Kiki007
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Nice argument SNOW - that's totally valid.... thanks for the education in lighting today!!
1000w Coco Multi-strain Medicinal Grow
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t0rn
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The all new installment of the 'watch it grow!' catalog is Green Crack! There are a few gaps in the time frame as I was more concerned in getting flowering pictures of the other strains. I will be doing one of these for each of the strains so I have something to look back to as a reference and as I said before when the plants are done and harvested I'll have a time line of each.
This installment is for Stinkbudd!
Green Crack:
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This installment is for Stinkbudd!
Green Crack:
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stinkbudd1
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I just feel so so so happy right now i dont know what to do or say, i did not prepare s speach because i did'nt think i would get such wonderful treatment so i'll simply say thanks maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, they are looking very nice right now is it me or do'es your pheno have a lil sativa look to it? how long have they been in flower for?from the looks of it they should fill in real nice bro thanks for the insiders view much appreciated...PeaceThe all new installment of the 'watch it grow!' catalog is Green Crack! There are a few gaps in the time frame as I was more concerned in getting flowering pictures of the other strains. I will be doing one of these for each of the strains so I have something to look back to as a reference and as I said before when the plants are done and harvested I'll have a time line of each.
This installment is for Stinkbudd!
Green Crack:
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t0rn
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Day 37 for the oldest ladies.. shot with the HPS off and the 4ft floro up in the corner on.
Panorama:
Panchota:
Poison:
Hog:
Romulan:
Kryptonite:
Day 25
Hog A and B:
Took 1 picture, they look the same~
Day 18
Green Crack:
Hog C:
Day 4
Bagseed A Mexican Schwag (sex almost visable):
To be added on Friday.
Poison A:
Notice my rad training, all 4 nodes have been topped 5 days ago.
Panorama:
Panchota:
Poison:
Hog:
Romulan:
Kryptonite:
Day 25
Hog A and B:
Took 1 picture, they look the same~
Day 18
Green Crack:
Hog C:
Day 4
Bagseed A Mexican Schwag (sex almost visable):
To be added on Friday.
Poison A:
Notice my rad training, all 4 nodes have been topped 5 days ago.
t0rn
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Notice how far along the Green Crack is compared to its Hog counter-part at day 18. I've heard Green Crack could be a 6-7 week train. One way or the other I know I'll be pulling the Hog at about 8-9 weeks rather than the 8 listed.
Green Crack already has the bud clusters of the Hogs pictured in day 25, weird.
Green Crack already has the bud clusters of the Hogs pictured in day 25, weird.
t0rn
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The Green Crack around here and in the dispensaries has always been considered a sativa. They usually break it up (around here) as indicas, hybrids (S/I & I/S), and sativas. I always see Green Crack in the sativa side and I believe it's a 75:25 S/I mix. Nice and fruity/skunky, the fruit smelling mostly of mango and a hint of pineapple. It's starting to frost up a bit and is quite hairy now at day 18, super early.
t0rn
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Snow Crash
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Definitely some good work in there dude.
My plants don't look anywhere near as nice as yours do. I've been keeping a log of the run off from my own plants. My average run off on January Fifth was 2.6EC!!!! Which only show what is draining out. The EC average then dropped to 2.3, then to 2.1, and is now holding pretty steady around 1.7. The coco I used must have been super high in ppms to start, it's the only explanation I can come up with for why I continue to wash out residual even after gallons of run off over 3 weeks. The run off on some of my plants has had to drop a full 2.0 EC to get to the right level. My own garden was fed today with a 1.4 EC solution so that I got 1 gallon of run off from each plant (three times more than usual) and I'm at day 28/29 now, finally with the EC fairly under control. Some plants are still too hot.
Snapped some nighttime pictures with the camera tonight so everyone can see the results of the overly high ppm levels in my media over the last few weeks. Fortunately I've managed to keep flower production on pace and hope the next week goes well now that the nutrient profile is starting to fall in place.
I can only hope to have buds like yours man! You're main group is about 9 days ahead of these.
Warlock:
Left side: (Sour Kush in center)
Right side: (Mutant Sensi Star is the yellow one, Wappa back right, Chronic on far right)
My plants don't look anywhere near as nice as yours do. I've been keeping a log of the run off from my own plants. My average run off on January Fifth was 2.6EC!!!! Which only show what is draining out. The EC average then dropped to 2.3, then to 2.1, and is now holding pretty steady around 1.7. The coco I used must have been super high in ppms to start, it's the only explanation I can come up with for why I continue to wash out residual even after gallons of run off over 3 weeks. The run off on some of my plants has had to drop a full 2.0 EC to get to the right level. My own garden was fed today with a 1.4 EC solution so that I got 1 gallon of run off from each plant (three times more than usual) and I'm at day 28/29 now, finally with the EC fairly under control. Some plants are still too hot.
Snapped some nighttime pictures with the camera tonight so everyone can see the results of the overly high ppm levels in my media over the last few weeks. Fortunately I've managed to keep flower production on pace and hope the next week goes well now that the nutrient profile is starting to fall in place.
