLY PLEASE!!!:

- GH Expert Recirculating 3-part Nutrient program (all nutes on that schedule)
- Hygrozyme (per bottle instructions: 8-10 ML/Gal in every rez change)
- Sub-Culture B (per container instructions with every rez change)
- Root Excelerator (can't think of name, but very expensive (product of Holland)) (used during veg and the first week of flowering only)
- H2O2 (35%) (I flush the system for 1 hour with water and 3 ML/Gal between each rez change)

Thanks for the advice guys!



I've only been growing for 1 year
 

mindphuk

Well-Known Member
If you really want to use a hygrozyme-like product, look into the enzymes produced for pond use, they usually come in a dry form and are much more concentrated than Hygrozyme, Cannazyme or any of the other rip-off products that you buy at a hydro store. http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=112590

I use a product called Pond-zyme with barley and it treats 8,000 gallons for $13
 

KWsmoke

Well-Known Member
Man, these guys are crazy. I use hygrozyme through the entire cycle. It seems to not have any effects until you begin to flower; in the past I've had problems with brown bulky roots that clog my 50-site aero/nft, after I started to use hygrozyme I noticed that my roots are consistently white and have WAY more of the "feeder" type roots rather thn sloppy brown muck shit.


HYGROZYME IS THE SHIT!
 

Heisenberg

Well-Known Member
If you use beneficial microbes you DO NOT need enzyme products. Microbes make their own enzymes. You are spending money on redundancy.

H202 will kill microbes, but it looks like you only use it during flush and then reinoculate the res, so that's fine..although unnecessary. H202 is to prevent disease, which the beneficial microbes will do just fine. If you are trying to use h202 as a salt flush, you'd be better off using a flush product. H202 does damage roots on a micro level which is tolerable if you want to fight disease, but should be avoided if possible. Since h202 wipes out the microlife you are forcing them to recolonize the roots each change.

You can use microbes with synthetic chemical nutes just fine. And rather than spend money on an incomplete product like sub-b/m, buy the mycogrow soluble powered from fungi.com, it's $6 an oz and has far more species. Brewing it tea style will make it last even longer. The roots excelurator can also be put in the tea, making it last longer. 2 gallons of tea would require only 2 ml of roots excel and one scoop of mycrogrow, but it would then treat 32 gallons of res.
 

The Waiter

Active Member
If you're growing in hydroponics which it sounds like you are, you don't want anything to "live" in your res besides your plant. Theres no need for beneficial bacteria to break down the nutes. They are chemical fertilizers so they are already broken down and ready for your plant to absorb through the water.
 

tea tree

Well-Known Member
I had some probs with a rdwc. I got browned roots and dying plants. So I poured in some hygrozyme and fixed the heat prob that gave me brown roots. In a few days of using as directed I had white roots growing again. I chopped off the brown roots and let the white prosper. I had a what looked like a compost tea for a while. Fed up with the heat of rdwc and not wanting a chiller I switched the plants to rockwool cubes. Today those plants are healthy flower girls. So I used it to kill dead root rot roots and that is its use. In other cases I dont use it. Prob should people say once in a while for larger plants with prolongued veg times if you have it.
 

Heisenberg

Well-Known Member
If you're growing in hydroponics which it sounds like you are, you don't want anything to "live" in your res besides your plant. Theres no need for beneficial bacteria to break down the nutes. They are chemical fertilizers so they are already broken down and ready for your plant to absorb through the water.
Organic decomposition is only one reason to use bennies. The other reasons to use them would be, prevention of disease, enhancement of the roots, cheap source of enzymes.
 

sonomascomaaroma

Active Member
I did a retarded money run and got hygrozyme, bud ignitor, etc. In coco lucas formula and yeilded 2.8 lbs in a space i normally would get 1. I dont know what it was but i still use hygrozyme and have narrowed the effects to 4 things that being one.
 

