BKB's 2nd Grow

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bekindbud

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Danielsgb said:
I'm pretty sure RiddMe explains it here. It is suffocating the roots to begin fermentation aka curing. Since it can't get nutrients from the soil it begins converting the N & sugars from fan leaves.


How to read your plants?
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Thanks Daniels....KK you might want to read all of RM3 threads...You will learn a lot of stuff but will take you a month of straight reading. Well worth it!!!
Illumination said:
Gene is why I played bass . . . went to the show and said ''Yep thats what I want to do for a living:twisted:'' The rest is history . . .
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I would say you had a good history of playing cause you were on Head Banger's Ball which is something to be proud of IMO. Plus you are a retired Bass Player who converted to a Bad Ass MJ Grower, Gene is NOT! KISS SHOWS ROCK! I been to a couple of Kiss concerts and my favorite was Ace, I was into his Smoking Guitar that would float and then he would get his other guitar and beam it down. Good shit.

I got a huge update today, will post it up a little later, I am going to prepare the drowning for Mrs. R.Ed Kush and feed a couple of plants and clean my tent out (sweep/dust/water/bleach wipe down)

Peace

BKB
 
bekindbud

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TaoWolf said:
How is your DWC plant today? Any issues with the big bucket?
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Everything is good, I think my MD grew more in one day since the res change, its crazy how fast they grow in Hydro, I notice new growth everywhere. I cant wait to see roots hit the res in the larger bucket. At least with that I can grow a mini beast! Especially a sativa like AG....Should be interesting! I am about to start drowning my R.Ed Kush plant using Molasses as a test to see how different it is from plain water. As far as the pH it seems to be rising a little in my MD res, not the AG res. Her roots are all white now!!! happy about that! Aquashield doesnt waste time!!!!

Peace

BKB
 
TaoWolf

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bekindbud said:
Everything is good, I think my MD grew more in one day since the res change, its crazy how fast they grow in Hydro, I notice new growth everywhere. I cant wait to see roots hit the res in the larger bucket. At least with that I can grow a mini beast! Especially a sativa like AG....Should be interesting! I am about to start drowning my R.Ed Kush plant using Molasses as a test to see how different it is from plain water. As far as the pH it seems to be rising a little in my MD res, not the AG res. Her roots are all white now!!! happy about that! Aquashield doesnt waste time!!!!
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Sounds all good bro - keep it up. I love the seeing the growth spurts too, esp. after giving them a fresh reservoir. It's rewarding to see.

A stable pH is excellent, it usually means you are in or close to the sweet-spot as far the plant feeding/drinking at the same rate (this is ideal). A slowly rising pH is not bad at all though and is more then norm.

With your EC meter, you can take readings over a few days and if the pH is still slowly rising and the nutrient strength (according to EC/ppm) is falling - the plant could do with a slightly stronger nutrient mix next time [more food:less water]. Conversely, if the pH is dropping over days and the nutrient strength is (according to EC/ppm) increasing - the plant could do with a slightly weaker nutrient mix next time [more water:less food]. If you record your EC/ppm readings when strength and pH is remaining stable along with plant age/size/strain, you are well on your way to knowing very exactly what the strain will need (according to EC/ppm) with any future grows.

Glad you like the AquaShield product - I'm keeping it as a part my regimen. Try a beneficial fungi product with cuttings/small plants as well sometime (I'm trying ZHO currently). Remember that little MD cutting I posted some pictures of with all those really nice fuzzy, white roots popping out all over the place? I had dipped the stem directly in ZHO powder a few days prior to all those roots popping out (I had also added some AS to the bucket). I'll let you know how those soluble MycoGro tablets work when I get them - would be great to find a single inexpensive product to cover adding both beneficial bacteria and fungus to a reservoir...
 
bekindbud

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Here is my update 2 days later....I did 2 other updates with lots of pics and lost connection when I was trying to submit it and lost it. So here is my update:

Root Porn (yeah my new porn...)

MD3 Mini-DWC (Res Change 2: 75% GB, 100%Micro, 75% BB, 50% AquaShield)
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Roots before 2nd Res Change

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Roots 2 days after Res Change

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Alcopolco Gold (DWC 3.5 Gallon Res with 6" Net Pot Lid that fits on 5 gal Home Depot Homer Bucket)

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Venom OG Kush (Veg)

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Herojuana OG#2 Clone (Veg)

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R.Ed Kush (Drowning) I am doing a test with drowning my plant with Molasses and Water instead of just water. I used 1-Tablespoon of Molasses to 1-Gal of Water.

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MD#3 (Flowering Day 21)

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Herojuana OG (Flowering Day 29)

I made it rain today on her and she was fed "N" she seems to like a lot of "N" but I dont want to give her too much cause I dont want to throw her system out of whack...

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Nancy (Day 18 Flowering)
Wow she is getting a lot bigger than I thought....I see a future root bound plant. Other than that she is FUCKING HEALTHY!!!

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Peace

BKB
 
TaoWolf

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I have a bottle of Clearex and it lists glucose and sucrose as 'non-plant food ingredients'. I was just quickly looking online and from what I can gather it works to flush/clean mineral salts on the same principle as molasses (and it's mixed to be isotonic).

