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stinkbudd1

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Right on whodat i had to copy and save that , it is very good info think i'll go with the guano mix since i already have most of that on habd what is jersy greensand and kelp meal where can i get it?
 

duchieman

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I read this on IC...

"Here are some tried and true recipes for getting started in organic growing. Pick one of the first two soiless mix recipes for your grow medium. Then, choose a nute recipe that will work best for what you have available.

Enjoy...

Here are two very good organic soiless mixes...

LC's Mix is great for any stage of growth. You can germ seeds in it, grow mothers in it, root clones in it as well as veg and flower in it.

LC’s Soiless Mix #1:
5 parts Canadian Spaghnam Peat or Coir or Pro-Moss
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost
Powdered (NOT PELLETIZED) dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
...Wal-Mart now sells worm castings.

Or, if you use Pro Mix or Sunshine Mix...
LC's Soiless Mix #2:
6 parts Pro Mix BX or HP / Sunshine Mix (any flavor from #1 up)
2 parts perlite
2 parts earthworm castings
Powdered (NOT PELLETIZED) dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
If you use a 3 qt. saucepan as “parts” in the amounts given above, it equals about 1 cu. ft. of soiless mix and you can just dump in a cup of powdered dolomite lime.
But, a "part" can be anything from a tablespoon to a five gallon bucket. Just use the same item for all of the "parts".

Now for the plants organic food source

Choose one of these organic plant food recipes to add to LC's Soiless Mix.

RECIPE #1
If you want to use organic nutes like blood, bone and kelp...
Dry Ferts:
1 tablespoon blood meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
2 tablespoons bone meal per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
1-tablespoon kelp meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix or Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract as directed
1 tablespoon per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of Jersey Greensand to supplement the K (potasium) in the Kelp Meal and seaweed extract.
Mix all the dry ferts into the soiless mix well and wet it, but don't soak it with Liquid Karma and water @ 1 tbs./gal. Stir and mix it a few times a week for a week or two so the bacteria can get oxygen and break down the bone meal and make it available. And don't let the mix dry out, keep it moist and add water as needed. It'll also have time to get the humic acids in the Liquid Karma going and the dolomite lime will be better able to adjust the pH of a peat based mixture too.
With this recipe, all you need to do is add plain water until harvest.
When I'm working with seeds, I punch a hole in the bottom of 16 ounce cups and fill them with plain LC's Mix. Lightly wet the mix in the cups and germ one seed in each cup. At the same time I mix enough LC's mix along with the blood/bone/kelp to fill all the 3 gallon flower pots I'm going to use for the grow. After about two weeks, the seedlings and the blood/bone/kelp mix are ready. I transplant the seedlings into the 3 gallon pots and just add water until harvest.
When you go to flower and pull up the males, save the mix in the pots. It is ready to be used again immediately. Just remove the root ball and transplant another seedling into it.

RECIPE #2
If you want to use guano in your soil mix...
Bongaloid's Guano Mix.
Use all these items combined with one gallon of soil mix.
1/3C hi N Guano (Mexican Bat Guano)
1/2C hi P Guano (Jamaican or Indonesian Bat Guano)
1TBS Jersey Greensand
1TBS Kelp Meal


RECIPE #3 (My favorite)
If you want to use guano tea and kelp...

Guano Tea and Kelp:

Seedlings less than 1 month old nute tea mix-
Mix 1 cup earthworm castings into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
Add 5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses.
Use it to water your seedlings with every 3rd watering.

Veg mix-
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG)
1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican)
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 1 cup of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with every 3rd watering.

Flowering nute tea mix:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 2 cups of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with EVERY watering.

You can use queen size knee high nylon stockings for tea bags. 3 pair for a dollar at the dollar store. Tell 'em you use them for paint strainers. Put the recommended tea in the stocking, tie a loop knot in it and hang it in your tea bucket. The tea should look like a mud puddle. Agitate the bag in the water vigorously. An aquarium pump and air stone will dissolve oxygen into the solution and keep the good bacteria (microherd) alive and thriving. Let it bubble a day or two before you use it. If you find you are making too much tea and having to throw it out, use 2 1/2 gallons of water and cut the nute amount by half.


