Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

[gypsygreen]

Hey UB,
I have 4 plants in 15L air-pots about 6 weeks into veg in a 1m x 1m tent. I have 4 main colas on three of the girls after using your topping technique

Not trying to nitpick, but as this is the ADVANCED cultivation section, we should try to get the terminology correct. You have 4 main leaders, not colas. Colas are the lead flower clusters and since you are still in veg, you have none yet. Again, not trying to bust your balls or anything...a lot of folks get this wrong .

Uncle Ben: I did your technique by accident several years ago and couldn't remember what the hell I did to duplicate it. Thanks to you I can now do this for every canna I grow out now. I belong to a UK forum also and I hope you dont mind if I explain this technique to them...giving you the credit of course. They are a great bunch of guys and gals struggling to grow out decent bud in the shitty UK weather and growing season, and Im sure they will benifit from this as I can see less of a mold issue, and mold is the main killer there with the damn rain all fall.

 

[The45King]

if ub leaves then so do i and many others so sort it

 

[Danielsgb]

Why'd he get banned?!

They say spamming from the additive thread, but I say they hate veterans telling how not to waste money on BS Canna specific fertilizers.

Not trying to nitpick, but as this is the ADVANCED cultivation section, we should try to get the terminology correct. You have 4 main leaders, not colas. Colas are the lead flower clusters and since you are still in veg, you have none yet. Again, not trying to bust your balls or anything...a lot of folks get this wrong .

I think I can say he knows the correct terminology, but that is confusing to many. He had to answer what a 'true node' is many times because he couldn't edit his original to clarify. 4 Main Future Colas sounds odd. You are right that would be the correct botanical term, but few would recognize it.
Daniels

 

[rantz]

They say spamming from the additive thread, but I say they hate veterans telling how not to waste money on BS Canna specific fertilizers.

I think I can say he knows the correct terminology, but that is confusing to many. He had to answer what a 'true node' is many times because he couldn't edit his original to clarify. 4 Main Future Colas sounds odd. You are right that would be the correct botanical term, but few would recognize it.
Daniels

Uncle Ben was banned? What is the world coming to?

 

[cannafire]

if ub leaves then so do i and many others so sort it

Wow, talk about lossing a valuable asset.

 

[Harrekin]

They say spamming from the additive thread, but I say they hate veterans telling how not to waste money on BS Canna specific fertilizers.

Nice hidden dig at me there, but no need to be a dick, me and UB had a somewhat heated debate on that thread but its definately not the sort of thing to get someone banned...if the mods came down heavy on him, then they cant use that thread as an excuse, its was heated but mainly civilised.

 

[cannafire]

Just sent Admin a message saying to bring back Uncle Ben, hope you all do the same, looks like my buddy MediMary was banned. His little rep star is gone now.

https://www.rollitup.org/members/admin-1.html

 

[xxRolandxx]

If UB is gone...please ban me and I will remove all my content and posts ASAP. Fuck that! This dude is not only a legend, but an amazingly accessible person. Always willing to answer a question or post some good info.

This is seriously stupid.

 

[PakaloloHui]

Hello: Fellow Growers

I am getting ready to start my next grow and I have experimented with the UB topping method as well as Supercropping and both have done well in the past. I was just wondering if anyone had tried the 4 cola method and also suppercropped as I would think it would do great together. I would assume this should open up the plant and keep the canopy at a nice even level. Any thoughts on trying this, pics would be great if someone has done it. I just finished my AK48 grow and getting ready to start some Blackjack and was thinking of trying a combo of both methods (UB 4 Cola/Supercropping)

Thanks: Stlmatt

If you look at my thread or even my Bonzai White Shark photo albulm, you can see how I got 4+ tops with just one cut, then LST following. I made my first cut between the 7-8 node on my short stalky girls, why I chose here is because of the nodal spacing, the 5th node branching was almost as tall as the 6th node branching.

These are pics from yesterday.

 

[Waiakeauka]

Danielsgb,

What plant yielded more, top after the 2nd node or top after the 3rd node?


Aloha

 

[ray420365]

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Im going back to page 7 to read on.. Drink & Smoke responsibly!

 

[Danielsgb]

Danielsgb,

What plant yielded more, top after the 2nd node or top after the 3rd node?