Thought I'd mention it since you are on a molasses kick right now, thought it was interesting, and might be something familiar you could use in hydro (in case molasses isn't kosher for DWC)? I haven't opened the bottle I have yet but now you guys have gotten me interested in trying it.
 
4tatude

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TaoWolf said:
I have a bottle of Clearex and it lists glucose and sucrose as 'non-plant food ingredients'. I was just quickly looking online and from what I can gather it works to flush/clean mineral salts on the same principle as molasses (and it's mixed to be isotonic).

Thought I'd mention it since you are on a molasses kick right now, thought it was interesting, and might be something familiar you could use in hydro (in case molasses isn't kosher for DWC)? I haven't opened the bottle I have yet but now you guys have gotten me interested in trying it.
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correct this newbee if im wrong cause im asking not stating fact just my understanding

my understanding of using molases for final was to increase usable carbs to the ripening bud so additional resin/thc/bud weight could be accomplished while the plant also released its build up of salts due to the fact it was not being fed nutes not necesarily because the molases was introduced. is my thinking right or have i once again misunderstood what i was reading?

re the Clearex i just flushed mine with clearex in their 3rd week of 12/12 cause of a problem, thought itd be possably mineral salts. i ran 24 hr flush and only gained coupld hundred ppms in res. i dont know what the real results are using the clearex as it was just to flush between nute changes.but i will be using it in final for a week or so and will find out then i guess
 
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4tatude said:
correct this newbee if im wrong cause im asking not stating fact just my understanding

my understanding of using molases for final was to increase usable carbs to the ripening bud so additional resin/thc/bud weight could be accomplished while the plant also released its build up of salts due to the fact it was not being fed nutes not necesarily because the molases was introduced. is my thinking right or have i once again misunderstood what i was reading?

re the Clearex i just flushed mine with clearex in their 3rd week of 12/12 cause of a problem, thought itd be possably mineral salts. i ran 24 hr flush and only gained coupld hundred ppms in res. i dont know what the real results are using the clearex as it was just to flush between nute changes.but i will be using it in final for a week or so and will find out then i guess
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I'm no expert and was hoping to be educated here a bit - I haven't even used molasses before. I'm just familiar with the theories I've happened to have read about on here like support for microbes which in turn support the plant... breaking the ionic bonds of mineral salts that have built up, etc... I'm not really intimately familiar with the increased resin production part (always assumed that part was rather hyped as a sales-gimmick to be honest).

Keep me updated if you can remember man - I'm right behind you with trying it both for mid-grow cleaning and planning on using it at the end.
 
hazorazo

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Grow Meister BKB, I like that shit.....haha!! Great looking plants, nice job training them, really bushy looking!
 
BuddyJesus

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That update is awesome "Grow-Meister BK!! I actually am using that blackstrap molasses during my whole flowering period. 2 table spoons per gallon of water. A buddy of mine uses this during his whole flowering period along with flushing and his shit is always some killer shit! I'm kind of doing a test on molasses Vs. Sweet i'm using Sweet on 2 plants and the molasses on 2. Anyway Plants are looking gorgeous! Can't wait to see them finished out! And your DWC plants look so happy! Good shit man!

Cheers

~Buddy J~
 
bekindbud

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4tatude said:
correct this newbee if im wrong cause im asking not stating fact just my understanding

my understanding of using molases for final was to increase usable carbs to the ripening bud so additional resin/thc/bud weight could be accomplished while the plant also released its build up of salts due to the fact it was not being fed nutes not necesarily because the molases was introduced. is my thinking right or have i once again misunderstood what i was reading?

re the Clearex i just flushed mine with clearex in their 3rd week of 12/12 cause of a problem, thought itd be possably mineral salts. i ran 24 hr flush and only gained coupld hundred ppms in res. i dont know what the real results are using the clearex as it was just to flush between nute changes.but i will be using it in final for a week or so and will find out then i guess
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I drown my plants with plain tap water in the past, I figure why not try it with Molasses to see if it makes it a better cured product of smoke. I cough my balls off when smoking bud and I am looking for ways to have a smoke that is smooth and fully cured. Drowning is the way to go. I have tried the traditional 2 weeks of flushing and feeding with no nutes and Drowning IMO is way better. I add molasses to my plants anyway during flowering.

I am a nOOb and if you know or done anything with molasses please teach and tell me, I want to learn and try new things. Just trying everything out to see what works best for me.

Peace

BKB
 
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Now this is just my opinion and not bashing on anyone's choices...but clearex is only sugar water...chemically there is nothing that helps release salt ionic bonds in it...this is the actual thing it does...it binds nitrogen and makes it almost completely unavailable to the plant...this makes the plant look lighter or even yellow causing one to perceive it as"Oh they are yellowing quickly so the clearex must really work good at clearing out the salts". The water alone will remove more salts as it has a higher capacity to hold the dissolved salts as it doesn't already have sugar dissolved in it...but the sugar will bind with the remaining N blocking it so therefore it looks like it leached more out when in fact it did not

This is why I asked you to up the molasses in your drowning water as to see if it would speed the yellowing and to know if it added or subtracted anything in the final product ...

Hope it helps...

Namaste':leaf:
 
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