Everybody Please Help!

[djruiner]

Ok so say I put it down to 5.8 PH and down to between 500-750ppm and I should see an improvement do you think???

I would flush with just ph'd water first than go 1/4 strength nutes and slowly add over next few weeks...

bingo...that should take care of the majority of your issues...just keep track of that ph because it will tend to drift up...and remember that the damage thats there wont get any better...keep an eye on new growth and make sure its green and healthy

 

[Nutes and Nugs]

isnt Canna Vega A+B made for coco grows?
Sorry if not, I've read so many pages on this site my mind tends to get boggled.
I had some ugly leafs but needed more nutes. I left the ugly leafs on the plants and they are nice looking plants today.
Don't cut em down yet.

 

[OpSec420]

I know this is not the kind of answer you want but I think it kind of needs said- addressing the overall problem of not yet having a successful grow:

I would start with whatever you want for the first grow if you have the money and what you know on paper seems to back it up. When that failed I would go to the absolute most basic and simple methods people use. Aka, smart pots, ffof medium, sog, aircooled inline hood, negative airpressure room ventilation, 18/6 for 5 weeks then 12/12, using only ff tiger bloom (during flower) at a fraction of what ff recommends. Growing an 'easy' strain, and keeping on top of ph. That + common sense things like no light leaks, being super clean about the grow room and following the KISS strategy WILL grow you bud. The funny thing about 'weed' is that it wants to get you nice and high. It really does want to grow. Your not fighting some natural process and if you do the absolute minimum (like above there) the shit will grow and bud and get you high. Most of the stuff on these forums is about increasing yields and getting you even more high. It is real easy to get a little too far into all of that mentally and forget that your just trying to provide an environment for the shit to grow in. There are a million little things that I don't think anyone can really teach you online or that you can read on a meter. Those things are, imo, the fundamentals which you only can really grasp by doing it and starting simple. My humble opinion.

 

[djruiner]

I know this is not the kind of answer you want but I think it kind of needs said- addressing the overall problem of not yet having a successful grow:

I would start with whatever you want for the first grow if you have the money and what you know on paper seems to back it up. When that failed I would go to the absolute most basic and simple methods people use. Aka, smart pots, ffof medium, sog, aircooled inline hood, negative airpressure room ventilation, 18/6 for 5 weeks then 12/12, using only ff tiger bloom (during flower) at a fraction of what ff recommends. Growing an 'easy' strain, and keeping on top of ph. That + common sense things like no light leaks, being super clean about the grow room and following the KISS strategy WILL grow you bud. The funny thing about 'weed' is that it wants to get you nice and high. It really does want to grow. Your not fighting some natural process and if you do the absolute minimum (like above there) the shit will grow and bud and get you high. Most of the stuff on these forums is about increasing yields and getting you even more high. It is real easy to get a little too far into all of that mentally and forget that your just trying to provide an environment for the shit to grow in. There are a million little things that I don't think anyone can really teach you online or that you can read on a meter. Those things are, imo, the fundamentals which you only can really grasp by doing it and starting simple. My humble opinion.

so your advice is to drop his entire dwc system and switch to soil?let me take a stab at this...smart pots,ffof,sog,inline hood,neg pressure room...this is your setup i take it? im sure this guy has the basics down and your telling him to start over...how is that good advice?how is you telling him a completely different way to grow good advice for his problem?

 

[OpSec420]

so your advice is to drop his entire dwc system and switch to soil?let me take a stab at this...smart pots,ffof,sog,inline hood,neg pressure room...this is your setup i take it? im sure this guy has the basics down and your telling him to start over...how is that good advice?

Its not my set up it is just, imo, the most basic possible setup. I think if he had the basics down he would have had a successful grow by now. How is that not logical?

how is you telling him a completely different way to grow good advice for his problem?

Because I think you start with just letting a plant survive and move up the competence/complexity/yield/potency ladder from there. If 1 is simplest and 10 is most complex, and you skip from the start right up to 7 or 8 and get consistently bad results, it just makes sense to start over again at 1. I don't think there is good advice for his current problem that can be given online or over the phone etc because there are just too many variables. I think this situation calls for in-person training type of thing and no one is going to do that. Instead, online, it is him attempting to describe and show what his assessment is of the problem, and then others responding with possible solutions to a problem they can't even be sure has been properly assessed, much less sure that their solutions will be properly applied.

This is no offensive to the OP. Just a justification for why I think the best advice for someone who has not had a successful grow using fairly advanced methods, is for them to the simplest possible methods and go up from there. And I really think, am almost positive, that once this grower does start from the absolute basics, masters them before moving up a step in complexity, he will never have the same problem he is having now again. He will know how to prevent it and if it does happen will know the best way to deal with it. Just my opinion, as strongly worded as it may be.

 

[djruiner]

Its not my set up it is just, imo, the most basic possible setup. I think if he had the basics down he would have had a successful grow by now. How is that not logical?


Because I think you start with just letting a plant survive and move up the competence/complexity/yield/potency ladder from there. If 1 is simplest and 10 is most complex, and you skip from the start right up to 7 or 8 and get consistently bad results, it just makes sense to start over again at 1. I don't think there is good advice for his current problem that can be given online or over the phone etc because there are just too many variables. I think this situation calls for in-person training type of thing and no one is going to do that. Instead, online, it is him attempting to describe and show what his assessment is of the problem, and then others responding with possible solutions to a problem they can't even be sure has been properly assessed, much less sure that their solutions will be properly applied.

This is no offensive to the OP. Just a justification for why I think the best advice for someone who has not had a successful grow using fairly advanced methods, is for them to the simplest possible methods and go up from there. And I really think, am almost positive, that once this grower does start from the absolute basics, masters them before moving up a step in complexity, he will never have the same problem he is having now again. He will know how to prevent it and if it does happen will know the best way to deal with it. Just my opinion, as strongly worded as it may be.

i agree with you on most of your points...but theres no reason for him to just give up on his current setup...hydro growing to me is not more advanced then soil growing. and i would hate for him to switch his whole setup and then still have the same problems. to be honest i had more success when i first started a nft setup then i had when i first started growing in soil.my first grow setup was a 30 site nft system and it went from start to finish without any problems...and nft is one of the hardest systems to maintain. after that is when i started growing in soil and had issues one after the other...ph buffer issues..salt buildups..nute lockout...issues i never had with my hydro setups. each grow and grower is different and i would rather narrow down his issues and get his current setup right then just tell him to start over. i can show you a list of people on here that started their first grows in dwc/hydro systems and had success from the start and at the same time a list of soil growers with wilted dead plants