CaptainCAVEMAN
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Good point riddle. pretty funny too.
Molasses. A double edged sword?
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Medi 1
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ya molasses in hydro is a waste. its more to feed microbes and not for the sugar it has. roots cant uptake those big sized molecules. use your carbs as a foliar if you want real bennefit from them, molasses isnt a chelator but it does help the plant to move those foods more freely about the plant.
anonymuss
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https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/186821-molasses-every-thing-u-need.html
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Medi 1
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people confuse chelting with mobility. 2 diff things. you dont burn with molasses or other organics because it still needs to be turned into a useable form for the plant and is why its slower than sythetics and wont burn.,needs to be attached to a carbon mollecule first.
captain chronizzle
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Nobody mentioned that molasses has cal and mag. correct ratio is one tablespoon per gallon, once per week in last half of flower, stop at flush. Use in soil.
homebrewer
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This is what is actually in molasses:
- Calcium ----- .205%
- Iron -------- .0047%
Magnesium --- .242%
- Phosphorus -- .031%
- Potassium --- 1.464%
- Sodium ------ .037%
- Zinc -------- .0003%
- Copper ------ .0005%
- Manganese --- .0015%
- Selenium ---- .0178%
riddleme
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Amen Brother!!!
bobbypyn
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plants start to consume simple sugars in the soil more during flowering, which deprives the microlife. adding molasses prevents this and keeps your beneficial bacteria fed & happy all the way through flowering. good stuff, but make sure it's unsulfured.
of course I'm speaking from an organic perspective here. and for the record, the amounts of calcium, magnesium, (commonly deficient) and potassium are not negligible, and can be the difference in healthy plants and not healthy ones. it makes a big difference.
of course I'm speaking from an organic perspective here. and for the record, the amounts of calcium, magnesium, (commonly deficient) and potassium are not negligible, and can be the difference in healthy plants and not healthy ones. it makes a big difference.
anonymuss
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it does make a half decent micro nute supplement. zero leaf spots since its use
Hudsonvalley82
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Also with the micro nutes in there, those are rational supplemental percentages with held against most nutrients. Especially for 4 bucks a bottle. You also forgot to mention that blackstrap molasses (which is the only kind that is recommended to use) has a significant presence of nitrogen. I don't know why that isn't in the percentage analysis up there. Between the waste from the microbes digesting the carbs in there, the micro nutes, the K and IMO especially the N (which is usually over looking in the flowering stage) molasses is a fantastic cheap, and readily available supplemental nutrient for soil grows. That is why so many companies (schultz as an example) use molasses as their base for their fertilizers.
Hudsonvalley82
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And yes I burned my plants adding a tbsp ger gallon in conjunction with my nutrient regiment. I dial it back to 1 tsp per gallon if not a little less, same results without the burn.
anonymuss
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is 1 tbsp per gal a cherry dosage when flushing with pure water?
homebrewer
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There is zero nitrogen in molasses, that's why it's not listed. In regards to the trace minerals, those are very trace amounts of micro nutrients, much less than are found in your average bottle of plant food.
Got a link to support this statement?
anonymuss
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but my lips hurt real bad!
Hudsonvalley82
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Quote from another forum:
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molasses addition.
most expensive micronutrient blends sold as "plant booster" etc, are usually just overpriced bottles of blackstrap molasses!
nutrient information on a random jar of blackstrap;
Nutritional Information and Nutrition Facts:
Serving Size: 1Tbsp. (21g).
Servings per Container: About 24.
Amount Per Serving: Calories - 60;
Percentage Daily Values;
Fat - 0g, 0%;
Sodium - 65mg. 3%;
Potassium - 800 mg. 23%;
Total Carbohydrates - 13g, 4%;
Sugars - 12g, - soil organisms will love this
Protein - 1g,
Calcium - 2%; Iron 10%;
Magnesium 15%;
Water plants thoroughly with solution once every 7-14 days in spring and summer, every 14-30 days in fall and winter. Indoors, use 1/2 teaspoon per quart (1 teaspoon per gallon); outdoors, 1 teaspoon per quart (4 teaspoons per gallon). 32 fluid ounces (946ml). Contains 3.0% Water Soluble Nitrogen, 1.0% Available Phosphate, 5.0% Soluble Potash
NPK
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THere are multiple sources (and you don't have to look far at all) to find that Blackstrap molasses contains almost 3.6 grams of N per liter. You want sources for the shultz, read their product boxes and tech info "derived from molasses". Almost all organic fertilizers used in farming are Dependant upon molasses. It is a huge wealth of almost all nutrients, as it is like liquefied sugar cane compost with a ton of carbs in it. For a soil grow you will be wasting you money buying any of the other smoke and mirror carb crap out there. Which leads me to a even more important point is that on top of that soluble N, there is the N from the waste of the microbes that the plant can readily absorb as well. Its not like a bud sweller, is plant honey, the healthier the plant, the healthier the bud.
Heres a much more informative break down of just plain molasses, blackstrap is probably even more concentrated than this. This is just to prove that there is indeed N in molasses.
Quote:
molasses addition.
most expensive micronutrient blends sold as "plant booster" etc, are usually just overpriced bottles of blackstrap molasses!
nutrient information on a random jar of blackstrap;
Nutritional Information and Nutrition Facts:
Serving Size: 1Tbsp. (21g).
Servings per Container: About 24.
Amount Per Serving: Calories - 60;
Percentage Daily Values;
Fat - 0g, 0%;
Sodium - 65mg. 3%;
Potassium - 800 mg. 23%;
Total Carbohydrates - 13g, 4%;
Sugars - 12g, - soil organisms will love this
Protein - 1g,
Calcium - 2%; Iron 10%;
Magnesium 15%;
Water plants thoroughly with solution once every 7-14 days in spring and summer, every 14-30 days in fall and winter. Indoors, use 1/2 teaspoon per quart (1 teaspoon per gallon); outdoors, 1 teaspoon per quart (4 teaspoons per gallon). 32 fluid ounces (946ml). Contains 3.0% Water Soluble Nitrogen, 1.0% Available Phosphate, 5.0% Soluble Potash
NPK
3-1-5
THere are multiple sources (and you don't have to look far at all) to find that Blackstrap molasses contains almost 3.6 grams of N per liter. You want sources for the shultz, read their product boxes and tech info "derived from molasses". Almost all organic fertilizers used in farming are Dependant upon molasses. It is a huge wealth of almost all nutrients, as it is like liquefied sugar cane compost with a ton of carbs in it. For a soil grow you will be wasting you money buying any of the other smoke and mirror carb crap out there. Which leads me to a even more important point is that on top of that soluble N, there is the N from the waste of the microbes that the plant can readily absorb as well. Its not like a bud sweller, is plant honey, the healthier the plant, the healthier the bud.
Heres a much more informative break down of just plain molasses, blackstrap is probably even more concentrated than this. This is just to prove that there is indeed N in molasses.
Hudsonvalley82
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LOL forgot the link
http://www.suga-lik.com/molasses-table.html
http://www.suga-lik.com/molasses-table.html