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whodatnation

whodatnation

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bleach? I didn't know that was needed. I didn't bleach the stuff for my flower room and stuff looks ok, is this suppose to kill bad fungi and bacteria?
 
DST

DST

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whodatnation said:
I am a DOG :lol: speaking of dog, mine is growing nicely :-)

Rinsing out hydroton for my veg hydro im building and on the third rinse the water is still dirty! looks like another rinse is needed.
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Is it an unruley pheno, or a shortish one....my DOG Mum is the unruley pheno, grows beastley branches that harden up nicely and produce solid nugs, that are big and dank. I think it takes the best of the OG and the Headband, just me 2 cents. Either way I am sure you'll like the fuel, lol.
 
whodatnation

whodatnation

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its on its second set of three fingered leafs so I don't see any domonat characteristics yet...

EDIT: I lied, I just looked and its still on 1 blade leafs... GROW GD!
 
Heads Up

Heads Up

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Duchie, as cof said, the first couple of weeks you don't need any nutes...and yes, I was talking about your bone and blood meal.

Cof, I don't understand about the scott's you got. I have had very little bark or any crap in the bags I've purchased. I also go through my soil thoroughly. I add small amounts into a thirty gallon tote and hand sift it, add more, sift more. I break up any big pieces and remove any crap I find.
 
billcollector99

billcollector99

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whodatnation said:
bleach? I didn't know that was needed. I didn't bleach the stuff for my flower room and stuff looks ok, is this suppose to kill bad fungi and bacteria?
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I was just under the impression when reusing equipment; buckets, tubing, airstones, hydroton etc. that you are supposed to sterilize it and use a bleach/water solution to clean them... I dunno I could be misinformed...
 
shnkrmn

shnkrmn

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I'm a dirty hydro grower. I don't use any sterilants when preparing hydroton. I read a great tip in another thread about 'ton though; zip it into a mesh bag and throw it in the washing machine. Guy said his stuff came out super clean and all the small broken bits broke down and rinsed away.

It had spring freshness too!
 
Heads Up

Heads Up

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Since I grow for myself, I don't sterilize anything. I have about a dozen gallon jugs I use to water my plants. Whatever nute mixture is in them, when they are empty, I give them a quick rinse and fill them up again. I'm sure there is residual stuff in every jug. When I take my cuttings, I use my trimming scissors and a razor blade to remove any unwanted leaves and lightly scrape the stem before dipping it in cloning gel, no sterilizing anything. I did it with these cuttings and they are doing fine. I have never taken a cutting and put it directly into soil, I did this time and they look better than clones in a bubbler and these plants were three weeks into flower when I took the cuttings. I have them in party cups with a baggie for a dome to keep the humidity up.

My killing fields has finally started to grow. If it keeps it up within the next couple of days she will be the tallest plant in the garden. A few of the lower fan leaves on a couple of the girls are turning yellow, time for a full dose of grow nutes this weekend and maybe a half strength dose in another couple of weeks. Some of these babies need twelve weeks so I want to give them the extra N so they don't yellow out to early on. That leaves me six plus weeks for the earliest strain until harvest and longer for a few others.
 
whodatnation

whodatnation

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Sounds good hu. Iv always been too scared to put fresh clones directly into soil and Im glad you had success with it :-)

On a side note, I just got my fishbone meal and will be mixing up some super soil today! wootwoot! It will cook for thirty days befor I use it. Cant wait to see this stuff in action! if it does better or just as good as my guano kelp tea I'll be pleasantly surprised and will convert. Off to mix up some soil peeps!

:peace:
 
stinkbudd1

stinkbudd1

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whodatnation said:
Sounds good hu. Iv always been too scared to put fresh clones directly into soil and Im glad you had success with it :-)

On a side note, I just got my fishbone meal and will be mixing up some super soil today! wootwoot! It will cook for thirty days befor I use it. Cant wait to see this stuff in action! if it does better or just as good as my guano kelp tea I'll be pleasantly surprised and will convert. Off to mix up some soil peeps!

:peace:
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Send me a recipe peeps one i can do without cooking! Just a very good soil mix..
 
stinkbudd1

stinkbudd1

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whodatnation said:
Sounds good hu. Iv always been too scared to put fresh clones directly into soil and Im glad you had success with it :-)

On a side note, I just got my fishbone meal and will be mixing up some super soil today! wootwoot! It will cook for thirty days befor I use it. Cant wait to see this stuff in action! if it does better or just as good as my guano kelp tea I'll be pleasantly surprised and will convert. Off to mix up some soil peeps!

:peace:
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Hey now. whats popp'n whodat? hey send ya boy a cool recipe for just a good soil mix one i can do without cooking..i have most of all the things needed lime, blood and bone meal,bat guano,perlite,etc..Hook a brotha up peeps..lol
 
whodatnation

whodatnation

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stinkbudd1 said:
Hey now. whats popp'n whodat? hey send ya boy a cool recipe for just a good soil mix one i can do without cooking..i have most of all the things needed lime, blood and bone meal,bat guano,perlite,etc..Hook a brotha up peeps..lol
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I read this on IC...

