little ones are very light green all together, also some brown freckle spots on som..

budtoker0987

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The little ones in the middle there are 5 Rasberry Cough, and 1 NY PD. They're very light green in color all over the plant. In some of the older leaves I have these brown spots on the leaves. It actually almost completely killed a leaf or two on a couple and I just pulled them after they were about 50% dead looking. Any help from someone who may know whats going on would be very much appreciatedbongsmilie
I was thinking cal def? for the spots...

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budtoker0987

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It looks like the pH may be off. Try to check the pH of your substrate asap.
I use RO water and it's all ph'd at 6.5. on the nuts
I add cal-mag plus when i'm watering and a lil superthive
I dont add cal-mag when I feed them,(should I?) which right now is half tsp of FloraNova Grow, 1ml floralicious, 2 tsp diamond nectar, 1/4 tsp superthrive
 

Mother's Finest

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The pH of the liquids you give the plants and the pH of the substrate they're growing in are two different readings. To test soil pH, you can use a probe-type meter ($15+), a capsule-type test kit (~$6) or test the runoff using a liquid pH tester. When testing runoff, allow the water to sit in the soil for at least a few hours before squeezing a few drops out to test. The sooner after watering you test runoff pH, the more you are testing the pH of the original liquid instead of the soil's pH.
 

budtoker0987

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The pH of the liquids you give the plants and the pH of the substrate they're growing in are two different readings. To test soil pH, you can use a probe-type meter ($15+), a capsule-type test kit (~$6) or test the runoff using a liquid pH tester. When testing runoff, allow the water to sit in the soil for at least a few hours before squeezing a few drops out to test. The sooner after watering you test runoff pH, the more you are testing the pH of the original liquid instead of the soil's pH.
OK that's kind of what I thought you meant my substrate :) I do actually have a soil ph meter, I will test that tonight and let you know for sure. I did recently test some runoff but it was the runoff that came out right away as I was watering, BUT that was from my larger plants. The only thing I know FOR SURE is that I put 6.5ph water and nutes into the lil ones. I just transplanted them from party cups to one gallons on Friday and they've reacted well as far as perkiness but still very light green and getting those spots. I think I will be feeding the lil ones tonight, I'll do a soil test before and after feeding and will test the runoff and get back to you. I really appreciate you stopping to respond man thank you!! ++ repbongsmilie
 

budtoker0987

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Alright so, I didnt water them today cuz they were still pretty moist and heavy. I did test the soil PH in all of them tho and came back with 6.4 - 6.6 and mind you I was using the 20 dollar probe one that just has a stick meter so I could be slightly off but I THINK thats about right. And all the liquids I put in are ph'd at 6.5. When I looked at them today they got about an inch taller each and it looks like they're getting SLIGHTLY darker green, I hope so. I did JUST transplant these on Friday into Fox Farm Ocean Forest and I know that comes pretty stable at what the soil should be. I'll post more pics in a day or two when I see some results.
The larger 4 are Wonder Woman's I tested them too and this may be a better reading of what is to come.
Soil test before i fed them tonight: 6.8 - 6.9
Soil test after i fed them tonght: 6.4 - 6.8
OG Kush (did not feed or water them tongight): 6.6 - 6.8
On some Old leaves of the Wonder Womans there are what look like those same dark spots. It's easier to see them if you take a leaf off and put it up the light, then they're clear as day. The WW are lush green tho.
It just always seems to be SOMETHING :wall::wall::wall::wall:
I would just really love to figure these spots out
 

Mother's Finest

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Alright so, I didnt water them today cuz they were still pretty moist and heavy.
It's nothing definite but the way this statement sounds makes us wonder if perhaps you're overwatering a little. It shouldn't be the cause of your main issues but it's something to consider. Watering cycles should go from the soil dripping a few drops when a handful is squeezed (& that damp all the way to the bottom), to the top half of the soil in the pot being completely bone dry. Healthy, mature plants can usually survive for weeks with absolutely no water at all.

We'll be looking forward to seeing how the runoff tests. Just wait at least an hour after watering, press down on the soil surface and collect the runoff.
 

budtoker0987

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It's nothing definite but the way this statement sounds makes us wonder if perhaps you're overwatering a little.
When I transplanted them on Friday, which was watering day as well, I did give them a good amount of water until i got some runoff to make sure everything got wet. Today was just day two, I expect probly tomorrow it they will be ready. I messed up with my wonder womans like that. First 4 plants EVER on a table wtih a 400w MH buld hanging above them all ghetto LOL, and my buddy said you'll water every other day. And i did exactly that and I for surely over-watered them. I've noticed now, at least i think, that once you transplant into one gallons, at first it takes about 3 days or possibly a lil more depending between waterings. Once those roots get growing then i know they NEEDED water every other day for sure. I've got it down to "feel" now instead of guessing. SO i'll have the numbers for ya tomorrow hopefully then.

I did wanna show you these numbers and see what you thought? My Wonder Womans all get watered and fed at 6.5 on the nuts. I tested the runoff that basically just came out at the bottom in the tray on them and two of them were at 5.7 and one at 6.0. I have noticed on the old leaves they have some of the brown freckly marks on them too. I know you said to test the runoff the other way and i totally forgot about that so I'll have to do that still. bongsmilie Ur then man, thanks!!:eyesmoke:
 
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