waterdawg

Well-Known Member
Ok another nube chiming in lol. As op says i to have less than 9 months and the grow shop in my area did sell me lots of stuff with pretty pics of girls with plant thongs and stuff lol. Then I read lots, found a nute manufacturer real close and my nute bill is now $100.00 a year (5-6) trays a year. I tried hygrozyme, bud boosters, and numerous other things. I run a sterile res, good or bad, its a choice made for simplicity IMO. Also I'm not saying things work or dont work. And best to try for yourself cause you'll get 10 different answers. Hygrozyme did not seem to help in growth rate in my setup but maybe it was not given a proper trial. Just saying be careful about what you buy and try things sparingly to see if they work for you. I am on my 7 tray and have not lost a crop. I have good results and not so good but the nutes seemed to play a small part of the equation IMO. I gotta say I'm in awe at some of the yields guys claim to get though 😳.
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
Nutrient brands make little difference. Knowing what to use and why is more important then what brand. Different products will produce different results for many reasons, the biggest...you the grower. Hydrozyme does have benefits in certain situations and in others , its useless. The best thing you can do is understand the system you are using and know why you use certain products. Don't be sold...by anyone. Do a little research before you buy. There are some pretty off the wall products specifically meant to pull your money out of your pockets. Hydrozyme..in my books is a good product to implicate in your feeding schedule(hydro), think of it like your operating system on your computer, don't know its there but its always working in the background. JAS
 

Lynseylily

New Member
I have a question regarding the use of Hydrozyme in a deep water culture system. We have flood and drain basket with a 6 inch cube jn the basket and the bucket usually fills full of huge white roots. Used Hydrozyme In with the nutes and now we have no roots and the cube is not taking in any water. Almost like it has created a barrier on the cube. This was not an issue prior to the use of Hydrozyme. Has anyone had this issue using this?
 

FuzzyNugz

New Member
I have a question regarding the use of Hydrozyme in a deep water culture system. We have flood and drain basket with a 6 inch cube jn the basket and the bucket usually fills full of huge white roots. Used Hydrozyme In with the nutes and now we have no roots and the cube is not taking in any water. Almost like it has created a barrier on the cube. This was not an issue prior to the use of Hydrozyme. Has anyone had this issue using this?

You mean Hygrozyme right?
 

FuzzyNugz

New Member
Hey guys. I've been beefing up my SOG aero-grow and just added a second flower room w 4 more 1000k watt HPS bulbs for a total of seven. I now have two 100 Gallon reservoirs so my nutrient program is getting rather expensive. Because of this I'm trying to decide what really makes a difference and what doesn't. I only have 9-months experience growing and my local shop originally directed me on what items I should use. They seem to want to sell me all kinds of stuff now so what I really want to know is how beneficial is each thing I am using and is there anything I could eliminate without effecting yield or that just isn't worth the money.

One thing I noticed that is rather expensive is Hygrozyme. I'm wondering how effective it is and if it makes sense to continue using it.

Here's my list of nutrients/bacteria/etc and how they are used. Please feel free to comment on any of it. EXPERIENCED GROWERS ONLY PLEASE!!!:

- GH Expert Recirculating 3-part Nutrient program (all nutes on that schedule)
- Hygrozyme (per bottle instructions: 8-10 ML/Gal in every rez change)
- Sub-Culture B (per container instructions with every rez change)
- Root Excelerator (can't think of name, but very expensive (product of Holland)) (used during veg and the first week of flowering only)
- H2O2 (35%) (I flush the system for 1 hour with water and 3 ML/Gal between each rez change)

Thanks for the advice guys!



I've only been growing for 1 year
I know this is a super late response, but here are proof of my results after starting use of Hygrozyme and Roots Excelurator. These are before and after two one week!
 

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Skunk Baxter

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I grow in coco now, and Hygrozyme is one of the very few things that I would never go without. For most growers it's pretty rare that you'd actually need it, but when you do need it, you fuckin' need it. And usually pretty quickly. And, even when you don't actually "need" it, it still helps you have a cleaner, more robust root system.
 
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