"Here are some tried and true recipes for getting started in organic growing. Pick one of the first two soiless mix recipes for your grow medium. Then, choose a nute recipe that will work best for what you have available.

Enjoy...

Here are two very good organic soiless mixes...

LC's Mix is great for any stage of growth. You can germ seeds in it, grow mothers in it, root clones in it as well as veg and flower in it.

LC’s Soiless Mix #1:
5 parts Canadian Spaghnam Peat or Coir or Pro-Moss
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost
Powdered (NOT PELLETIZED) dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
...Wal-Mart now sells worm castings.

Or, if you use Pro Mix or Sunshine Mix...
LC's Soiless Mix #2:
6 parts Pro Mix BX or HP / Sunshine Mix (any flavor from #1 up)
2 parts perlite
2 parts earthworm castings
Powdered (NOT PELLETIZED) dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
If you use a 3 qt. saucepan as “parts” in the amounts given above, it equals about 1 cu. ft. of soiless mix and you can just dump in a cup of powdered dolomite lime.
But, a "part" can be anything from a tablespoon to a five gallon bucket. Just use the same item for all of the "parts".

Now for the plants organic food source

Choose one of these organic plant food recipes to add to LC's Soiless Mix.

RECIPE #1
If you want to use organic nutes like blood, bone and kelp...
Dry Ferts:
1 tablespoon blood meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
2 tablespoons bone meal per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
1-tablespoon kelp meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix or Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract as directed
1 tablespoon per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of Jersey Greensand to supplement the K (potasium) in the Kelp Meal and seaweed extract.
Mix all the dry ferts into the soiless mix well and wet it, but don't soak it with Liquid Karma and water @ 1 tbs./gal. Stir and mix it a few times a week for a week or two so the bacteria can get oxygen and break down the bone meal and make it available. And don't let the mix dry out, keep it moist and add water as needed. It'll also have time to get the humic acids in the Liquid Karma going and the dolomite lime will be better able to adjust the pH of a peat based mixture too.
With this recipe, all you need to do is add plain water until harvest.
When I'm working with seeds, I punch a hole in the bottom of 16 ounce cups and fill them with plain LC's Mix. Lightly wet the mix in the cups and germ one seed in each cup. At the same time I mix enough LC's mix along with the blood/bone/kelp to fill all the 3 gallon flower pots I'm going to use for the grow. After about two weeks, the seedlings and the blood/bone/kelp mix are ready. I transplant the seedlings into the 3 gallon pots and just add water until harvest.
When you go to flower and pull up the males, save the mix in the pots. It is ready to be used again immediately. Just remove the root ball and transplant another seedling into it.

RECIPE #2
If you want to use guano in your soil mix...
Bongaloid's Guano Mix.
Use all these items combined with one gallon of soil mix.
1/3C hi N Guano (Mexican Bat Guano)
1/2C hi P Guano (Jamaican or Indonesian Bat Guano)
1TBS Jersey Greensand
1TBS Kelp Meal


RECIPE #3 (My favorite)
If you want to use guano tea and kelp...

Guano Tea and Kelp:

Seedlings less than 1 month old nute tea mix-
Mix 1 cup earthworm castings into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
Add 5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses.
Use it to water your seedlings with every 3rd watering.

Veg mix-
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG)
1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican)
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 1 cup of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with every 3rd watering.

Flowering nute tea mix:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 2 cups of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with EVERY watering.

You can use queen size knee high nylon stockings for tea bags. 3 pair for a dollar at the dollar store. Tell 'em you use them for paint strainers. Put the recommended tea in the stocking, tie a loop knot in it and hang it in your tea bucket. The tea should look like a mud puddle. Agitate the bag in the water vigorously. An aquarium pump and air stone will dissolve oxygen into the solution and keep the good bacteria (microherd) alive and thriving. Let it bubble a day or two before you use it. If you find you are making too much tea and having to throw it out, use 2 1/2 gallons of water and cut the nute amount by half.


RECIPE #4
Three Little Birds Method
40 gallons used soil
4 cups alfalfa meal
4 cups bone meal
4 cups kelp meal
4 cups powdered dolomite lime
30 pound bag of earthworm castings . . .
That’s the basic recipe . . .
However we also like to use
4 cups of Greensand
4 cups of Rock Phosphate
4 cups of diatomaceous earth


RECIPE #5
Fish and Seaweed (This is sooo easy)

For veg growth…
1 capful 5-1-1 Fish Emulsion
1 capful Neptune's Harvest 0-0-1 Seaweed or Maxicrop liquid
1 gallon H2O

For early flowering…
1 tbs. Neptune’s Harvest 2-3-1 Fish/Seaweed
1 gallon H2O

For mid to late flowering…
1 tbs. Neptune’s Harvest 2-4-1 Fish
1 gallon H2O



Hope this helps
 
Bobotrank

Bobotrank

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Thanks guys. It's also stink stink and stink. Carbon filter isn't doing shit. Had to buy Ona gel and Ozone. I think my filter is shot, and inline fan is leaking air. Lameness.

btw Whodat, sick soil recipes up there. I'm looking to switch things up. Suffering from an Mg def right now that's got me sweatin' lol
 
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