Dr Greenthumbs G13

Dr Gruber

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I worked with a guy who owned a big Marketing firm and you guys would be surprised at what they use to make a product look better. Have you ever had a bottle of beer that looked as frosty as the ones in adverts? Should we sue the Beer companies now for false advertising? lol. I took some pictures with a mini bic and a regualr sized one and it really doesnt make that much difference.Try it yourselves. The mini is I beleive less then an inch shorter then a regular (i measured but cant remember now) either way you measure it that is one big bud regardless.
 

a dog named chico

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I worked with a guy who owned a big Marketing firm and you guys would be surprised at what they use to make a product look better. Have you ever had a bottle of beer that looked as frosty as the ones in adverts? Should we sue the Beer companies now for false advertising? lol. I took some pictures with a mini bic and a regualr sized one and it really doesnt make that much difference.Try it yourselves. The mini is I beleive less then an inch shorter then a regular (i measured but cant remember now) either way you measure it that is one big bud regardless.
my whole point about the lighter is that is the only bud shot i have seen of his "pure G-13", kinda fishy IMO, like when you see a picture of an alien in a tabloid..
 

tip top toker

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I worked with a guy who owned a big Marketing firm and you guys would be surprised at what they use to make a product look better. Have you ever had a bottle of beer that looked as frosty as the ones in adverts? Should we sue the Beer companies now for false advertising? lol. I took some pictures with a mini bic and a regualr sized one and it really doesnt make that much difference.Try it yourselves. The mini is I beleive less then an inch shorter then a regular (i measured but cant remember now) either way you measure it that is one big bud regardless.
So you're saying that when KFC were sued for using an inacurate representation of one of their burgers on their poster, and lot the case, that this never happened? You can be sued for false advertising or misrepresentation etc, you just have to accept that as that's just the way the world works right now. And half an inch is half an inch. I know that in this instance no point has been made to state that it is a normal bic lighter, technically, logically, there's nwot wrong, i'm just saying that the way the legal system and gudges work, it could easily go either way.
 

Dr Gruber

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So you're saying that when KFC were sued for using an inacurate representation of one of their burgers on their poster, and lot the case, that this never happened? You can be sued for false advertising or misrepresentation etc, you just have to accept that as that's just the way the world works right now. And half an inch is half an inch. I know that in this instance no point has been made to state that it is a normal bic lighter, technically, logically, there's nwot wrong, i'm just saying that the way the legal system and gudges work, it could easily go either way.
I must be living in a cave because i didnt know KFC was sued for that...and i didnt know they even had burgers.
I guess it could go either way..but i dont think this will be a case that will come up.
I think its kinda small potatos in the big picture.
 

a dog named chico

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I must be living in a cave because i didnt know KFC was sued for that...and i didnt know they even had burgers.
I guess it could go either way..but i dont think this will be a case that will come up.
I think its kinda small potatos in the big picture.
agreed, but the rule in America is "you can sue any person, for anything, at anytime" (my government teacher used to say that). lol you never see a MJ breeder being brought up on false advertising charges.

I will admit i joined this thread late, it was only after seeing the article in HT that i started to question things. I e-mailed the doc asking to run an un-biased grow of his G-13 and would post here on RIU.org if he supplied the genetics. his response "We already have a bunch of people doing journals on the G13 already at various forums. Thanks anyway". . I then asked hims for links and more bud shots...lets see what he says...

Im not bashing Dr.GT, I just want the truth..
 

tip top toker

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I must be living in a cave because i didnt know KFC was sued for that...and i didnt know they even had burgers.
I guess it could go either way..but i dont think this will be a case that will come up.
I think its kinda small potatos in the big picture.
As i say, i'm just here playing devils advocate. But yes, KFC were sued (mcdonalds might have been as well, can't recall) and kfc do indeed sell burgers, only thing i bother buying from them, the rest is all plain nasty :D well ok, the burgers are hardly great either haha, but the sauce can be good, mmm.