Aloha

I'm not sure which would. The thing is so many other things can effect yield. Of these 2 Tangerine Dream, the one topped at the 3rd node isn't doing as well. She has been a PIA all along. First it was a cal/mag deficiency, I added some Epsom tea but now I'm wondering if that is causing an antagonist issue with the N uptake. She's cloratic.(sp. ?), not the deeper green. Still 4 to 5 weeks from harvest on these 2.
But all things equal, I would say they are pretty even. Like the 4 Colas would end up weighing like the 6 smaller colas.
I do know this in the beginning of my growing I did a test on 2 clones. 1 natural, 1 topped UB style for 4 Mains. I'd have to review the journal as it's been a year, but if I remember right the topped on was about 7 grams more. I think they were in the 1 oz each.
Daniels

 

[Waiakeauka]

PakaloloHui,

How old your plants? Bra I gotta say the buggha is looking killas! How long ago you ben since you top da buggha?


Mahalo Nui Loa

 

[Danielsgb]

PakaloloHui,

How old your plants? Bra I gotta say the buggha is looking killas! How long ago you ben since you top da buggha?


Mahalo Nui Loa

You'd have to see the whole journal to be sure, but 6 weeks veg. Flowering started 4-9 so about 6 weeks for a supposed 10 week strain. They are suppose to really pack on the weight in the last couple weeks. Here's one from last set of pics.
Tangerine Dream from AMA


Daniels

 

[PakaloloHui]

PakaloloHui,

How old your plants? Bra I gotta say the buggha is looking killas! How long ago you ben since you top da buggha?


Mahalo Nui Loa

Aloha,
Thanks,
When I got my license back from my grower I started the girls the first week of April.
Today the 2 girls are 54 days old.
They were started in 12 oz. party cups for 21 days under a 2' 4 bulb T-5 with many others.
On day 22 some were culled out, then the rest were transplanted into 1/2 gallon grow bags for another 15 days under a 4' 6 bulb.
On day 36 I transplanted 3 plants into 3 gallon pots under the 4' 6 bulb T-5 and gave the remainder plants away to 2 other patients.

On this same day of transplant I had also topped them, between the 7th and 8th node. They were around 9" tall after the topping.

I also stripped the first 3 sets of branches. So I have on 1 girl 3 sets of branches(I broke the 2 top branches after topping) that are nodes 4,5,6 (only one set of these branches have been topped to make up for my damage). And the other girl has nodes 4,5,6,7 left for growth, un-topped since the first, just LST'd.

Oh yeah I also lost 1 of the plants along the way, it turned out to show male pre-flowers so I cut it, now I am down to the 2 girls and 4 auto's that are 8 days now, under the 2' T-5.

So they have been topped for 18 days now.

Since then I have kept bending LST training them, I have also done daily leaf tucking for more light exposure for the new growth.

They are 10" tall now from keeping LST'd and will no longer be LST'd. I will allow a few more days of vertical growth so the bent tops can get some good upright growth and start to flower them this weekend.

I will use the T-5 but switch to the red bulbs of course.

 

[The45King]

ive done this technique all ways now 2nd node from seed gets ya 4 main cola's 2 will be a few inch lower
and less weight at 3rd node ya get 6 cola's 4 mains and 2 crap ones the best way ive found upto now
is to top at 3rd node and take the bottom 2 cuttings off to keep,leaving the 4 mains but these 4 mains
are much more equal in weight and height (fat)

Thanks to ub again your 2 threads cover jst about everything
Peace out

 

[DankBudzzz]

I was really considering trying this technique out this round but never could bring myself to do it. I think I will achieve similar results without topping though with supercropping and lst.

 

[sixstring2112]

Nice hidden dig at me there, but no need to be a dick, me and UB had a somewhat heated debate on that thread but its definately not the sort of thing to get someone banned...if the mods came down heavy on him, then they cant use that thread as an excuse, its was heated but mainly civilised.

you got U.B. banned? WTF? he was the only reason i logged on anymore,fuck,shit,piss ,dick! hey fdd gimme an email when you bring him back,six has left the building,peace.

 

[R3DROCk9]

jus bend down stem instead of topping at the second node and youll get 5, thats right FIVE, main colas instead of four...fuHkn noobs

lol

 

[1oldgoat]

jus bend down stem instead of topping at the second node and youll get 5, thats right FIVE, main colas instead of four...fuHkn noobs

lol

That sounds like a good idea. Have you tried it, or are you just theorizing, based on UB's technique/