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shnkrmn

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You probably have a mg deficiency. That's what usually makes the leaves curl up and get crispy like that. It doesn't kill, but it hurts your yield because you lose the fans. You say you don't see this on the lower leaves, because it starts there and progresses upwards. plants demand for ca and mg skyrockets the first couple weeks of flowering. You see a lot of new growers get into trouble during that period. my .02
Oh, and how old is that bulb in the first couple pix. See how it's blackened at both ends? Probably near the end of its useful life.
 

duchieman

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For our friend Wally. Hope it's not thought insensitive, just want to lighten the mood of it all. Don't let them get you Wally!

[video=youtube;hnzHtm1jhL4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4[/video]
 

justlearning73

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Shn- that bulb is dead. That is why i am using a MH bulb right now. The bulb was only a few months old. Some else on here suggested i run my shit through a surge protector (thanks to who ever that was. Sorry memeory aint what it used to be). I have one now. Hopefully that will stop the problem. I have been through 3 bulbs i think with in one year. Cant afford a new HPS yet. I have been giving cal mag. Following directions per bottle...1 tsp per gallon. I will up the dose for the this plant and see what happens. Not sure what you meant by "You say you don't see this on the lower leaves, because it starts there and progresses upwards" The lower leaves are fine...for now any way. I have had this happen on my other grows with these. It starts at the top and works it way down. It just seems to effect the fan leaves mostly. Thanks for the input. Thanks to you too Tryna.
 

shnkrmn

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3 bulbs in a year. According HTG supply, the most common cause of bulb failure is not seating the bulb firmly in the socket. I really screw min in firmly. If there isn't really solid contact with the electrode on the base of the bulb with the base of the socket, you get arcing, carbon buildup and voltage fluctuation which causes early bulb failure. If the ballast works at all, it's probably not the problem. Your bulb certainly shouldn't be blackened like that unless you've been using it hard for 18/24 mos.

mag deficiency affects fan leaves and starts at the bottom of the plant. If you don't see the same problem on your lower fans first, I'm not sure what the cause of your leaf problem is, but it sure looks like mg def.

Shn- that bulb is dead. That is why i am using a MH bulb right now. The bulb was only a few months old. Some else on here suggested i run my shit through a surge protector (thanks to who ever that was. Sorry memeory aint what it used to be). I have one now. Hopefully that will stop the problem. I have been through 3 bulbs i think with in one year. Cant afford a new HPS yet. I have been giving cal mag. Following directions per bottle...1 tsp per gallon. I will up the dose for the this plant and see what happens. Not sure what you meant by "You say you don't see this on the lower leaves, because it starts there and progresses upwards" The lower leaves are fine...for now any way. I have had this happen on my other grows with these. It starts at the top and works it way down. It just seems to effect the fan leaves mostly. Thanks for the input. Thanks to you too Tryna.
 

justlearning73

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Shn-I will double check the bulb the next one i get. Maybe that is the problem. It is either that, or the flux i with out the surge protector. It is a lumtek digi, adjustable ballast. Thanks for the info. I appreciate. I will give it a go. As far as the plant. They will be due for a feeding in the next couple of days and I will bump up the cal mag and see what happens.
 

Dezracer

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I think things will be settling down here soon and I'll be able to update my shit more often. Personally I think things are going pretty well in my grows, especially since I don't have much time to tend to them.
I swapped some lights around the other night so there's now a single 1000w light in my vert room to finish out what's left in there. Once it's empty I'll be able to revamp it the way I want. I've got the 1000w 4x8 scrog going and two tents with a 600 in each. There's 5 plants in one (DOG, Purple Haze, Headband and Jack Herer) and two hydro trays with 14 smaller plants in the other (Jack Herer and White Widow). The scrog got flipped to 12/12 on Christmas Eve I think. The plants in the small tent are about two weeks behind the scrog and the ones in hydro are actually vegging still under a 600w HPS. I just put them in there recently and swapped the T5 lights for the HPS a few days ago with the intention of starting 12/12 in about another week.
I've got some clones started of the DOG, Purple Haze, Afghan Kush and Headband for the next round as well as a small DOG clone plant, a Blue Widow seedling plant and a Bubba Kush seedling plant in 1gal containers. Almost forgot the two little Cataract Kush plants in DWC that I topped last night...

Glad to see you're now okay Wally and it looks like everyone else has good things going on so I'm glad I popped in today to try and play catch up.

- Peace 600
 
ok, well get them bags seeds sexed and then move from there. I think decisions on numbers of gallons at this stage is not that important. You can get some great stuff from bag seed but then you can also get garbage and a lot of herms.
3 lights for that space is more than enough, you could probably run 2 and be fine. Once you have sex sorted, you are going to be looking at a reasonable vegging time.

Do you have 5 seeds? or a lot more and want to aim at getting 5 females?

Bag seed planted - grow out and sex - Clones from best plant - root clones then veg clones - Then you can start the flower. So this will take some time. If time is a factor you may be better shelling out and getting feminized seeds. Or trying the clone route again. The above process is going to be at least 2 months imo.

I've germinated about 15 seeds in case i get males or hermies, I got the seeds from some pretty good bud about 6 months back
 

DST

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Evening all, just dropped in for a read before crash time...

Good luck with it Johnny.

Laters,

D
 

curious old fart

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Shn- that bulb is dead. That is why i am using a MH bulb right now. The bulb was only a few months old. Some else on here suggested i run my shit through a surge protector (thanks to who ever that was. Sorry memeory aint what it used to be). I have one now. Hopefully that will stop the problem. I have been through 3 bulbs i think with in one year. Cant afford a new HPS yet. I have been giving cal mag. Following directions per bottle...1 tsp per gallon. I will up the dose for the this plant and see what happens. Not sure what you meant by "You say you don't see this on the lower leaves, because it starts there and progresses upwards" The lower leaves are fine...for now any way. I have had this happen on my other grows with these. It starts at the top and works it way down. It just seems to effect the fan leaves mostly. Thanks for the input. Thanks to you too Tryna.
I'm going to be the fly in the ointment. I think your problem is to much cal/mg which is causing build-up and nute lock. I just went thru the same problem and now I use the cal/mag only occasionally...like half strength once in 2 weeks...but let your plants tell you what they need.

:peace:
cof
 

justlearning73

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COF-LOL no you are not a fly in the ointment. I appreciate all feed back. The problem is i am not sure what they are telling me. This isnt the first time this has happened with this strain. Just not sure what i am doing wrong.
 
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