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[jdizzle22]

I don't think they help finish them early or not, but they might get bigger in the same amount of time from having so much more usable light (I don't think finishing has as much to do with the quality of the light as how far into 12/12 they are)

 

[joe macclennan]

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I was just doing my usual Youtube cruising for LED grows.
What I found is the biggest LED grow I've ever seen.
Which is something, because it was originally this growers photos a year and a half ago that sold me on ProSource LED's.
He's greatly expanded his operation since last I saw it, and the upgrades are more then impressive.

Check it out:
[video=youtube;kxPvN9ke2Xg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxPvN9ke2Xg[/video]

OMFG those are the largest buds I have ever seen under led.
Friggin a excellent find BAD KARMA. ++++rep
Exactly the type of proof we need to put the LED haters in there place
AWESOME, AWESOME AWESOME

 

[jdizzle22]

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OMFG those are the largest buds I have ever seen under led.
Friggin a excellent find BAD KARMA. ++++rep
Exactly the type of proof we need to put the LED haters in there place
AWESOME, AWESOME AWESOME

Great looking stuff!
That is a lot of UFOs
/ round LEDs

I wonder what wattage the diodes are, the website doesn't say anything about it (so I assume they are 1w maybe 2w)

 

[PeacefulKid1992]

hmm i dont think led's are better then HID's beacuse led are replicas of HID's but i think they are better for growing pot (LED) this is why im switching to Led for my next growth
i couldnt get led cuz im on a budget. does anybody know if u can use these true out all the plant cycle?

 

[Bad Karma]

Great looking stuff!
That is a lot of UFOs
/ round LEDs

I wonder what wattage the diodes are, the website doesn't say anything about it (so I assume they are 1w maybe 2w)

Those were 180W Illuminators (Jumbo UFO's), using 1W diodes.
I know 1W is the old standard, but that doesn't mean it can't get the job done.
The top 2.5-3 ft. of one of those big plants is as good as anything you can find growing under any light.
The bottom couple of feet don't see the same kind of light penetration, so they end up less dense.
Thus the move to 3W diodes for the new standard to help correct such an issue.
ProSource hasn't put out a new model that's fully 3W diodes yet.
They seem to move a good amount of lights, so I think their mentality is if it ain't broke, then don't fix it.
Though I am sure that they are working on such things as I type this now.
If they added some 2700K diodes, that you could turn on or off for flowering, then they'd be even better in my opinion.
That would help bulk up those buds even more, even faster (I've done it with 2700K CFL's mixed in with my Illuminators).
The lights already veg great so no need to upgrade that aspect IMO.
These lights are very effective when used correctly.

 

[PeacefulKid1992]

Those were 180W Illuminators (Jumbo UFO's), using 1W diodes.
I know 1W is the old standard, but that doesn't mean it can't get the job done.
The top 2.5-3 ft. of one of those big plants is as good as anything you can find growing under any light.
The bottom couple of feet don't see the same kind of light penetration, so they end up less dense.
Thus the move to 3W diodes for the new standard to help correct such an issue.
ProSource hasn't put out a new model that's fully 3W diodes yet.
They seem to move a good amount of lights, so I think their mentality is if it ain't broke, then don't fix it.
Though I am sure that they are working on such things as I type this now.
If they added some 2700K diodes, that you could turn on or off for flowering, then they'd be even better in my opinion.
That would help bulk up those buds even more, even faster (I've done it with 2700K CFL's mixed in with my Illuminators).
The lights already veg great so no need to upgrade that aspect IMO.
These lights are very effective when used correctly.

To you what will be "effective way to use" ?