RECIPE #4
Three Little Birds Method
40 gallons used soil
4 cups alfalfa meal
4 cups bone meal
4 cups kelp meal
4 cups powdered dolomite lime
30 pound bag of earthworm castings . . .
That’s the basic recipe . . .
However we also like to use
4 cups of Greensand
4 cups of Rock Phosphate
4 cups of diatomaceous earth


RECIPE #5
Fish and Seaweed (This is sooo easy)

For veg growth…
1 capful 5-1-1 Fish Emulsion
1 capful Neptune's Harvest 0-0-1 Seaweed or Maxicrop liquid
1 gallon H2O

For early flowering…
1 tbs. Neptune’s Harvest 2-3-1 Fish/Seaweed
1 gallon H2O

For mid to late flowering…
1 tbs. Neptune’s Harvest 2-4-1 Fish
1 gallon H2O



Hope this helps
Tonnes! Great post whodat. Gonna post it in my journal for future reference, and to share, thanks. I think I'll go with the first soil less mix because it has Canadian Sphagnum in it! No really, it's because I already have a block of it ready to go, along with a couple of bricks of coir. The rest I snatch up tomorrow and I'm good to go. :)

Edit. That word sphagnum always makes me laugh. Damn subliminals!
 

whodatnation

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Yet another copy and paste..... I debated posting it and not sure why lol getting toasted over here :bigjoint: His updated mix has no rock phosphate and uses fishbone meal. I like this list because not allot of people need to mix 12 cu feet @ a time :shock: might want to :-P but not practical :finger: so I though some other people might like this if they haven't seen it yet :mrgreen:




Subcool Super Soil

-> Full Batch (12 cubic feet)

8- Large bags (1.5 cubic ft. ea) High quality Organic soil with Mycorrhizae
(i.e. Roots Organic)

25-50 lbs. Organic Worm castings
5 lbs. Steamed Bone Meal
5 lbs. Bloom Bat Guano (Fruit Bat – High P)
5 lbs. Blood Meal
3 lbs. Rock Phoshates
¾ Cup Epsom Salts
1 Cup Sweet Lime (Powdered Dolomite)
1 Cup Azomite (Trace Elements)
2- TBS Powdered Humic Acid

Run off on this mix after a 4 week sitting with 7 ph water is 6.3

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-> 1/2 Batch (6 cubic feet)

4 - Large bags (1.5 cubic ft. ea) High quality Organic soil with Mycorrhizae
(i.e. Roots Organic)

12.5-25 lbs. Worm Castings
2.5 lbs. (40 oz) Steamed Bone Meal (0-10-0)
2.5 lbs. (40 oz) Bat Guano (Fruit Bat – High P)
2.5 lbs. (40 oz) Blood Meal
1.5 lbs. (24 oz) Rock Phosphates
3/8 Cup (1/4 cup + 1/8 cup) Epsom Salts
1/2 Cup Sweet Lime (Powdered Dolomite)
1/2 Cup Azomite (Trace Elements)
1 TBS Powdered Humic Acid

Run off on this mix after a 4 week sitting with 7 ph water is 6.3

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-> 1/4 Batch (3 cubic feet = 5184 cubic inches)

2 - Large bags (1.5 cubic ft. ea) High quality Organic soil with Mycorrhizae
(i.e. Roots Organic)

6.25-12.5 lbs. Worm Castings
1.25 lbs. (20 oz) Steamed Bone Meal (0-10-0)
1.25 lbs. (20 oz) Bat Guano (Fruit Bat – High P)
1.25 lbs. (20 oz) Blood Meal
.75 lbs. (12 oz) Rock Phosphates
3 TB Epsom Salts
1/4 Cup Sweet Lime (Powdered Dolomite)
1/4 Cup Azomite (Trace Elements)
1.5 tsp Powdered Humic Acid

Run off on this mix after a 4 week sitting with 7 ph water is 6.3


-> 1/8 Batch (1.5 cubic feet = 2592 cubic inches)

1 - Large bag (1.5 cubic ft.) High quality Organic soil with Mycorrhizae
(i.e. Roots Organic)

3-6 lbs. Worm Castings
.625 lbs. (10 oz) Steamed Bone Meal (0-10-0)
.625 lbs. (10 oz) Bat Guano (Fruit Bat – High P)
.625 lbs. (10 oz) Blood Meal
.375 lbs. (6 oz) Rock Phosphates
1 TB + 1.5 tsp. Epsom Salts
1/8 Cup Sweet Lime (Powdered Dolomite)
1/8 Cup Azomite (Trace Elements)
.75 tsp Powdered Humic Acid

Run off on this mix after a 4 week sitting with 7 ph water is 6.3

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duchieman

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^^Excellent. Great use of smileys too. Very well thought out, strategically placed and effective.

Edit. Agnostic Dyslexic Insomniac; Someone who stays up all night wondering if there really is a Dog. !dog si tadohw
 

duchieman

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So I had a interesting chat with one of RIU's resident electricians and he responded with this great reply. Here's the first part. I featured it and the rest in my journal, or you can visit the thread, but I thought you guys would like it.

