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fictionalgrower

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I have read this entire thread today and I have to say Al my hat is off to you sir. I want to ask you what your feelings are about DWC? The reason I ask is that I am currently growing a micro SoG in soil / party cups under my 400w HPS but it's a shitload of work and I too am a lazy stoner. DWC seems to be pretty dummy proof and requires no maintenance other than changing out the reservoir (and obviously setting the correct ppm and PH in each "change"). I have absolutely nothing against the ebb and flow system, my interest is solely on simplicity and the fact that I already have everything for a DWC setup (sterilite containers, air stones, air pumps etc..). I just don't want to have to buy a water pump and another timer if I don't really need to. If I used inorganic nutrients and the 29% peroxide available here in the states I should still be fine right? If I am missing something here please point out my flawed logic.

I appreciate you taking the time to read my trivial question :bigjoint:
 

DIRTHAWKER

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Mad farmer has some 35% h202 called oxygenator. It here in the states, i just dont know if its exactly the right stuff or not?
 

don2009

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I have read this entire thread today and I have to say Al my hat is off to you sir. I want to ask you what your feelings are about DWC? The reason I ask is that I am currently growing a micro SoG in soil / party cups under my 400w HPS but it's a shitload of work and I too am a lazy stoner. DWC seems to be pretty dummy proof and requires no maintenance other than changing out the reservoir (and obviously setting the correct ppm and PH in each "change"). I have absolutely nothing against the ebb and flow system, my interest is solely on simplicity and the fact that I already have everything for a DWC setup (sterilite containers, air stones, air pumps etc..). I just don't want to have to buy a water pump and another timer if I don't really need to. If I used inorganic nutrients and the 29% peroxide available here in the states I should still be fine right? If I am missing something here please point out my flawed logic.

I appreciate you taking the time to read my trivial question :bigjoint:
Thanks fictionalgrower I wanted to ask the same question to Al, but I want my DWC in like a 9 plant SOG all in 1 resvior a long resv and put a couple good airstone in there. Not only I think its easier to maintain but the growth and the roots come out way better to me Im doing aeropnics and a couple single bucket DWC and I luv the way it grows DWC style faster, simple, and it just seems bigger and frostyer buds to me but I want multiple plants in a big resv will that be ok thanks Al, and Fctgrower
 

pdillo

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Mad farmer has some 35% h202 called oxygenator. It here in the states, i just dont know if its exactly the right stuff or not?
Yep: "Oxygenator is a 35% hydrogen peroxide solution. Hydrogen peroxide adds dissolved oxygen to your nutrient solution as well as kills any unwanted bacteria."

Most people say they cant find high grade H2O2, but what they mean is they cant find it for sale online (besides those fools who sell it to drink). Thats because H2O2 generally falls into the 'hazardous chemical' category and shipping hazardous chemicals is highly regulated here in the states. I was able to find H2O2 by doing a search for 'chemical supply' in my city on google maps and poking around. I found a chemical supply house that sold 35% for about $15 a gallon. There where several other local chemical places that sold it, and my town is nothing special! Quite a bit cheaper than oxygenator too :-)
 

Indefinately

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Hey Al,

I went to the trouble of setting up a nice little grow op.
I just doubled your grow thinking I would be at least 1 and a half your yield since I'm no "expert".
Instead I have a bunch of equip just sitting there because I'm not very productive.
And have had poor results cloning.
My flower room is now empty and has been for a fortnight.

:fire:Another issue may be that I smoke pot every day and that would make me "A Lazy Stoner" also........

How do you manage your time and motivate yourself once the "hype" runs out.
I'm about to give up growing......
Problem is I will eventually run out of smoke..... Lol

I only wish I could be as productive as your op.
How much time does your op take to be running smoothly?

All the best to ya mate....
Thanks for your help.
 

Phat B

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Hey Al. Love your F.A.Q. and this thread. Had a quick question about the amount of PH Down I'm using. I have a 24 Liter rez and I have to use 15ml of ph down to get the water from 7.6 down to 5.6. Reading your previous posts it seems like this is an absurd amount of ph down to be using. Is there some type of problem with my rez or is ph down just a "different strokes for different water sources" type of deal? I'm testing with a calibrated milwaukee ph meter and I ran a backup test using a pool kit just to double check.
 