 

[jdizzle22]

Those were 180W Illuminators (Jumbo UFO's), using 1W diodes.
I know 1W is the old standard, but that doesn't mean it can't get the job done.
The top 2.5-3 ft. of one of those big plants is as good as anything you can find growing under any light.
The bottom couple of feet don't see the same kind of light penetration, so they end up less dense.
Thus the move to 3W diodes for the new standard to help correct such an issue.
ProSource hasn't put out a new model that's fully 3W diodes yet.
They seem to move a good amount of lights, so I think their mentality is if it ain't broke, then don't fix it.
Though I am sure that they are working on such things as I type this now.
If they added some 2700K diodes, that you could turn on or off for flowering, then they'd be even better in my opinion.
That would help bulk up those buds even more, even faster (I've done it with 2700K CFL's mixed in with my Illuminators).
The lights already veg great so no need to upgrade that aspect IMO.
These lights are very effective when used correctly.

Oh yeah they're great! If those are 1w diodes those are the best 1w LED plants I've ever seen for sure! Even as good as most 3w grows, I'm just saying I can't wait to see set ups like this with full spectrum* 3w panels

*(seems to have settled at 12 differen't wavelengths?)

If I could grow on a massive scale like that I would go 290w Spectras on light movers, or I would go with perhaps one '240w' Blacktar per plant each with its own seperate SCROG screen attached to their 2-5 gallon Air pots (.8 gallon air pots are great for 2ft SOG). If you run a collective rolling Blackstar would be a lot cheaper than GLH because you could get a '240w' blackstar for 1 plant of whatever strain each person wants and those lights are a pretty great deal . While if you wanna grow the highest quality on a massive scale like the same strain a whole bunch I would go GLH on light movers.

 

[budlover909]

"i dont think led's are better then HID's beacuse led are replicas of HID's"

gas-based pressurized tube versus semiconductr chip and you say led is a replica of hid

wat

 

[puffenuff]

some very nice led nugs in that commercial grow op video. Would be interested to know when that video was created...also noticed theyre using dyna-grow nutrients, I've been hearing good things about them...might have to look into the prices on those. With that many prosource ufos i'd bet they got them on discount. Looks great from a company no one on RIU ever talks about. Hope we start to get more info about the other companies out there besides the spectras and blackstars that a lot of people here are on the bandwagons of lately. Spread the led love

 

[Bad Karma]

To you what will be "effective way to use" ?

If your referring to when I said "These lights are very effective when used correctly", I can explain.
People don't often take the time to learn how to grow with a new LED light, I've seen it happen many times in various grows across the internet.
HID are standardized, so canopy distances from the light are roughly the same across the board.
LED's are not yet standardized, so each manufacturers light is going to vary in distance to the canopy.
This is something the grower must figure out for themselves, going through a trial and error process.
Using the growing info given by the LED manufacturer is a starting point, but they are rarely fully accurate.
So it takes 2-3 grows to figure out (and remember) the best distances to keep your lights at and whatnot, and unfortunately most people give up after 1 grow when they don't get the results they want.

 

[jdizzle22]

If your referring to when I said "These lights are very effective when used correctly", I can explain.
People don't often take the time to learn how to grow with a new LED light, I've seen it happen many times in various grows across the internet.
HID are standardized, so canopy distances from the light are roughly the same across the board.
LED's are not yet standardized, so each manufacturers light is going to vary in distance to the canopy.
This is something the grower must figure out for themselves, going through a trial and error process.
Using the growing info given by the LED manufacturer is a starting point, but they are rarely fully accurate.
So it takes 2-3 grows to figure out (and remember) the best distances to keep your lights at and whatnot, and unfortunately most people give up after 1 grow when they don't get the results they want.

What have you found in that regard, or what do others seem to say about it?

The GLH guy grows cannabis, and he recommends 16-24in in veg/flower. I flowered HID vegged plants with one at 12 in and I didn't notice any issue (some claim to veg at 8in with GLH), I'm don't think I will veg at less than 2ft unless the foliage is at least 2 ft tall as well

 

[PeacefulKid1992]

"i dont think led's are better then HID's beacuse led are replicas of HID's"

gas-based pressurized tube versus semiconductr chip and you say led is a replica of hid

wat

dude how are u going to tell me,i work on cars and been working on imports since i was fucking 5,HID's came first Led lights just came out in the market like 1 year ago,HID been here in the U.S since the 90's, now u might have problems in reading or understand english, i said i might agree for them being better (LED ) for growing pot.