With regard to it being a case that comes up, once the rewards for filing the case come up, i' sure it will happen, due to the nature of what it is though i'm sure it would be very hard to convince a court of the justification for your settlement demand etc, people file lawsuits to get a big payoff. Not to mention the guys buying it are stoners, last thing they can be bothered to do is start talking legalesse and getting courst and such involved in their life, let alone what it is relating to :lol: I'm now jsut sat pondering the law on whether it is even possbile to "mislead" someone with the name of a strain. Unless more modern companies have mapped the exact genetics of their strains, then the only method of "proof" as ot whether something was or was not sold as something it wasn't, would be to base it on the opinion of a demographic. If 75% of stoners have plant A and someone buys plant A and it turns out to be plant B, the 75% with a different item would be a good indication, but other than that nothing really. Sorry, getting stoned and just kinda spinning off all over the shop here, ignore me :D

All i know is that i just have to look at the list of pending patent lawsuits to know that anything is possible haha
 

Dr Gruber

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agreed, but the rule in America is "you can sue any person, for anything, at anytime" (my government teacher used to say that). lol you never see a MJ breeder being brought up on false advertising charges.

I will admit i joined this thread late, it was only after seeing the article in HT that i started to question things. I e-mailed the doc asking to run an un-biased grow of his G-13 and would post here on RIU.org if he supplied the genetics. his response "We already have a bunch of people doing journals on the G13 already at various forums. Thanks anyway". . I then asked hims for links and more bud shots...lets see what he says...

Im not bashing Dr.GT, I just want the truth..
I know of a few of the threads Doc talked about. There are 2 going at MMMA site, one in soil, the other is hydro. ICMAg has one but its not tiltled G13, and i beleive THCFARmER has one without a title as well. Also, if you go to Docs site and look in the photo gallery he has pics of the G13 in flower.
 

Biggybuds

Active Member
agreed, but the rule in America is "you can sue any person, for anything, at anytime" (my government teacher used to say that). lol you never see a MJ breeder being brought up on false advertising charges.

I will admit i joined this thread late, it was only after seeing the article in HT that i started to question things. I e-mailed the doc asking to run an un-biased grow of his G-13 and would post here on RIU.org if he supplied the genetics. his response "We already have a bunch of people doing journals on the G13 already at various forums. Thanks anyway". . I then asked hims for links and more bud shots...lets see what he says...

Im not bashing Dr.GT, I just want the truth..

so doc turned you down on your bid to get free seeds and now your on here pissing on him? What a class act you are Chico
 

Brick Top

New Member
So you're saying that when KFC were sued for using an inacurate representation of one of their burgers on their poster, and lot the case, that this never happened? You can be sued for false advertising or misrepresentation etc, you just have to accept that as that's just the way the world works right now. And half an inch is half an inch. I know that in this instance no point has been made to state that it is a normal bic lighter, technically, logically, there's nwot wrong, i'm just saying that the way the legal system and gudges work, it could easily go either way.
There are no truth in advertising laws covering cannabis strains and advertisements. If there were there wouldn't be 30-some genetically different 'White Widow' strains or any of any other of the many knockoff strains. It would clearly be a case of false advertising and Shantibaba could have kept using the name and sued ever breeder who used it or he could have changed the name and Green House Seeds could have sued every breeder who used it or someone could sue a breeder. Have you ever heard of that happening? I doubt it, because there are no truth in advertising laws that cover cannabis strains. There is no legal copyright protection for cannabis and there is no laws stating that something has to be what it is claimed to be.. Look at Green House Seeds Bubba Kush. Genetically it's not anything at all like the original Bubba Kush ... but it carries the name .. and no one can sue over it.

That is why Dr. Greenthumb was able to sell his fake Acapulco Gold and the other fakes in his heritage line and now his fake G13 without getting sued.
 

SCARHOLE

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There are no truth in advertising laws covering cannabis strains and advertisements. If there were there wouldn't be 30-some genetically 'White Widow' strains or any of any other of the many knockoff strains. It would clearly be a case of false advertising and Shantibaba could have kept using the name and sued ever breeder who used it or he could have changed the name and Green House Seeds could have sued every breeder who used it or someone could sue a breeder. Have you ever heard of that happening? I doubt it, because there are no truth in advertising laws that cover cannabis strains. There is no legal copyright protection for cannabis and there is no laws stating that something has to be what it is claimed to be.. Look at Green House Seeds Bubba Kush. Genetically it's not anything at all like the original Bubba Kush ... but it carries the name .. and no one can sue over it.

