Orange Spots on Bud Leaves!

[Niko Bellick]

Okay I'm forty three days or so into flowering four raspberry cough from nirvana. Canna aqua flora line of nutes constant ph of 5.8 using T5 floros and a couple of cfl bulbs for side lighting. The sugar leaves on the two plants on the left side in my dwc set up have begun to get orange spots/stripes. the leaves themselves feel fine to the touch. anyone with insight on this would be much appreciated. I'm attaching a pic of one of the leaves there are also tons of pics in my thread. thank youView attachment 1589830

 

[chickengutz]

Mg deficiency. a little epsom salt wouldnt hurt.

 

[Niko Bellick]

Mg deficiency. a little epsom salt wouldnt hurt.

doesn't that start on the older growth? this is starting on the topmost leaves.

 

[Kingrow1]

I have seen it before but never knew what it was! I also had it at the end of flowering, although i grow in soil, always started with the bud leaves near the top and worked its way down the bud a bit but never spread too far. As it was always the end of flowering that it occured i would never be able to cure it neither did it progress onto the bud just the leaves and i could trim off no probs. I always thought it was down to an overfert late in flowering but i never knew for sure. Intresting to see if anyone can solve this and how it turns out. Keep us posted, are the leaves dark green on most of the plant??

 

[sparkafire]

doesn't that start on the older growth? this is starting on the topmost leaves.

Kick out some whole plant pics. If you just show me one boob how can I tell if she is hot or not?

 

[Kingrow1]

I had a look at my garden savers book by stitch edited by rosenthal and it suggests sumthing in the final phase of flowering and showed a similar leaf, i will get my camera and take a pic of the pages just out of intrest, promised i would remember what i read last night in the book but i forgot! I will get it out again tonight and take pics if i can remember.

 

[Niko Bellick]

Okay here you go, ignore the mess in the background and any thoughts of pests etc. I checked for bugs cleaned the room and took some bleach to the walls and all my tools just in case. The older fan leaves on the original problem plant are a really dark green but the rest of the plants are the perfectly healthy (same damn res for all the plants) I have noticed that the roots on that plant are more smaller than the others. Also I noticed in comparison to the other hairs on the other plants hers are much thinner than the others. hope this helps.

 

[sparkafire]

The plants look healthy to me man. They look like plants that are working their way though the fruiting process. If you grew from seed you just have 2 different pheno's and each one is acting differently to the situation. If you have issues with just one leaf or maybe just a few you are fine just be watchful of the whole plant taking on the issue. Nice job!

 

[Niko Bellick]

The plants look healthy to me man. They look like plants that are working their way though the fruiting process. If you grew from seed you just have 2 different pheno's and each one is acting differently to the situation. If you have issues with just one leaf or maybe just a few you are fine just be watchful of the whole plant taking on the issue. Nice job!

Thanks bro that's what everyone's been telling me. Just got worried this close to the end lol. Btw your signature is hilarious.

 

[Kingrow1]

 

[Kingrow1]

The first picture is the book i took the pictures from, the second picture is boron deficiency and the last three pictures are calcium deficiency, all occur on new growth and according to the book are the only culprits. Now it goes on to say that boron looks like a calcium deficiency but can be differentiated by the small size of the necrotic areas.

I know the books are far from right and i have had the grow bible and a couple of others but gave them away after long nights of reading them. I use this book now and seems to work best out of the many i have had. I have just posted this to see what you think and not as a diagnosis to the problem, every other deficiency starts at the bottom and works up or looks completly different.

 

[Niko Bellick]

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Pic three looks sort of like what's going on with mine but my spots have an odd uniformity to them and are much smaller patches. that does seem like the culprit though. So far since changing the res out the spots haven't really advanced any farther. so its either something genetic that only effects the main cola sugar leaves or it was a cal def. Honestly I think the culprit is my nutes, they're roughly a month expired so theyre probably breaking down or something. My little paperback book of plant problems also says what yours does, so I'm forced to believe it was a def and not genetics.

Thanks for all the help though bro I appreciate the time and effort just to solve my silly 'ol problems. Going to sprinkle some cal-mag in the res just to be on the safe side. Do you have a grow journal or something I can check out?

 

[Kingrow1]

Not yet, mite do a journal in a month or so, i'm getting to that point soon but battling with leaf drop and soil problems in veg. I have done a thread on my problems you might be able to find posted by me but i have lost it now, maybe on my profile or sumthing. I will post a few pics on a thread soon as i am pretty sure its just potassium/phosphporous problem and overwatering in the veg room. I had to stop growing over winter and its like i got to go through every problem again, kind of wish i was in hydro not soil somedays!!

 

[Niko Bellick]

Not yet, mite do a journal in a month or so, i'm getting to that point soon but battling with leaf drop and soil problems in veg. I have done a thread on my problems you might be able to find posted by me but i have lost it now, maybe on my profile or sumthing. I will post a few pics on a thread soon as i am pretty sure its just potassium/phosphporous problem and overwatering in the veg room. I had to stop growing over winter and its like i got to go through every problem again, kind of wish i was in hydro not soil somedays!!

I started in hydro never grew soil, had my share of problems but I like how forgiving hydro is (at least to me)

 

[sparkafire]

I started in hydro never grew soil, had my share of problems but I like how forgiving hydro is (at least to me)

Oh amen to that! Farmed all my life, I have a huge garden but my first love is hydro Its funny there is such a thing as a green thumb, you see it on here all the time some do not even have brown ones LOL