Bushmaster and Gravity Questions? +rep for good advice

[capncash]

How was the quality? I would rather have quality over quantity.

Quality was virtually the same with treated side being denser and harder.

 

[dlively11]

whoever says bushmaster or gravity does nothing, has obviously never used either product.

exactly !!!

 

[cerberus]

Gawd, this hypocrite needs a bitch slappin'



I usually don't comment on your spin, but your hypocrisy needs addressing. You come into my thread and personally attack me. https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/267989-uncle-bens-gardening-tweeks-pointers-44.html

This is the drill with some of you - I question the product, you take offense, and then start attacking me personally as I lay it all out.....NPK values, un-necessary additives, misrepresentations by the vendor, blatant lies, high costs, lack of botanical value, etc. If you don't like my message, then put me on Ignore and continue to play someone's pimp. Simple enough, eh?

Just looking out for the folks,
UB

this little firestorm you got going here is NOT about you looking out for the folks. You belittle people, you throw knowledge around like a weight, never offering up any of its usefulness and only clubbing what you believe is ignorance. I understand your so god damn aggro that you truly think you’re offering help or good info to people here but you’re not. think about how your communicating your message If "looking out for folks" is really what your all about, then you should want to NOT alienate these folks. But simply, you do and it looks intentional. You will refuse to offer help other than negatives and detractors, you refuse help when people ask you for it, and when your confronted with FACTS that diametrically oppose your statement you drop your statement, (instead of acknowledging the new or corrected info).. Worse! when you have good info (which is probably often!) you spout off what is right but not why it’s right, you say what should be done but not how it should be done, or why. No my man, you got major knowledge, I'm assuming from your credentials, but you communicate like an ass. If you’re gonna tell me, “ive said it all before years ago”, then be good with that and stop altogether..


p.s. they would laugh you out not because its wrong (which it is) but because they would be extending you the same civility you seem to extend others. and dismiss you as nothing but an idiot without trying to explain constructively why you’re an idiot. Most hort pro's I know will laugh at stupid stuff and tell you why, because they want to help people grow.. Funny how MOST people WANT to HELP people..

 

[cerberus]

on a side note.. I don't aggree with the use of gravity, I have used it, and it does make heavier plants BUT I don't aggree with how it is done. (as i said earlier in this thread, I believe they use to many heavey metals to add mass) and quiet honestly I don't know if it is safe..

bushmaster I have never even looked at/into.

 

[Uncle Ben]

on a side note.. I don't aggree with the use of gravity, I have used it, and it does make heavier plants ....

That's because it contains lead, that's "why".....lot's of lead!

 

[hoagtech]

Lead? It says on the bottle they brew Sea kelp and ship it out with high concentrations of B1 B2 and B3 complex. This could be a cover up to using lead but I havent seen any eveidence of lead in Gravity. That would cause liver and kidney problems and even blindness. I heard you can spot lead sulfates in a bad growers batch because the trichromes will have a blu-ish haze. This happened in Germany last year. People were going to the hospital for blindness, and local police traced it back to a grower who used lead sulfate to bulk their harvest.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc0707784

 

[cerberus]

it says zinc when you check the site it lists for heavey metal content right on the bottle. on the bottom of the label, it will give you the whole metals content. us gov law makes em.

 

[hoagtech]

Ya I had trouble even finding it on that site. Heres the site if you guys have any luck: www.aapfco.org/metals.htm

 

[cerberus]

http://agr.wa.gov/pestfert/fertilizers/FertDB/prodinfo.aspx?pname=5252

 

[hoagtech]

That doesnt seem harmful though. The PPM danger zone per liter is 180 ppm for zinc. So its not unhealthy at least @ 1.8 ppm. But the zinc is in such a low dose its leads me to believe the active ingredients (sea kelp b vitamins) are whats doing the most for your plant.

 

[Uncle Ben]

One day while fishing I ran out of fishin' weights. My friend, and a helluva nice guy but somewhat of a doofus, had a bottle of Gravity in his tackle box. I wrapped my line around the bottle of Gravity, cast, and caught me the biggest catfish we've ever seen! That's why they call it Gravity, it's so heavy man. Folks say they've had branches break under their own weight after hangin' out with some of dat Gravity stuff!!!!!!!!!

 

[dlively11]

You know Unclue Ben you really are acting more and more like a complete clown. You have really lost virtually any credibility you may have ever had on this forum with anyone that has read any of these recent threads. Bravo my friend bravo ..... Good job sinking your own boat. Bricktop I can respect even if I dont agree with him, he atleast tries to be rational and logical. You just act like a troll in every thread .... you have lost complete site of what this forum is all about. I love to come in this forum to help and be helped. Feels good. You just spew negativity all around you uncontrollably.

