TXskunkKush
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Are there any brands of fertilizers that anyone could recommend that are cheaper or easier to obtain than those that must be purchased on the web. Such as miracle gro.
Inexpensive Fertilizers?
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cannabis420420
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there's really no cheap nutrients 
you can try fox farm nutrients quarts go for like 20 bucks each .......or botanicare really reputable companies
you can try fox farm nutrients quarts go for like 20 bucks each .......or botanicare really reputable companies
cannabis420420
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if you ask bontanicare for free nutrients they will send you some free little samples
SimonD
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jimmy jones
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I use compost and manure in my soil(both free) add some bone and blood meal(about 6 bucks each) and water with alaskan fish ferts(9 bucks a bottle) when needed. Boom. 20 bucks gets you from start to finish.
Gastanker
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Go organic. My local garden store (and likely one of yours) has the following:
alfalfa meal 2-1-1 $0.89/lb
bone meal 0-20-0 $0.89/lb
feather meal 12-0-0 $1.14/lb
kelp meal 0-0-12 $0.99/lb
green sand, fish meal, and a ton others for around the same price.
A pound lasts a long time. 1lb each of feather meal, bone meal, and kelp meal and you would be set for quite a while and have your N, P, and K met.
alfalfa meal 2-1-1 $0.89/lb
bone meal 0-20-0 $0.89/lb
feather meal 12-0-0 $1.14/lb
kelp meal 0-0-12 $0.99/lb
green sand, fish meal, and a ton others for around the same price.
A pound lasts a long time. 1lb each of feather meal, bone meal, and kelp meal and you would be set for quite a while and have your N, P, and K met.
That 5hit
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can this same setup be used for hydro
and if so, how and in what mix (how much)
and if this is only for soil, how do you mix it (how much 1 cup of each, per gal of soil)
and do i have to use a certain type of soil
TXskunkKush
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i want something similar to grow big for vegetative growth. . . But Grow big has to be ordered and i dnt wanna go thru the hassle
cannabis420420
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if you get it just fallow the instructions and its better to under fertilize the plants than 2 much it can burn the hell out of plants but its good stuff
Nullis
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For soil, Espoma -Tone brand plant foods: balanced, complete, fully organic and quite widely available. These plant foods cost about $9 for a 2lb bag and include beneficial microbes. You'll definitely want to get the Bio-Tone Starter Plus to mix into the soil from the start, then you could follow up with the Plant-Tone and/or Flower-Tone just prior to bloom (top feed). If at all possible get some High N and/or P guano (for bloom) which is quite potent organic fertilizer. You can substitute some other organic product high in Nitrogen for the guano... even MG sells such a product, liquid beet molasses, I believe. Bone meal will work in place of high P guano, just a different fert dynamic there. There is also MG blood meal for N but raw blood meal is kind of a nasty product and also more prone to burn your plants.
Blackstrap molasses is a good thing to use along with these, a couple teaspoons per gallon every watering (it will provide K, trace elements and also stimulate the microbes in the Espoma plant food). What I have described here should cost you between $18-$28 depending on how many products you buy but at the very least a Tone product, high P guano or bone meal for bloom and molasses.
Blackstrap molasses is a good thing to use along with these, a couple teaspoons per gallon every watering (it will provide K, trace elements and also stimulate the microbes in the Espoma plant food). What I have described here should cost you between $18-$28 depending on how many products you buy but at the very least a Tone product, high P guano or bone meal for bloom and molasses.
woodsmaneh!
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No way dude
woodsmaneh!
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You can use CIL bone & Blood meal along with CIL Tomato Plant food or any other brand. I did 5 grows with the stuff to see how it worked and no issues.
Gastanker
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This will not work for hydro and must be applied to active soil. Sterile soil/coco will not do as these organic nutrients need to be processed by bacteria before becoming available to the plant.
alfalfa meal is really slow release, feather meal is faster, kelp meal real fast, and bone meal varies depending on how it is processed. Nitrogen is for vegetative growth. Potassium for DNA/RNA synthesis, root growth, and flowers. Phosphorous for ATP (energy transfer), roots, and flowers. You want high nitrogen with a little phosphorous and potassium for veg and high phosphorous and potassium for flower. Nitrogen and potassium migrate through the soil based on concentration gradients whereas the phosphorous does not.
You really need to do some reading if you want to do organics right. If you don't care you could always throw a handful of each into the pot and mix real well. Pretty much impossible to burn a plant with organics and they are not salt based like some chemical fertilizers. Worst you can do is overfeed nitrogen and get too much vegetative growth and not enough flowers.
This is roughly what I do:
It's all about maintaining the ideal ratio of N
:K while accounting for time released nutes and immediately available nutes.Here is a chart of roughly my nute schedule:
I aim for a high N with some P to start with, then have the P gradually over take the N around second week of flower, and finally ramp up the K at the end.
On my chart the names of the nutes are just labels - so the second bat guano watering would be in week 3, not week 2, and disburse 5-1-1, the 10-3-1 is there just to remind you of the actual rating on the box.
Dizzle Frost
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when it come to most nutes you get what you pay for
garbage in = garbage out , nutes are one thing you should coin up on, same with medium. Growing aint cheap man lol
garbage in = garbage out , nutes are one thing you should coin up on, same with medium. Growing aint cheap man lol
Pipe Dream
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Not really much of a hassle, I ordered this and it was shipped out w/in a week. Very affordable and what's great too is it isn't unusual cannabis specific ferrtilizer,it's the same kind of stuff you might expect someone growing flowers or some other plant to order and the time is right too. It really doesn't look suspcious at all and I've heard so many great reviews on the product that it's not even like I'm trading qualiy for cost.
Here's what I have been using lately. http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/products_frog1.html (the fruit and flower)I can pick it up at my local shops and it is real affordable (less than 10$)and goes a long way. I also use big bloom (15$) in conjunction with it and it's an all organic alternative to tiger bloom. I am changing to JC to have a little more control of the nutrient strength and comparing synthetic to organics.
Gastanker
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I agree with the garbage in = garbage out but that has nothing to do with how much you spend. Terrible to tell people you need to spend big bucks for great yields.
The OP needs to do a lot of reading. I would recommend something like this - $1 used online
Do a bit of studying and you can grow for dirt cheap
like the pun?/e If you're going hydro spend the $. The above only applies to soil.