420 + What?

The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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NP88 said:
It's looking like this conversation must be continued tomorrow, so I'm going to smoke some jwh 18 right meow!

I'll look for the studies that I found suggesting the relationship between CB receptors and immunity. I'm not trying to argue with you by any means. I just want to make a decision that is in my best interest.

I have an autoimmune disease, so you can imagine why this is of concern to me. 2cb fo life yo! ;)
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How vague. Why don't you tell me some more. :)

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NP88

NP88

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actually, that autoimmune disease is a great reason to smoke jwh.

My main concern is if JWH series chemicals are safe for daily use :)
 
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BlazedMonkey

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Ive heard rumors that JWH # can give you cancer but ive never seen any studies. Is there some chemistry reason why we would suspect that it could?

WKUK kicks ass :P
 
NP88

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The Cryptkeeper said:
Now this is a far more substantiated claim.
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WHAT? I am so confused. Weed can contribute to the formation of cancer when SMOKED. No one can deny that.

JWH may cause cancer regardless if it is vaprozied or smoked. I havent done enough research in that area.


By the way, just smoke 12mg of jwh 18 on a0.4g blend of mostly damiana, some mullein, and lavander for taste. I feel GREAT! I need legal cannabis scented oil that is safe to smoke (which probably doesnt exist) and this break could be no sweat.
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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NP88 said:
WHAT? I am so confused. Weed can contribute to the formation of cancer when SMOKED. No one can deny that.

JWH may cause cancer regardless if it is vaprozied or smoked. I havent done enough research in that area.


By the way, just smoke 12mg of jwh 18 on a0.4g blend of mostly damiana, some mullein, and lavander for taste. I feel GREAT! I need legal cannabis scented oil that is safe to smoke (which probably doesnt exist) and this break could be no sweat.
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JWH-018 has a naphthalene ring. Look naphthalene up.
 
NP88

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so any metabolizm of jwh can have some carcinogenic effects? I know when MJ is burned, it released benzene, which is also a carcinogen. When it is vaporized, benzene is not released.
 
Daath

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NP88 said:
so any metabolizm of jwh can have some carcinogenic effects? I know when MJ is burned, it released benzene, which is also a carcinogen. When it is vaporized, benzene is not released.
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I have also read that mary-j has anti-cancer properties.
 
JealousGreen

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Indeed. Cannabidiol (CBD) has been proven to have anti-cancerous/tumor fighting capabilities. Thereby mitigating any problems that may have arisen due to inhaling carcinogens via burning plant material. Nature knew we were gonna need to smoke this shit until technology made smoking obsolete. Mother nature in her infinite wisdom has our back.

Funny she didn't do that for tobacco... I guess we shouldn't be smoking that?
 
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BlazedMonkey

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JealousGreen said:
Indeed. Cannabidiol (CBD) has been proven to have anti-cancerous/tumor fighting capabilities. Thereby mitigating any problems that may have arisen due to inhaling carcinogens via burning plant material. Nature knew we were gonna need to smoke this shit until technology made smoking obsolete. Mother nature in her infinite wisdom has our back.

Funny she didn't do that for tobacco... I guess we shouldn't be smoking that?
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^^Yup THC too i believe, multiple long term case studies have found that smoking JUST MJ has no correlation with an increase in cancer. Some studies even show a lower cancer rate among just weed smokers.
Yup tobacco will ruin that for you but to each his own right?
 
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Michael Phelps

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Yo NP88 be careful with those JWH compounds... The guy that owns the 711 by my house smoked this bum out that's always chillin at the 711 with some spice and the guy ended up having a gnarly seizure and they had to call the ambulance. Also this lady i work with's son had a bad reaction to JWH as well, he smoked it and "overdosed" as the doctor put it... Anyways, i guess after smoking it he passed out for a solid 36 hours and he ended up having to be in the hospital for 3-4 day's after.

Just be careful bro :D
 
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BlazedMonkey

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Didnt someone on these boards say their cannaboid receptors were fried and they couldnt get high off weed as a result of heavy JWH usage?
 
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HIDDEN42O

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BlazedMonkey said:
Didnt someone on these boards say their cannaboid receptors were fried and they couldnt get high off weed as a result of heavy JWH usage?
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Um this happened to me for a couple weeks. Me and the wife went through 7g of various jw's in 3 - 4 days.

Went back to smoking dank like silver haze/master kiush and it barely did anything. Felt like I was DTing.....

They started working again though.... Now I only smoke a lil jw here and there.....
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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Michael Phelps said:
Yo NP88 be careful with those JWH compounds... The guy that owns the 711 by my house smoked this bum out that's always chillin at the 711 with some spice and the guy ended up having a gnarly seizure and they had to call the ambulance. Also this lady i work with's son had a bad reaction to JWH as well, he smoked it and "overdosed" as the doctor put it... Anyways, i guess after smoking it he passed out for a solid 36 hours and he ended up having to be in the hospital for 3-4 day's after.

Just be careful bro :D
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Spice should not be compared to pure JWH, and I somehow doubt 'this lady's son' had a proper milligram scale, assuming his bad reaction was with pure JWH. :D
 
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Michael Phelps

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The Cryptkeeper said:
Spice should not be compared to pure JWH, and I somehow doubt 'this lady's son' had a proper milligram scale, assuming his bad reaction was with pure JWH. :D
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Yeah i guess that's true, spice has potential to have various other things in it... But for sure he def didnt make the spice, im sure he just bought if from a gas station or something like that.
 
NP88

NP88

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I make my spice, and I am in the process of figuring out the ideal dosage for myself.14 mg of Jwh 18 and 14 mg of Jwh 73 seem to have a similar effect to a .3 bowl pack of good bud. At this rate, it would take me forever to smoke even just one gram of Jwh. I am aware that there see are risks associated with Jwh usage. I certainly will not be smoking Jwh like I smoked weed.
 
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HIDDEN42O

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I couldn't get "high" with 28mg. Kinda disappointed me with the amount of JW's I had to smoke to reach desired level. I never weighed my amounts as I wasn't too concerned with the outcome.

But I swear I was smoking 80 - 90mg piles.

I had to have been. 7g divided between me and my girl. 8th of jw's for me. In 3.5 days. 1000 milligrams a day. Divided by roughly 8 smokes per day.

So yeah. It was somewhere between 80 - 125mg a smoke.

I like it but I couldn't get past the amount of plastic I had to inhale. I gagged and dry heaved alot from the unnaturalness of it. :bigjoint:
 
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BlazedMonkey

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HIDDEN42O said:
Um this happened to me for a couple weeks. Me and the wife went through 7g of various jw's in 3 - 4 days.

Went back to smoking dank like silver haze/master kiush and it barely did anything. Felt like I was DTing.....

They started working again though.... Now I only smoke a lil jw here and there.....
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Yes yes! I knew my memory was working :P
Good to hear your receptors just needed a break ;)
 
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