Illegal Smile

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Al, A question from way back at the beginning of the thread where you said to change the water every two weeks because if you feed on top of partially eaten nutes you will have the wrong NPK ratio. I confess that I have been trying the wrong way with no bad results. I'm only changing water once from seed to harvest. I'm not getting the mega yields I see talked about, but I can't imagine the plants looking healthier or the product being better. I've always wondered - don't plants eat what they want and need regardless (within reason) of how much of what is in the water?
 

flamdrags420

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Hey AL, how's spring time this year around for ya? If you have any extra sun out there send some over this way. It's still cold and depressing.
A while back, you were talking about the savings and power consumption of magnetic and digital ballasts. I was wondering if and when you get caught up on more important questions that you could talk about running devices on 115V versus 240V. I see a lot of ballasts come with options for both as do other appliances and devices. I know that some countries are 240V by default where as in the US it's mainly 115V. I hear the reason for these differences is for the most part cost and safety.
Could you elaborate on this please? I don't see or perhaps don't understand how there is a running cost savings of running things at 240V if the pricing is the same per KWH. Meaning at least to me P=IE so I could have a device that is 1000W at 115V and 8.7A or the same device at 1000W at 240V and 4.2A. They are same no?
Thanks for any info you could provide.
 

Shwagbag

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It looks like Al is gone again for awhile and we're on our own. Anyone here ever use insulated coolers as their reservoirs? I need to keep my reservoirs inside my confined space and I'm concerned about the nute solution getting too warm under 1000w.
 

infinitescrog

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It looks like Al is gone again for awhile and we're on our own. Anyone here ever use insulated coolers as their reservoirs? I need to keep my reservoirs inside my confined space and I'm concerned about the nute solution getting too warm under 1000w.
Lot's of people do this, there is a group or thread dedicated to the use of coolers as a dwc res. Most take the lid off, and cut their own from styrofoam w/ net pot holes.
 

Shwagbag

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Lot's of people do this, there is a group or thread dedicated to the use of coolers as a dwc res. Most take the lid off, and cut their own from styrofoam w/ net pot holes.
Cool I will keep looking around. I plan to do ebb and flow, a smaller version of Al's setup and i would feel more comfortable using a cooler than a regular tote for temp reAsons. Thanks for the comments.
 

defcomexperiment

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i use coolers, and i use the lids that come stock. best deal ive found is for jungle green coleman 5 day coolers from walmart for abou $50, they are 120qt or 30gal. i just get a hole saw for whatever size netpots... the inside of the lids on the 5 days is styro.

edited to add:
you can check my journal for information about feedings and other info about my coolers...

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Can someone please give me some direction as to why this is happening to my headband plant. ph is 5.7-5.9, ppm around 600, room temp 76-80, rh about 40%. I'm using GH 3 part nutes

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Thanks for any suggestions
 

pdillo

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Can someone please give me some direction as to why this is happening to my headband plant. ph is 5.7-5.9, ppm around 600, room temp 76-80, rh about 40%. I'm using GH 3 part nutes

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Thanks for any suggestions
It looks kinda like heat stress, but you shouldnt be having heat stress at 76-80. I might recommend raising your PPM to 1000, several nutrient deficiencies cause leaf curl.
 

DIRTHAWKER

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Al or anyone who knows. Can you switch from organic nutes to inorganic nutes after the plants have been vegging for 4 weeks with organic (botanicare)?

I want to experiment with these plants ready to go into flower with Canna aguas and H2O2 . Im hoping that the root slime im getting at week 4 when the roots fill the post and cause poor slow drainage (and slime) will be resolved.
I recently started a new grow and switched from the full botanicare line of (organics) to Canna aquas (inorganic).
I did this so that i could supplement with 35% h202 and keep things nice and clean.

Its been 10 days now (with the canna aquas) and i have had major defiencies from day one. Ive been battling red stems and pale geen leaves with stunted growth. Ive added epsom salt (1/4 tsp per gallon in one reservoir... cal mag in another.. flushed etc etc etc...still weak stunted growth!!! My tap water is 350 with a ph of 6.8. From my understanding my tap water should work well with the the canna aquas line??? Im stumped??

I switched one of my 3 systems back to botanicare , and after 2 days the plants started recovering and became vigorous again. Im very dissapointed beacuse i really wanted to run the canna with h202..to fight off the bad bennies. Also spent a good chunk of change on it.
 

DIRTHAWKER

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I recently started a new grow and switched from the full botanicare line of (organics) to Canna aquas (inorganic).
I did this so that i could supplement with 35% h202 and keep things nice and clean.

Its been 10 days now (with the canna aquas) and i have had major defiencies from day one. Ive been battling red stems and pale geen leaves with stunted growth. Ive added epsom salt (1/4 tsp per gallon in one reservoir... cal mag in another.. flushed etc etc etc...still weak stunted growth!!! My tap water is 350 with a ph of 6.8. From my understanding my tap water should work well with the the canna aquas line??? Im stumped??

I switched one of my 3 systems back to botanicare , and after 2 days the plants started recovering and became vigorous again. Im very dissapointed beacuse i really wanted to run the canna with h202..to fight off the bad bennies. Also spent a good chunk of change on it.
Its only fair to say that i was wrong in my statement about the canna. It turns out that i am infested with root bugs from clones i bought from a local idiot!! I thought it was defiencies but it was the bugs. Time to start over.
 
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