Experienced Electrician here to answer any and all Growroom ELECTRICAL QUESTIONS

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by duchieman
on 03-30-2011 at 09:22 AM (9 Views)

Originally Posted by IAm5toned
to understand why a ballast needs a cool down period, first you need to understand how an HID lamp works, on startup.

hid lamps have a bimetallic element on the filament that switches the current between the preheat filament and the arcing tube

the load characteristics of a preheat filament, and an arc tube, are completely different.. a preheat filament is a resistive load, and arc tube is an inductive load

a resistive circuit, at room temperature, when you apply power to it, has a resistance of 0 ohms, untill the filament begins to heat up and act as a resistor, which in turn heats up the arc tube, and when it gets hot enough, the bimetallic element switches the current to the arc tube... but the key here, is that 0 hms on the preheat circuit... because electricity, flowing through 0 ohms of resitance, generates whats known as inrush current. Flipping the switch on a circuit that has 0 ohms is equivalent to blowing a dam up.. the lake empties quick! but it only lasts for, quite literally, nanoseconds at best.. because the preheat element heats up the instant you start passing power through it, and when it heats up, its resistance rises proportionate to the amount of heat... now that you know what is happening during lamp startup, so here's why a ballast needs a cool down period between lamp starts:
a hot ballast is too hot for the inrush current on a cold lamp, over time, the inrush will destroy the insulation between the ballast windings on the main transformer... it mkes the insulation brittle over time... the ballast isnt engineered to be restriked (restrike= hot start) at all, its engineered to run for a min of 8 hours with a 30 min cooldown.. and thats kind of an industry standard between major manufactuers.

they (lighting manufacturers) say 30 mins, for warranty reasons... because they know if your constantly restriking your ballasts... they wont last... and they wont have to honor a warranty




 

DST

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Agreed. Nice soil post as well whodat, thanks for the info.

Have a good un, suns away here today, cloudy and overcast....come on, Spring is here, brng back the big 6 in the sky please.

Peace, DST



Love the Porn bill. Outstanding jod Done....

cindy
 

DST

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I only ever put my cuttings directly into soil. I let them sit in a shot glass for a bit before I do it, but always in soil. Unless you get a bubble trapping the stem you should get a very high succes rate with this. I water with rhizo at the beginning and only add more if it dries up a bit. I'll show you my new cloning pots where I do 4 at a time. Will take pic and brb (i always wondered what brb was, and now I am all grown up and have used it in a sentence!)

Since I grow for myself, I don't sterilize anything. I have about a dozen gallon jugs I use to water my plants. Whatever nute mixture is in them, when they are empty, I give them a quick rinse and fill them up again. I'm sure there is residual stuff in every jug. When I take my cuttings, I use my trimming scissors and a razor blade to remove any unwanted leaves and lightly scrape the stem before dipping it in cloning gel, no sterilizing anything. I did it with these cuttings and they are doing fine. I have never taken a cutting and put it directly into soil, I did this time and they look better than clones in a bubbler and these plants were three weeks into flower when I took the cuttings. I have them in party cups with a baggie for a dome to keep the humidity up.

My killing fields has finally started to grow. If it keeps it up within the next couple of days she will be the tallest plant in the garden. A few of the lower fan leaves on a couple of the girls are turning yellow, time for a full dose of grow nutes this weekend and maybe a half strength dose in another couple of weeks. Some of these babies need twelve weeks so I want to give them the extra N so they don't yellow out to early on. That leaves me six plus weeks for the earliest strain until harvest and longer for a few others.
BOBO and Billy throwing it down !! cracking buds guys.
Indeed the B Boys are giving it there all! Lovely stuff indeed.
 

DST

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These pots basically give me nigh on 100% success rate with cloning. Very shallow trays (I think the less substrate the better) and you can get 4 in there no problem. I just use plastic to seperate the square off, makes it easier for removing them when they have rooted. If the roots ever get tangled plants really don't mind if you clip them....in fact it's probably a good thing.


You can see the second tray, I have already removed two of the clones that rooted, and the others are now showing through as well..
https://www.rollitup.org/members/dst-168272/albums/winter-2010-19056/1523445-img-1670/

And here's a pic of a Bolo Kush clone I snipped a few weeks into flower. Rooted very quickly, and once it has gone through getting rid of the flower there will be some nice veg regrowth. This never yellowed one bit.

Nice whiteys showing through.


Peace, DST
 

andrewcovetsall

Active Member
Anyone have some Skunk #1, Hawaiin Skunk, or Skunk Haze pictures? i got a mix pack going and i wanna try to identify the different skunks. Seedsman skunks
 

duchieman

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Hey 600! How bout a little Jack Hammer. Day 68 12/12. Another few weeks to go on her.
IMG_3889.jpgIMG_3894.jpgIMG_3888.jpgIMG_3875 cropped.jpg
^^^Babies. Jack Hammer X Jack Hammer

Got some stuff on the go and getting ready for my weekend update. Keep on Rockin the free (600) World!

:peace:Duchie
 
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