Inthecloset68
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Thanks Jason, I have had a look over that before but was unable to find a definative match...I appreciate the help though
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I might consider throwing them out, but this is kind of a trial run with a couple of bag seeds to see how it goes. Just using it to gain some experience before the real deal
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Just flushed, then fed with the same mix as before. Now time to play the waiting game...
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Tap water. PH 6.6 PPM<100
Because I ran so much water through I lost a fair amount of soil out the bottom (the drain hole is pretty big) so I topped it up with the new potting soil mixed with a teaspoon of Lime, then watered through some more...then fed. Probably should have said all that the first time...
Inthecloset68
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Time for another update, and unfortunately a couple more questions.
Although the badly affected leaves might have actually worsened, the plant is still looks pretty healthy and the new growth is looking strong and green. When the plant started showing the yellowing on the first leaves, the new growth that was coming in was also growing in yellow. Hence the yellow tips on the second leaves. Which makes me wonder if the problem may have already passed? Either that or I'm just a wishful thinker. I am starting to wonder maybe I should be pruning the two really bad leaves off, seems like the plant might be wasting resources trying to repair those instead of focusing soley on growing big. Just not sure how much of a shock this would be to a probably already stressed plant of this age? If so, is there anything special I need to know about taking them off?
Also, as it appears I am clearly a growing Noob I am also having trouble with my second seedling. it germinated fine, but since I gave it a first watering it hasnt developed at all. Right now it is 5 days old, and the leaves are turned way under and it's not looking like much growing is taking place. Is there any chance that this could be overwatered? I gave it a good watering on day 2 where I soaked the soil right through, but it seemed to stay wet for way too long. I'm on day 5 now and the soil is only just dry enough now that I might need to water today. I am going to let the soil breath at least until tomorrow though and I'll see how it looks then. Should I have not thoroughly watered the soil in the cup, maybe just a partial watering? I just figured wet the soil, wait til it dries repeat...simple enough? Perhaps not.
Although the badly affected leaves might have actually worsened, the plant is still looks pretty healthy and the new growth is looking strong and green. When the plant started showing the yellowing on the first leaves, the new growth that was coming in was also growing in yellow. Hence the yellow tips on the second leaves. Which makes me wonder if the problem may have already passed? Either that or I'm just a wishful thinker. I am starting to wonder maybe I should be pruning the two really bad leaves off, seems like the plant might be wasting resources trying to repair those instead of focusing soley on growing big. Just not sure how much of a shock this would be to a probably already stressed plant of this age? If so, is there anything special I need to know about taking them off?
Also, as it appears I am clearly a growing Noob I am also having trouble with my second seedling. it germinated fine, but since I gave it a first watering it hasnt developed at all. Right now it is 5 days old, and the leaves are turned way under and it's not looking like much growing is taking place. Is there any chance that this could be overwatered? I gave it a good watering on day 2 where I soaked the soil right through, but it seemed to stay wet for way too long. I'm on day 5 now and the soil is only just dry enough now that I might need to water today. I am going to let the soil breath at least until tomorrow though and I'll see how it looks then. Should I have not thoroughly watered the soil in the cup, maybe just a partial watering? I just figured wet the soil, wait til it dries repeat...simple enough? Perhaps not.
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Kingrow1
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I think you are getting the hang of that plant dude, next watering might be a good time to repot into limed soil, i pestle and mortar my lime down to a fine powder to make it faster acting. As you said it looks like it has passed, give it more time and light feeds, repot at next watering. Think you have learned somthing, did you lime the soil the seedling was in? How much lime? Wouldn't an investment of some cal/mag help you out? I would water around the seedling not the whole pot, allow the water to soak down around the roots but not saturate the pot. More pics of the second seedling please and that other plant looks like it just needs to do some growing now. Peace
chickengutz
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What Cashcrop and Max316 said.
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Inthecloset68
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Thanks Kingrow, although without all the help I probably would have killed her by now haha. Based on your recommendation, I just transplanted into a 2 gal pot with a mix of 4 parts Schultz Potting soil plus, 1 part Mushroom compost, one cup dolopril Lime. I cant believe how quickly these suckers grow roots! It looked like it was almost root bound (although I'm sure its not) . The whole pot came out as one big root ball. I slightly loosened the soil around the roots as I put it in the new pot, then I just filled in around the sides and lightly patted it down. I watered with the same mix as before, but didnt soak the whole pot, just watered well around the roots and a little further out. Added some pics, check out my first 5 leaf set! haha.
Also another close up of my second seedling. still no change, however this morning i added about half a teaspoon of lime to the cup and tilled it in gently then gave a very light water...will be keeping a close eye on it as it looks like life might be hanging in the balance!
Mort Fink
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A whole cup of lime per square foot, wow thats way more than my bag says. I feel you know much more than me though, whats happens when you overdue the lime from your experience? To high PH?
Kingrow1
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A cubic foot of soil is a lot of soil. I did some rough conversions to scale the one cup of lime to a litre of soil, this is just an approximate but one cubic foot of soil is roughly 28 litres of soil. One cup is uk = 250ml us 236ml so call is 250ml and divide this by 28 to give you approximatly 9ml a litre of soil and with one teaspoon being roughly 5ml i'd say a slightly heaped teaspoon per litre of soil. This seems a lot but this is for the fine grade that takes a while to start working.
I grind mine down to a powder with a pestle and mortar to a fine powder and add a level teaspoon per 2 litres of soil maybe a little more. With seedlings i use slightly less. I suppose the idea is to mix the lime in with the soil in the bag, wet it once and leave it a month or so before planting with it. This is not practical for me so i pulverise it to get it to work quicker but use less due to it being very effective. I still have to water with epsom salts every now and again. Also it seemed to cure my calcium deficiencies in some plants by adding the fine powdered lime to the water i watered the plant with and add it that way. Purple stems turned green in 48 hours with new growth showing the best results and then working its way down the plant fixing any cal/mag problem. Results can be seen quite fast once the plant gets cal/mag.
I grind mine down to a powder with a pestle and mortar to a fine powder and add a level teaspoon per 2 litres of soil maybe a little more. With seedlings i use slightly less. I suppose the idea is to mix the lime in with the soil in the bag, wet it once and leave it a month or so before planting with it. This is not practical for me so i pulverise it to get it to work quicker but use less due to it being very effective. I still have to water with epsom salts every now and again. Also it seemed to cure my calcium deficiencies in some plants by adding the fine powdered lime to the water i watered the plant with and add it that way. Purple stems turned green in 48 hours with new growth showing the best results and then working its way down the plant fixing any cal/mag problem. Results can be seen quite fast once the plant gets cal/mag.
Kingrow1
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Out of intrest how much dose your bag ask for and how much soil is in a bag? Thanks as this would be a good point of reference and do you add lime at the moment and still experience cal/mag problems?
Mort Fink
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No problems right now with my plants. I used about 4 tbs spoons per 2 gallon pot. Im just curious and comparing different peoples input. I guess it all depends on the soils ph to begin with, as you may need to put barely any in at all. But what do I know. Second pic shows the usage info.
Kingrow1
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4tbs is about 60ml and two gallons is (i take it it is us gallons) about 7.5 litres call it 8 so 60 divided by 8 = 7.5 so you are adding 7.5ml to a litre of soil of lime and i worked a cup a cubic foot to be roughly 9ml so i guess taking the approximations into consideration that you are adding roughly the right amount and pretty close to what max recomends.
Looks good lime dude. Think we all add similar amounts and guess its good to know that we are doing it like the pros recomend.
Looks good lime dude. Think we all add similar amounts and guess its good to know that we are doing it like the pros recomend.