LOL, it is HIS fault he's not getting the owts at home, whatever that is.
Dr Greenthumbs G13
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Angry Pollock
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maybe he meant 'owls'
No I don't believe that any more than I believe Bricktop grew Acapulco ( Guererro ) Gold. I think Bricktop took DD up on his smear campaign. Remember, DD offered free seeds to anyone who'd smear Doc? That's when all this began.
Angry Pollock
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OMG! this is killing me, frmrboi you just made me spill my beer, i want a Molson to replace it
you got it, probably be warm by the time you get here though, cheaper than a keyboard at least.
I want to try that micro carbonated shit soon.
Dominathan
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I feel that the extra price is worth it. I am dealing directly with a breeder, not a seed bank. And on top of that, I can call him 24/7 about the problems I am having with it. In my book, it's worth it.
Angry Pollock
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that's right, BT emerged from GERIATRIC PARK as soon as those free seeds were offered,
Dr Gruber
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A Textbook Education: Texas and Conservative Revisionist History
Posted: March 16, 2010 by Sidney Carton in Current Events, History, Politics
Tags: Civil War, education, History, Politics, Texas, Thomas Jefferson
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The Texas state school board has decided in a party line vote to change their U.S. history curriculum in the coming academic year. In and of itself, this is no great thing, school boards do this with a degree of regularity, as newer textbooks become available, or newer technologies allow for a different student experience. Yet what makes this vote by the Texan authorities so noteworthy is the way in which the American history curriculum will be altered, the emphasis of the courses are to be fundamentally shifted toward a form of revisionist history popular on the right.
This new history will focus heavily on the conservative revolution of the 1980′s-90′s, will offer Confederate General Stonewall Jackson as a paragon of leadership, and will give equal time to a statement by Confederate President Jefferson Davis when a speech by Abraham Lincoln is discussed. Far more disturbing, in my own humble opinion, has been the decision to downgrade the influence of Thomas Jefferson among the founding fathers, and instead discuss how they were influenced by medieval thinkers like St. Thomas Aquinas, while consistently emphasizing the religious nature of the founders project.
Now speaking as a historian-in-training myself, I can frankly admit that objectivity in the writing of history is an ideal to aspire to, and not necessarily a goal to be achieved. Every work has a small degree of bias of one form or another worked into it. And yes, academia is well-known for its supposed left-wing bias, (to hear people talk youd think we were all taught out of Maos Little Red Book for heavens sakes) but is writing a history that runs to the opposite end of the ideological spectrum really a solution? Or is it merely an attempt to indoctrinate ones pupils into one partisan system in order to prevent the possibility of their indoctrination into another?
But to discuss such things on their merits, I really have to wonder about the reasoning inherent here. Are Texans really going to privilege the works of Conservative Activist Phyllis Schafly over those of Thomas Jefferson? Im sure Mrs. Schafly has written some influential tracts in her day, but Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, and was highly influential in the writing of the Constitution, are these things important to the Texas State School Board? Or in their rush to cram their students full of partisan pap, have they overlooked the fact that the whole point of teaching American students American history is to give them an appreciation for the nation in which they live?
Now, I find the emphasis on the Confederacy perversely interesting. Yes, Texas joined the Confederate States of America in 1861, and Governor Perry has made some idiotic statements about secession in the past, so one begins to wonder whether or not the Texans would like to tell us something here? Whatever the reason, I really dont have a problem with the use of Stonewall Jackson as an icon of leadership, he was probably one of the most gifted battlefield generals in the Civil War, though I would point out that he died from friendly fire, having been shot by his own men
The juxtaposition of the quotes from Jeff Davis and Abraham Lincoln I find more problematic. If one wants to argue from the position of absolute impartiality, maybe this is appropriate, but where do we draw the line? Would this be appropriate in a World History Course? Would we give Hitler and Mussolinis claims the same weight as those of FDR and Churchill? After all, there have been generations of individuals who have argued that the left-wing bias of academia has given Fascism and the Third Reich the short end of the stick, surely in our rush to avoid bias we dont want to validate the darkest crimes of the past.
I realize that in the end this is all politics, most often official histories are, but I think I may be forgiven if I indulge in a moment of righteous indignation. After all, the founder of the modern discipline of history, Leopold von Ranke, argued that the primary goal of all historians was to discuss history wie es eigentlich gewesen (as it actually happened.) While most historians would agree that the absolute reconstruction of the past advocated by Ranke is impossible, it remains the noble goal that one hopes guides the writing of most history. Because in frankness, if we are truly appreciate our nation, we must consider all its history, its flaws and triumphs, its glories and its weaknesses. Only in doing so can we truly realize how privileged we are as Americans, only in doing so can we realize that we are a great nation not because we excelled with out flaws, but because we have excelled in spite of them. If the new Texas textbooks do not provide this understanding, then the state school board has ill-served its students.
