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After I first read about the 72-hours of darkness thing I Googled for the study. It literally took days, and days to find the abstract that then had to be paid for to read and download the full research study. It is out there, but you would never have found it in the short period of time you searched.
If not for a total computer failure in early December where I lost years of collected links and downloaded files and untold numbers of bits of growing information I could post the study for you. But after it being to hard to find the first time I have not attempted to duplicate my efforts to find it again.
If you would prefer to not accept the findings mentioned in the piece of the abstract that's totally cool and the gang with me, but it is irresponsible and reprehensible for you to attempt to convince others that the findings of a scientific research project are wrong just because you don't believe them to be accurate. You could cost a lot of people a lot of potency if they believe what you say.
And as I have repeatedly said, you have relied strictly on human sensory capabilities rather than on high tech equipment to evaluate what you have tried and of the over 3,000 strains that are known to exist you have only tried your human sensory based experiment on 10 to 12 strains.
Your sampling size was miniscule. It would be like if you sampled one single bottle of Merlot from one single vineyard/wine maker and based on sampling that single bottle from one single vineyard/wine maker judged every single Merlot that exists. In fact what you did would be worse since at least in the case of wine human senses are only what are used to judge quality. In the case of testing for levels of, percentages of THC gas chromatography and mass spectrometry equipment is relied on, not the capabilities of human senses.
Refer to all my examples.
Yes I do C&P a lot, but have you ever stopped to consider why? Until my computer failure I had an enormous amount of stored information, some in link form and others in stored files. They were things that I had learned over the many years I have grown and things that often were asked about on sites like this and where most responses were ones like yours, opinion based and most times very short and very vague where things were not explained, where nothing was actually taught. So rather than reply like others I would go to my stored info and use it so people would receive detailed factual information that taught them things and explained things.
That is an infinitely more precious commodity to have on a site like this than someone who forms a personal opinion based on virtually nothing in relation to actual research findings and then in short vague messages insists that their personally formed opinion is more accurate than actual research performed by people who are very highly educated and whose life work it is to perform such research.
I have only started to rebuild all that I have lost, and some of it I might never find again, but regardless of it being C&Pd each and every piece of it is of infinitely more value to someone in need of information than a short hand typed personal opinion of self created belief from anyone, which of course includes you.
When you create apples and oranges comparisons that only muddies the water and it proves absolutely nothing. If the topic is horticultural related no information whatsoever about brewing beer will ever come close to applying. Attempting to use an analogy in an attempt to draw a comparison in order to show a similarity in some respect or another between two completely different things is ludicrous. If only used in the most broad of ways, say to point out how at times things can be done different and as far as the human sensory capabilities can tell no difference will be noticed would be one thing. But if there is any attempt made to take the analogy beyond that when about two totally different completely unrelated things, then a line of absurdity has been crossed.
Only referring to plant matters, what might not seem or appear to make a difference to someone in no way means it does not make a difference to plants. I have four family members with degrees in horticulture. Two of them grow and two of them are their wives. I often entertain them with the various personal opinions and personal beliefs that people like you share and claim to be factual and their normal response is basically, why do I waste my time discussing things with people who have absolutely no factual knowledge of plants and plant functions?
Saturday was my oldest niece's birthday. She is one of the four members f my family with a degree in horticulture. While her husband, also with a degree in horticulture and a damn good grower, was grilling the steaks I was telling him some of the things people say here and he was laughing like I was Rodney Dangerfield delivering my best jokes. He said what I have said many times, that people need to stop spending time on sites like this and put an equal amount of time in taking horticulture courses at a local community college or local community Jr. college or wear out a library card and the Google search engine so they could learn some true facts about plants in general that would then carry over to their growing of cannabis and they would become much, much better growers.
On another growing site I normally have a tab open to and that I go back and forth between this one and it I made that suggestion some time back. The other day I received a PM from a member saying he did what I suggested and started taking a class in horticulture soon after I suggested that people should do it and he said almost from the very first day he was learning that things he had believed to be true and that people on sites like this always claim to be true are pure bunk.
Most people on sites like this, including growers that would be considered to be very good growers by most members, have no idea of how little they actually know.
If you are providing others with medication you should care if what you do is done the very best way possible regardless of what anyone else might think or believe. You should be ethical enough and caring enough to do the best you possibly can to find every single detail about growing, drying and curing that has factually been proven to result, even if only in a very minor way, to result in a higher quality final product and you should do them all and you should be on a continual search to learn more, as I am, or else you should not be doing what you are doing because clearly you do not care enough about providing people in need with the very best medication they can possibly get if it means taking a step or doing something you just decided on your own is unnecessary even though it has been proven to be at least to some degree beneficial.
Clearly you are not a cuter and paster' of factual information. Instead you ignore any and every fact that is inconvenient to you, proven things that would cause you to need to do just a little bit more than you feel like doing so you are a writer of opinions and self created beliefs and shortcuts.
You are so very typical for a high percentage of members of sites like this. You like to believe that what you do are real experiments and real tests, but there is no real true experimentation taking place and there is no real testing being done, and at the same time you reject the findings of professional researchers, highly educated people whose life work it is to research and study and perform actual experiments with and then conduct actual testing on cannabis plants.
For anyone to actually believe that their playing around with cannabis plants actually equates to or betters the research that is performed by professional researchers, highly educated people whose life work it is to research and study and perform actual experiments with and then conduct actual testing on cannabis plants is the epitome of arrogance.
I can live with that. Heck, I have to live with that about many things discussed here because so many people have become propagandized by myths and urban legends and misconceptions and half-truths and total inaccuracies and personal opinions and personally created beliefs and old hippie folklore and others want and need to believe they know more than professional researchers do that very often I am left with no other option than to agree to disagree. And while I do HATE the whole +rep system and the like thing I do have to admit that I do enjoy how often a message that comes with one or the other is like the following; "I am sure it gets old, but thanks for being here for folks that really do want to learn."
Just knowing that there are at least a few people here who want to learn is all that keeps me here.
Yep, you will hand type your personal opinions and your self created beliefs and I will likely still C&P facts.
There you go again, attempting to rely on your worn out tactic of attempting to create a false reality in hopes of bolstering your weak position, while at the very same time out of hand dismissing my personal experience.
What has been scientifically proven to be a fact is not, as you wish to define it and as you wish others would believe it to be, a; "theory." It is instead just as I called it, proven fact. As as for your alleged personal experience, well if it is supposed to carry any weight than mine should carry equal weight and as I said in an earlier message, I have done the 72-hours of darkness thing many times and in some cases the difference was at best negligible, but then other times the difference was more than just considerable. That fits with the research studies findings that; "SOME" strains will see as much as a 30% increase in levels of THC, which also means others will see a lesser increase and also that possibly some will have an increase that is negligible at best, possibly not enough for the human sensory system to detect but still enough to be detectable if tested using high technology gas chromatography coupled with mass spectrometry.
That would be good ... especially if they tried it on more than just 10 or 12 of the over 3,000 strain currently in existence. If so then there would be some people who, like you and your 10 to 12 strain attempts, would say they could not tell any difference at all and some that would say that they could tell was a minor difference and some that would say they could tell there was a fairly considerable difference and others that would say they could tell a tremendous difference.
) the pic is from week 3 / 4 i think 