 

[RoloTomassi]

dude how are u going to tell me,i work on cars and been working on imports since i was fucking 5,HID's came first Led lights just came out in the market like 1 year ago,HID been here in the U.S since the 90's, now u might have problems in reading or understand english, i said i might agree for them being better (LED ) for growing pot.

Actually, the guy you quoted is in agreement with you, he was manually quoting and responding to someone else but opted not to 'Reply With Quote'. Just pointing this out since your tone is a bit harsh and there's no need for things to unnecessarily heat up.

 

[meharmon]

Lumens is related to lux tho, and we can all afford a lux meter (and should all have one) , so you can give a rough estimate of its strength at given distances, but if we had much more money we could get a par meter. Until those are cheap, I'd say cut some slack on being loose with the terms so we all don't have to use micromoles per second. <3

please everyone stop using LUMENS as a tool for measuring anything plant related.......... This has been covered quite a few times that LUMENS don't measure plant related light absorption. LUMENS are for HUMANS!!!

 

[PeacefulKid1992]

Actually, the guy you quoted is in agreement with you, he was manually quoting and responding to someone else but opted not to 'Reply With Quote'. Just pointing this out since your tone is a bit harsh and there's no need for things to unnecessarily heat up.

im not heating up, and too that guy sorry i didnt get mad at u.

 

[TshirtNinja]

Lumens is related to lux tho, and we can all afford a lux meter (and should all have one) , so you can give a rough estimate of its strength at given distances, but if we had much more money we could get a par meter. Until those are cheap, I'd say cut some slack on being loose with the terms so we all don't have to use micromoles per second. <3

No I won't go easy because its not a proper measurement for plants AT ALL. Lumens or LUX don't relate to the photo reception from the plant at all. Those 2 measurements are made to determine the intensity of light for the HUMAN eye. Lumens for HUMANS still bro. Thats like using liters to measure running distance. Yo man I ran 14000 liters today bro and it was KILLER!

 

[WWShadow]

dude how are u going to tell me,i work on cars and been working on imports since i was fucking 5,HID's came first Led lights just came out in the market like 1 year ago,HID been here in the U.S since the 90's, now u might have problems in reading or understand english, i said i might agree for them being better (LED ) for growing pot.

Light Emitting Diodes have been around since like 1920 or so. The technology is only just now getting to the point where they can really compete with HID. Theson it has taken so long is that now one ever really explored the potential of LED's. And even now LED's are still letting People down in the flowering phase. Well with one exception, the Kessil H150 is extremely powerful. I've seen on grow on here that was really great. I think it was Grumpy old dreamer, something like that. Now Kessil has come out with the H350 Spectral Halo in purple and Magenta. I don't know if they are going to do solid blue or red yet. Does anyone get their newsletter? look at the comments from buyers of the H150. IF the Halo is as good for it's size as the H150 is then that is great but $400 + a pop is still expensive.

 

[budlover909]

dude how are u going to tell me,i work on cars and been working on imports since i was fucking 5,HID's came first Led lights just came out in the market like 1 year ago,HID been here in the U.S since the 90's, now u might have problems in reading or understand english, i said i might agree for them being better (LED ) for growing pot.

the led was first made in the 1900s before the great depression maybe if you botered to look up on wikipedia

you said exactly 'replica'

the definition of replica is 'copy'

a semiconductor chip is far from a copy of a pressurized gas tube

can you even understand your own words bro

 

[budlover909]

"now u might have problems in reading or understand english"

Says the person that doesn't understand what replica means

 

[budlover909]

Oh, and you say LEDs for cars came out last year?

The first series-production LED headlamps were factory-installed on the Lexus LS 600h / LS 600h L presented in 2007 as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp#LED_light_sources

Try four.