Posted: March 16, 2010 by Sidney Carton in Current Events, History, Politics
Tags: Civil War, education, History, Politics, Texas, Thomas Jefferson
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The Texas state school board has decided in a party line vote to change their U.S. history curriculum in the coming academic year. In and of itself, this is no great thing, school boards do this with a degree of regularity, as newer textbooks become available, or newer technologies allow for a different student experience. Yet what makes this vote by the Texan authorities so noteworthy is the way in which the American history curriculum will be altered, the emphasis of the courses are to be fundamentally shifted toward a form of revisionist history popular on the right.
This new history will focus heavily on the conservative revolution of the 1980′s-90′s, will offer Confederate General Stonewall Jackson as a paragon of leadership, and will give equal time to a statement by Confederate President Jefferson Davis when a speech by Abraham Lincoln is discussed. Far more disturbing, in my own humble opinion, has been the decision to downgrade the influence of Thomas Jefferson among the founding fathers, and instead discuss how they were influenced by medieval thinkers like St. Thomas Aquinas, while consistently emphasizing the religious nature of the founders project.
Now speaking as a historian-in-training myself, I can frankly admit that objectivity in the writing of history is an ideal to aspire to, and not necessarily a goal to be achieved. Every work has a small degree of bias of one form or another worked into it. And yes, academia is well-known for its supposed left-wing bias, (to hear people talk youd think we were all taught out of Maos Little Red Book for heavens sakes) but is writing a history that runs to the opposite end of the ideological spectrum really a solution? Or is it merely an attempt to indoctrinate ones pupils into one partisan system in order to prevent the possibility of their indoctrination into another?
But to discuss such things on their merits, I really have to wonder about the reasoning inherent here. Are Texans really going to privilege the works of Conservative Activist Phyllis Schafly over those of Thomas Jefferson? Im sure Mrs. Schafly has written some influential tracts in her day, but Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, and was highly influential in the writing of the Constitution, are these things important to the Texas State School Board? Or in their rush to cram their students full of partisan pap, have they overlooked the fact that the whole point of teaching American students American history is to give them an appreciation for the nation in which they live?
Now, I find the emphasis on the Confederacy perversely interesting. Yes, Texas joined the Confederate States of America in 1861, and Governor Perry has made some idiotic statements about secession in the past, so one begins to wonder whether or not the Texans would like to tell us something here? Whatever the reason, I really dont have a problem with the use of Stonewall Jackson as an icon of leadership, he was probably one of the most gifted battlefield generals in the Civil War, though I would point out that he died from friendly fire, having been shot by his own men
The juxtaposition of the quotes from Jeff Davis and Abraham Lincoln I find more problematic. If one wants to argue from the position of absolute impartiality, maybe this is appropriate, but where do we draw the line? Would this be appropriate in a World History Course? Would we give Hitler and Mussolinis claims the same weight as those of FDR and Churchill? After all, there have been generations of individuals who have argued that the left-wing bias of academia has given Fascism and the Third Reich the short end of the stick, surely in our rush to avoid bias we dont want to validate the darkest crimes of the past.
I realize that in the end this is all politics, most often official histories are, but I think I may be forgiven if I indulge in a moment of righteous indignation. After all, the founder of the modern discipline of history, Leopold von Ranke, argued that the primary goal of all historians was to discuss history wie es eigentlich gewesen (as it actually happened.) While most historians would agree that the absolute reconstruction of the past advocated by Ranke is impossible, it remains the noble goal that one hopes guides the writing of most history. Because in frankness, if we are truly appreciate our nation, we must consider all its history, its flaws and triumphs, its glories and its weaknesses. Only in doing so can we truly realize how privileged we are as Americans, only in doing so can we realize that we are a great nation not because we excelled with out flaws, but because we have excelled in spite of them. If the new Texas textbooks do not provide this understanding, then the state school board has ill-served its students.
Brick Top
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Originally Posted by Brick Top
Go back and read the thread. The same moronic weak ploy as yours was already attempted and it was clearly answered and shown to be asinine.
i am shocked that a man of your high moral standards would call me 'asinine'.
You, along with a number of others here seriously need to take a few reading comprehension courses. I said the very same; "weak ploy as yours was already attempted and it was clearly answered and shown to be asinine."
Now that you have read it again are you now capable of understanding what was said? It was said that the claim, the; "weak ploy" was asinine, not the person who used it first and not you ... only the; "weak ploy," the claim the tactic.