I can only hope to have buds like yours man! You're main group is about 9 days ahead of these.
Warlock:
Left side: (Sour Kush in center)
Right side: (Mutant Sensi Star is the yellow one, Wappa back right, Chronic on far right)
stinkbudd1
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Yea thanks for the info, thats why im here you know your shit man..I dont know why i thopught GC was more indica than sativa but anyway looking real good!!!Peace
t0rn
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As I read, that was the only thing that came to mind. I thought I seen you mention using Canna coco, could it be that they got a batch that wasn't rinsed to sea salts and whatnot? I'm sure they're RHP certified which means the coco does come at some exacting standards, such as being rinsed and buffered.
I'm surprised you don't do updates more often dude, you have a pretty mean crop going there. Cronic and Warlock are going to get much fatter than anything I have in my arsenal. I hear Star Bud has some amazing taste and Sensi Star is sort of the same right (assuming here, probably look like an ass)?
t0rn
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WHOOOO that Panchota is looking mighty nice, should be nicknamed aka Barney imo. the others are looking great as well. keep it up bro, cant wait for the next upcoming weeks in this thread.
Thanks mane~ I would but the Barney has been taken already
, what state you in mane? If you get good phenos from either of the Acapulco Gold or the Tangerine Dream I'd toss you my left nut for some clones.I need to get up on uploading some vids, decent video camera is on my list.
Snow Crash
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I actually found the Canna Coco to be the lowest quality coco I've come in contact with. I found sticks, little nuts/seeds, leaves from some tree, and bits of plastic trash in it. When I look at what the run off has been that's the only explanation I can come up with. What we know about Canna Coco comes from Canna themselves. My personal experience does not match their advertising hype.
I'm all botanicare cocogro all day every day from here on out for sure. I'm not one for updates and journals and what not really. I'd rather do a seed to harvest in a single post as my journal but I usually don't have the prettiest plants so I don't have much to show off. I spend most of my time educating growers on how not to do what I have done, lol...
Thanks for the props. The Wappa is really kicking some ass in there and that Sensi Star is shaping up to be something special. The leaves have this fine fuzzy coating of trichomes already. Of my "bag seeds" one of them (the really tall one back left) REAKS of lemon which is good news because my Greenhouse seeds Lemon Skunk from the previous grow I found these seeds in was fucking epic smoke.
I just don't want to hijack your thread with pictures of my own grow but I figured since we are both doing 1000w multi-strain grows this'd be a good place to demonstrate to people how great your nutrients are and how jacked my process as been trying to imitate your results.
"When this is all worked out you and I should get an apartment together."
"Maybe you should sit the next one out Champ."
t0rn
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CAUTION! It's about to get nerdy here. I want to compare the base nutes of GH's brand spanking new FloraDuo two part, and the Botanicare CNS17 line and see what each says we should be feeding our ladies. I'll be using each line at 20ml per gallon as suggested on the label (I don't personally use 20ml of Botanicare).
FloraDuo A and B
Their "parts" are mixed at 5ml per gallon.
3 to 1 as their aggresive grow formula as suggested on the label; 15ml A, 5ml B.
Assuming 200 ppm from the tap.
Total ppm 900.93
Total N 210.53
Total P2O4 65.79
Total P 28.95
Total K2O 289.48
Total K 240.27
Total Ca 168.42
Total Mg 20.13
Total Fe 2.11
Total Mn 1.32
Total B 0.84
Total Cu 0.32
2 to 2 as their suggested early bloom phase nute; 10ml A, 10ml B.
Assuming 200 ppm from the tap.
Total ppm 874.96
Total N 157.90
Total P2O4 131.58
Total P 57.90
Total K2O 263.16
Total K 218.42
Total Ca 128.95
Total Mg 39.74
Total Fe 1.58
Total Mn 1.05
Total B 0.74
Total Cu 0.26
1 to 3 as their suggest late bloom phase nute; 5ml A, 15ml B.
Assuming 200 ppm from the tap.
Total ppm 840.98
Total N 105.27
Total P2O4 197.37
Total P 86.84
Total K2O 236.84
Total K 196.58
Total Ca 89.47
Total Mg 59.34
Total Fe 1.05
Total Mn 0.79
Total B 0.63
Total Cu 0.21
FloraDuo A and B
Their "parts" are mixed at 5ml per gallon.
3 to 1 as their aggresive grow formula as suggested on the label; 15ml A, 5ml B.
Assuming 200 ppm from the tap.
Total ppm 900.93
Total N 210.53
Total P2O4 65.79
Total P 28.95
Total K2O 289.48
Total K 240.27
Total Ca 168.42
Total Mg 20.13
Total Fe 2.11
Total Mn 1.32
Total B 0.84
Total Cu 0.32
2 to 2 as their suggested early bloom phase nute; 10ml A, 10ml B.
Assuming 200 ppm from the tap.