That is why Dr. Greenthumb was able to sell his fake Acapulco Gold and the other fakes in his heritage line and now his fake G13 without getting sued.

There is no proof any strain, released from any breeder, is what they claim.
Does that mean they are all fakes an liars for selling them?
 

SCARHOLE

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I took some pictures with a mini bic and a regualr sized one and it really doesnt make that much difference.Try it yourselves. The mini is I beleive less then an inch shorter then a regular (i measured but cant remember now) either way you measure it that is one big bud regardless. .


Big purps Dr Greenthumb, grown by Dr Gruber.
Check out his smoke report ....https://www.rollitup.org/smoke-reports/424552-dr-greenthumbs-big-purps-smoke.html#post5597026



Heres another G13 grow here, https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/427755-dr-greenthumbs-g13-rdwc-tree.html
Dude got kicked off his old site for growing it.
 

tip top toker

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Am i the only one thinking that in that picture the lighter makes a HUGE difference in the perception of what is there? The size difference works out across the whole bud as well, so if you mistake a 2" lighter for a 3" lighter, you end up with a HUGE discrepancy.

Cheers for the clarification BT, was rather drunk and stoned last night and was not pulling many conclusions up on anything :D
 

SCARHOLE

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Am i the only one thinking that in that picture the lighter makes a HUGE difference in the perception of what is there? The size difference works out across the whole bud as well, so if you mistake a 2" lighter for a 3" lighter, you end up with a HUGE discrepancy.

If they wanted to fake em they could slide the lighter back to make buds look bigger,
Or photoshop?
Or leave the lighter out an let you guess.

But he put somthing in the pic for scale to honestly show yall how big it realy is.

Its very easily identyfiable as a Mini Bic?
Its not a distance shot to hide that the bic is a mini?


I got a feeling if he put a quarter (coin) up beside it , yall would have bitched that he should have put a silver dollar beside them buds.
 

tip top toker

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If they wanted to fake em they could slide the lighter back to make buds look bigger,
Or photoshop?
Or leave the lighter out an let you guess.

But he put somthing in the pic for scale to honestly show yall how big it realy is.

Its very easily identyfiable as a Mini Bic?
Its not a distance shot to hide that the bic is a mini?


I got a feeling if he put a quarter (coin) up beside it , yall would have bitched that he should have put a silver dollar beside them buds.
I've never used a mini bic in my life, so i will naturally regard it as a regular lighter, 3 inches long or whatever. If he put a quater next to the plant, no, i would not give a shit, i know how big a quater is... feeling was kinda way off there. When you are using an item as a point of reference for scale you use a common standard item that everyone will know and be able to compare to. Say what you will i see it as misleading. If he put a silver dollar instaed of a quater, i would quite possbily bitch, i've no fucking clue what a silver dollar is like or what size it is etc. And it's kinda easy to tell when people are faking scales... like really easy :D my brain is not that mashed up.
 

a dog named chico

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so doc turned you down on your bid to get free seeds and now your on here pissing on him? What a class act you are Chico
I am not bashing him...lol...i just want to see for myself, i could care less if he told me to fuck of or if he mailed the seeds. the only time i "pissed" on the doc is in regards to his price of $200 for 2 seeds, i stand by my statement!

If your taking my skepticism as "pissing", well that is your problem.
 

OGMan

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I have been buying seeds from Greenthumb for years. He's the ONLY breeder I trust now. Gone are the days when you could trust Greenhouse or any other number of Amsterdam banks, you never know what you're going to get now ...if you get anything at all. Doc has never lied to me. Everything I got and grew was "as advertised", so I beleieve him when he says it's G13 and no matter what you say, it is the biggest most vigourous plant I have ever seen. It was the same we he came out with Bubba Kush. Everyone on the forums carped and screamed and said it was a fake but it was not. They said Doc's OG was a fake but it is not. They said Chemdawg was a fake but it is not. They said Trainwreck was a fake but it is not. They said Sour Diesel was a fake and so on. Add to that Doc's S1s are all 100% feminized and no one has ever had hermie plants from Doc's fems that I know of and you begin to understand why other seedbanks and their minions are pissed off and HATE Greenthumb. He does a better job
 
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