 

[dlively11]

this little firestorm you got going here is NOT about you looking out for the folks. You belittle people, you throw knowledge around like a weight, never offering up any of its usefulness and only clubbing what you believe is ignorance. I understand your so god damn aggro that you truly think you’re offering help or good info to people here but you’re not. think about how your communicating your message If "looking out for folks" is really what your all about, then you should want to NOT alienate these folks. But simply, you do and it looks intentional. You will refuse to offer help other than negatives and detractors, you refuse help when people ask you for it, and when your confronted with FACTS that diametrically oppose your statement you drop your statement, (instead of acknowledging the new or corrected info).. Worse! when you have good info (which is probably often!) you spout off what is right but not why it’s right, you say what should be done but not how it should be done, or why. No my man, you got major knowledge, I'm assuming from your credentials, but you communicate like an ass. If you’re gonna tell me, “ive said it all before years ago”, then be good with that and stop altogether..


p.s. they would laugh you out not because its wrong (which it is) but because they would be extending you the same civility you seem to extend others. and dismiss you as nothing but an idiot without trying to explain constructively why you’re an idiot. Most hort pro's I know will laugh at stupid stuff and tell you why, because they want to help people grow.. Funny how MOST people WANT to HELP people..

 

[Uncle Ben]

PRODUCT: HUMBOLDT COUNTY'S OWN GRAVITY FLOWER HARDENER 0- .1 - 0

http://agr.wa.gov/pestfert/fertilizers/FertDB/prodinfo.aspx?pname=5252

Thanks for confirming what I've been pointing out all along, that it's worthless, another cannabis scam. You pinheads keep getting sucked in and you keep on keeping on LOL! Fuckin' hilarious!

Analysis reflects a whopping .010% of P in the form of (what I speculated in the first place), phosphoric acid and of course heavy metals. If you're gonna piss off your money on bottled water, save a few bucks and buy it at the grocery store or better yet, open up the tap at the sink.

Stupid is as stupid does boys.......

 

[dlively11]

PRODUCT: HUMBOLDT COUNTY'S OWN GRAVITY FLOWER HARDENER 0- .1 - 0



Thanks for confirming what I've been pointing out all along, that it's worthless, another cannabis scam. You pinheads keep getting sucked in and you keep on keeping on LOL! Fuckin' hilarious!

Analysis reflects a whopping .010% of P in the form of (what I speculated in the first place), phosphoric acid and of course heavy metals. If you're gonna piss off your money on bottled water, save a few bucks and buy it at the grocery store or better yet, open up the tap at the sink.

Stupid is as stupid does boys.......

Poor "OLD" Unclue Ben.... No one will listen while he throws his little tantrums on a pot forum ..... You are just sad now ... I suppose you rub two sticks together to make fire instead of wasting $ on gimmicks like matches or lighters ... lol

 

[dlively11]

For all of those who can look past the BS

Both of these products work VERY well. Dont listen to certain members "feelings and emotions" when they have ZERO experience with them.

I will post some side by sides of quite a few strains taken from the same mothers with and without bushmaster. Cant take pics of Gravity since it just makes the buds much harder and heavier. The pics you will atleast be able to see with your own eyes that these guys deliver on their promises. Snow Storm Ultra works great too FYI and is very cheap too. I might start a new thread just to get rid of all the static in here and people can see the results right away without having to listn tot he ranting of a crazy person

 

[riddleme]

Uncle Bens arguement is valid even if his approach might seem harsh. I have smoked pot laced with formaldihide, pcp, heroin, insecticides and yes even paraquat. 2 of my patients have cancer and I would never use anything that I did not know the exact ingredients that make up the formula whether it works as stated or not would not change my mind. I have never used the stuff your talking about and never would. what I use works and I know what's in it and I'm growing for quality not quanity IMO an extra % of wieght is not worth risking a patients health, my 2 cents not looking for an arguement nor am I kissing UB's ass

to add a tip in my experience if I have a plant that is going airie it helps to raise the lights

 

[dlively11]

Uncle Bens arguement is valid even if his approach might seem harsh. I have smoked pot laced with formaldihide, pcp, heroin, insecticides and yes even paraquat. 2 of my patients have cancer and I would never use anything that I did not know the exact ingredients that make up the formula whether it works as stated or not would not change my mind. I have never used the stuff your talking about and never would. what I use works and I know what's in it and I'm growing for quality not quanity IMO an extra % of wieght is not worth risking a patients health, my 2 cents not looking for an arguement nor am I kissing UB's ass

to add a tip in my experience if I have a plant that is going airie it helps to raise the lights

I hear what you are saying and that is easy to listen to. UB has gotten beyond harsh though and moved on to the realm of Charlie Sheen =)

 

[Uncle Ben]

I hear what you are saying and that is easy to listen to. UB has gotten beyond harsh though and moved on to the realm of Charlie Sheen =)

I'm "harsh" because you don't like my message.

So you think the non-partisan lab results conducted by the State of Washington Department of Agriculture is bullshit while the Humboldt money grabbers are legit?

In a nutshell, you're a fuckin' idiot.

UB

 

[hoagtech]

Ya but the analysis says the active ingrediants are sea kelp and vitamin B 123. Which are additives, not base nutrients. The NPK of Raw liquified seeweed is 0.24-0-0.2. This doesnt have a high NPK but theres no questioning the power of sea kelp during harvest. Gravity is actually allowed to get away with 100 times more zinc content determined by the wa dept of Ag before they determine it "unhealthy". Meaning any notion of metal content bulikng flowers in Gravity is thrown out the window.

(on a side note) @ dlively get off his back mane and stopping wasting yours/his time to make him look bad, It just makes you look like Dennis the Menace