Total ppm 874.96
Total N 157.90
Total P2O4 131.58
Total P 57.90
Total K2O 263.16
Total K 218.42
Total Ca 128.95
Total Mg 39.74
Total Fe 1.58
Total Mn 1.05
Total B 0.74
Total Cu 0.26
1 to 3 as their suggest late bloom phase nute; 5ml A, 15ml B.
Assuming 200 ppm from the tap.
Total ppm 840.98
Total N 105.27
Total P2O4 197.37
Total P 86.84
Total K2O 236.84
Total K 196.58
Total Ca 89.47
Total Mg 59.34
Total Fe 1.05
Total Mn 0.79
Total B 0.63
Total Cu 0.21
t0rn
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Botanicare CNS17 Grow, 20ml.
Assuming 200 ppm from the tap.
Total ppm 760.53
Total N 157.90
Total P2O4 52.63
Total P 23.16
Total K2O 105.27
Total K 87.37
Total Ca 239.47
Total Mg 26.32
Total Fe 0.00
Total Mn 2.63
Total B 0.00
Total Cu 0.00
Total Si 0.00
Total Su 26.32
Botanicare CNS17 Bloom (early flower), 20ml.
Assuming 200 ppm from the tap.
Total ppm 638.95
Total N 105.26
Total P2O4 105.26
Total P 46.32
Total K2O 157.90
Total K 131.05
Total Ca 181.58
Total Mg 26.32
Total Fe 0.00
Total Mn 2.63
Total B 0.00
Total Cu 0.00
Total Si 0.00
Total Su 60.00
Botanicare CNS17 Ripe (late flower), 20ml.
Assuming 200 ppm from the tap.
Total ppm 844.80
Total N 52.63
Total P2O4 263.16
Total P 115.79
Total K2O 210.53
Total K 174.74
Total Ca 115.79
Total Mg 26.32
Total Fe 0.00
Total Mn 0.05
Total B 0.00
Total Cu 0.00
Total Si 0.00
Total Su 26.32
Assuming 200 ppm from the tap.
Total ppm 760.53
Total N 157.90
Total P2O4 52.63
Total P 23.16
Total K2O 105.27
Total K 87.37
Total Ca 239.47
Total Mg 26.32
Total Fe 0.00
Total Mn 2.63
Total B 0.00
Total Cu 0.00
Total Si 0.00
Total Su 26.32
Botanicare CNS17 Bloom (early flower), 20ml.
Assuming 200 ppm from the tap.
Total ppm 638.95
Total N 105.26
Total P2O4 105.26
Total P 46.32
Total K2O 157.90
Total K 131.05
Total Ca 181.58
Total Mg 26.32
Total Fe 0.00
Total Mn 2.63
Total B 0.00
Total Cu 0.00
Total Si 0.00
Total Su 60.00
Botanicare CNS17 Ripe (late flower), 20ml.
Assuming 200 ppm from the tap.
Total ppm 844.80
Total N 52.63
Total P2O4 263.16
Total P 115.79
Total K2O 210.53
Total K 174.74
Total Ca 115.79
Total Mg 26.32
Total Fe 0.00
Total Mn 0.05
Total B 0.00
Total Cu 0.00
Total Si 0.00
Total Su 26.32
Snow Crash
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Canna Coco A+B during later vegetative growth on the light schedule they suggest 9.5 ml of A and B, 2ml of Rhizotonic, and 9.5ml of Cannazym at that 200ppm tap (mine is 60ppm btw).
Total EC: ~1.27
N:128ppm
P2O4: 151pm
P: 66
K2O: 103
K: 85
Ca: 188
Mg: 32
Su: 25
I think the big difference is the PK levels. Canna claims that their system requires lower potassium levels because the coco provides the Potassium as it breaks down. I've found this to not be the case and have always found Potassium deficiency during veg with their system. Including 5-10ml of Botanicare Cal-Mag plus 2-0-0 with 3% Ca and 1.5% Mg really makes a big difference in growth rates during veg as well.
The big difference during flowering is the addition of some CannaBoost with their system. At 0.1-0.1-0.1 not a lot of nutrition in there to change the ratios.
Supplementing the system with potassium is inevitable. I think the CNS 17 should be the base for comparison of all systems given your plants.
Total EC: ~1.27
N:128ppm
P2O4: 151pm
P: 66
K2O: 103
K: 85
Ca: 188
Mg: 32
Su: 25
I think the big difference is the PK levels. Canna claims that their system requires lower potassium levels because the coco provides the Potassium as it breaks down. I've found this to not be the case and have always found Potassium deficiency during veg with their system. Including 5-10ml of Botanicare Cal-Mag plus 2-0-0 with 3% Ca and 1.5% Mg really makes a big difference in growth rates during veg as well.
The big difference during flowering is the addition of some CannaBoost with their system. At 0.1-0.1-0.1 not a lot of nutrition in there to change the ratios.
Supplementing the system with potassium is inevitable. I think the CNS 17 should be the base for comparison of all systems given your plants.
mane2008
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lol im in va now not a med state broThanks mane~ I would but the Barney has been taken already
I need to get up on uploading some vids, decent video camera is on my list.
. i'll def give you detailed info on how they turn out though...