When read messages some of you write I keep hearing part of the OLD Stealers Wheel song "Stuck in the Middle With You" running through my head .... the part that goes; "Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right." There's one person trying to base their argument about me based on something that was not said and because it was not said at that certain time he believes it is proof that now it is being said it has to be false. That of course makes total sense, like if this were a thread about 70's rock bands and people mentioned the size crowds Emerson, Lake & Palmer drew and I mentioned how they once played before 70,000 people in Soldier Field in Chicago ... but did not at that time bother to mention I was one of the 70,000 ... but because I only later mentioned it then it would have to be false because I did not mention it in the very first message about the crowd. That kind of though process is like a Sherlock Holmes of some bizarro world where everything would be backwards and that world's Sherlock Holmes would deduce everything incorrectly.
Then there's you, someone who has such a poor grasp of the English language that you are incapable of understanding that it was clearly stated that a; "ploy" was called asinine and not you.
Then there's a couple or more who flat out reject information found on sites dedicated to medicinal marijuana in regards to G13's medicinal properties and it being a medicinal strain.
"Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right" FOR SURE!
I will do my best to help you out so you will finally be capable of understanding .... I will type REALLY SLOW so you can keep up ..... OK, are you ready, because here I go ......... Dr. Greenthumb ripped me off. He sold me seeds he claimed to be the original Acapulco Gold and they were no closer to being the original Acapulco Gold than I am to galactic central point.
Got it?
I rather doubt that he knew anything of me back in about 2004 or 2005 when he ripped me off, but regardless of if he did or did not it wouldn't matter. He just rips people off. That is what he does. I posted grow/smoke reports where others who knew what the original Acapulco Gold was like purchased Dr. Ripoff's fake and were very disappointed and said it was nothing at all like the real deal. I doubt he knew us all and selectively ripped us off and sent real Acapulco Gold to others.
Dr. Ripoff has a proven history of picking famous name strains from the past and claiming to have them and then selling people fakes, and he is clearly doing it again with his fake G13.
not sure either but it's probably better than owls, they got sharp beaks and claws,
Brick Top, i still don't see where you got ripped off, could you please be more specific?
You, along with a number of others here seriously need to take a few reading comprehension courses. I said the very same; "weak ploy as yours was already attempted and it was clearly answered and shown to be asinine."
Now that you have read it again are you now capable of understanding what was said? It was said that the claim, the; "weak ploy" was asinine, not the person who used it first and not you ... only the; "weak ploy," the claim the tactic.
When read messages some of you write I keep hearing part of the OLD Stealers Wheel song "Stuck in the Middle With You" running through my head .... the part that goes; "Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right." There's one person trying to base their argument about me based on something that was not said and because it was not said at that certain time he believes it is proof that now it is being said it has to be false. That of course makes total sense, like if this were a thread about 70's rock bands and people mentioned the size crowds Emerson, Lake & Palmer drew and I mentioned how they once played before 70,000 people in Soldier Field in Chicago ... but did not at that time bother to mention I was one of the 70,000 ... but because I only later mentioned it then it would have to be false because I did not mention it in the very first message about the crowd. That kind of though process is like a Sherlock Holmes of some bizarro world where everything would be backwards and that world's Sherlock Holmes would deduce everything incorrectly.
Then there's you, someone who has such a poor grasp of the English language that you are incapable of understanding that it was clearly stated that a; "ploy" was called asinine and not you.
Then there's a couple or more who flat out reject information found on sites dedicated to medicinal marijuana in regards to G13's medicinal properties and it being a medicinal strain.
"Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right" FOR SURE!
I will do my best to help you out so you will finally be capable of understanding .... I will type REALLY SLOW so you can keep up ..... OK, are you ready, because here I go ......... Dr. Greenthumb ripped me off. He sold me seeds he claimed to be the original Acapulco Gold and they were no closer to being the original Acapulco Gold than I am to galactic central point.
Got it?
I rather doubt that he knew anything of me back in about 2004 or 2005 when he ripped me off, but regardless of if he did or did not it wouldn't matter. He just rips people off. That is what he does. I posted grow/smoke reports where others who knew what the original Acapulco Gold was like purchased Dr. Ripoff's fake and were very disappointed and said it was nothing at all like the real deal. I doubt he knew us all and selectively ripped us off and sent real Acapulco Gold to others.
Dr. Ripoff has a proven history of picking famous name strains from the past and claiming to have them and then selling people fakes, and he is clearly doing it again with his fake G13.[/QUOTE]
You, along with a number of others here seriously need to take a few reading comprehension courses. I said the very same; "weak ploy as yours was already attempted and it was clearly answered and shown to be asinine."
Now that you have read it again are you now capable of understanding what was said? It was said that the claim, the; "weak ploy" was asinine, not the person who used it first and not you ... only the; "weak ploy," the claim the tactic.
When read messages some of you write I keep hearing part of the OLD Stealers Wheel song "Stuck in the Middle With You" running through my head .... the part that goes; "Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right." There's one person trying to base their argument about me based on something that was not said and because it was not said at that certain time he believes it is proof that now it is being said it has to be false. That of course makes total sense, like if this were a thread about 70's rock bands and people mentioned the size crowds Emerson, Lake & Palmer drew and I mentioned how they once played before 70,000 people in Soldier Field in Chicago ... but did not at that time bother to mention I was one of the 70,000 ... but because I only later mentioned it then it would have to be false because I did not mention it in the very first message about the crowd. That kind of though process is like a Sherlock Holmes of some bizarro world where everything would be backwards and that world's Sherlock Holmes would deduce everything incorrectly.
Then there's you, someone who has such a poor grasp of the English language that you are incapable of understanding that it was clearly stated that a; "ploy" was called asinine and not you.
Then there's a couple or more who flat out reject information found on sites dedicated to medicinal marijuana in regards to G13's medicinal properties and it being a medicinal strain.
"Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right" FOR SURE!
I will do my best to help you out so you will finally be capable of understanding .... I will type REALLY SLOW so you can keep up ..... OK, are you ready, because here I go ......... Dr. Greenthumb ripped me off. He sold me seeds he claimed to be the original Acapulco Gold and they were no closer to being the original Acapulco Gold than I am to galactic central point.
Got it?
I rather doubt that he knew anything of me back in about 2004 or 2005 when he ripped me off, but regardless of if he did or did not it wouldn't matter. He just rips people off. That is what he does. I posted grow/smoke reports where others who knew what the original Acapulco Gold was like purchased Dr. Ripoff's fake and were very disappointed and said it was nothing at all like the real deal. I doubt he knew us all and selectively ripped us off and sent real Acapulco Gold to others.
Dr. Ripoff has a proven history of picking famous name strains from the past and claiming to have them and then selling people fakes, and he is clearly doing it again with his fake G13.[/QUOTE]
Brick Top
New Member
That in and of itself it incorrect. That came from the carpetbaggers revisionist history. Ask any self respecting educated Southerner and you will learn that the so called; "Civil War" never occurred, that was Yankee propaganda devised to cover their war crimes.
What was fought was The War of Northern Aggression.
I guess I won't be asking you then
Angry Pollock
Well-Known Member
UH OH, the old man is hitting the 'shine' early tonite, and we
all know the south won too, said so on 'family guy'still waiting for the south to rise again
Brick Top
New Member
You absolutely HAVE to be playing with me because NO human could be so dense and survive.
I will do my best to help you out so you will finally be capable of understanding .... I will type REALLY SLOW so you can keep up ..... OK, are you ready, because here I go ......... Dr. Greenthumb ripped me off. He sold me seeds he claimed to be the original Acapulco Gold and they were no closer to being the original Acapulco Gold than I am to galactic central point.
I was sold fake Acapulco Gold seeds, I paid for one thing and received something totally different instead. I ordered and paid for true Acapulco Gold seeds and was sent Ghetto Gold seeds by Dr. Ripoff. Got it? If you still find yourself incapable of understanding just ask your mommy or your special education teacher to explain it to you because I cannot make it any simpler for you than I already have.
I would really like to be able to be more helpful to you so you could finally be capable of understanding, but it is utterly impossible for me to express myself monosyllabically so as to make it any easier for you.
Yow ! smokin' that PCP laced weed and popin' the OxyCotin on top of it, I see a new novel form him in a few hours.UH OH, the old man is hitting the 'shine' early tonite, and we
still waiting for the south to rise again
Brick Top
New Member
Originally Posted by Brick Top
That in and of itself it incorrect. That came from the carpetbaggers revisionist history. Ask any self respecting educated Southerner and you will learn that the so called; "Civil War" never occurred, that was Yankee propaganda devised to cover their war crimes.
What was fought was The War of Northern Aggression.
UH OH, the old man is hitting the 'shine' early tonite, and we
It's just halftime .... we'll beat those Yankees in the fourth quarter.
"Be proud you're a rebel 'Cause the South's gonna do it again and again."
where in that post does it say he ripped you off? i just don't see it
Brick Top
New Member
You just might ... but sadly because you are a frmrboi Canadian you would not be capable or either reading it or understanding it. If I do write one though I will be sure to include some pictures so there will at least be some part of it you will be capable of enjoying.