It's A Fuct World

jojodancer10

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hello family, hello DR. al. got a qusetion? my ph with my moms get high every 3 days i dont know why. so i just keep lowering the ph back down to 5.4! my mpms are in 5gal buckets hydro farm with hydrton. food i use is gh. anyone can help?
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
hello family, hello DR. al. got a qusetion? my ph with my moms get high every 3 days i dont know why. so i just keep lowering the ph back down to 5.4! my mpms are in 5gal buckets hydro farm with hydrton. food i use is gh. anyone can help?
Rising pH is indicative of a high level of pathogen infection in the roots- root rot. This is usually caused by poor drainage or bad system design where roots are allowed to sit in stagnant water (water which has lost all dissolved oxygen). Replace the watering system with one where roots cannot sit in stagnant water, i.e. tray-based flood & drain system. Treat nute solution with 50% grade H2O2 @1ml/L. Treating the nute soln with H2O2 will not by itself fix the problem- the watering system must be replaced with something that will not allow the roots to sit in stagnant water.
 

pdillo

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Try some pantyhose material stretched tightly across the intake. Should pass enough air but will catch larger dust particles. Works on my bud dryer. Clean or replace the filter material periodically. You can tell if you're not getting enough air if the surfaces of the cooltube get warm.
Thanks, heres what I ended up coming up with, put some pantyhose material over the intake end of the tube. The 2 foot wide batwing doesnt quite have the spread of a adjust-a-wing, but a million times better than the reflector that came with the thing:

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Yep, I take the buds off the stem before putting them in the dryer. When I manicure, the fan leaves and larger bud leaves get trimmed off first, then I snip the buds off the stems and finish leaf removal. This way, once the dryer has done its job, the buds are ready to bag up or smoke.
Thanks again. I may as wel show you this fuct inspired bud dryer I made out of this food dehydrator I found at a thrift store. The heating element is hooked up to a dimmer and the dimmer to a thermostat. Has a 120mm axial blowing air thru a carbon scrubber.

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And of course a totally fuct clone box:
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:-P
 

pdillo

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Thank ya. Who knows how I would be killing plants these days if I had never read your threads. ;)

Are you still doing around 2.6 plants per square foot? Do you think 4 per square foot is really enough room to get decent light penetration? Also, how important do you think light-proofing the res is when running h2o2?
 

jojodancer10

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DR. al i have a waterfarm system for my mom's with a 6inch air stone that runs 24/7, how can i have rot root? no disrespect. and one more question , i dont know if you were asked this question before but, what are your thoughts on the lucas formula? or should i stick with the directions on the lable
 

joe macclennan

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Thank ya. Who knows how I would be killing plants these days if I had never read your threads. ;)

Are you still doing around 2.6 plants per square foot? Do you think 4 per square foot is really enough room to get decent light penetration? Also, how important do you think light-proofing the res is when running h2o2?
i believe al runs sog so 4 per sq.ft would be perfect.but if you plan on topping or cloning off of yours it may not be enough room
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Are you still doing around 2.6 plants per square foot?
Yep.

Do you think 4 per square foot is really enough room to get decent light penetration?
While you can do it, it's a bit tight for my tastes and can lead to poor bud density down low on the plants.

Also, how important do you think light-proofing the res is when running h2o2?
Not very. If you're getting algae groth in the tanks, block light to them. If not, they're probably shaded enough for you to not bother.

DR. al i have a waterfarm system for my mom's with a 6inch air stone that runs 24/7, how can i have rot root?
Waterfarm can allow roots to grow down into the res below the media container, leading them to be constantly submerged. When this happens, Waterfarm begins acting like a bubbler instead of a drip system given the presence of the airstone. In this case, adding H2O2 50% grade @ 1ml/L to the res every 3-4 days becomes critical to prevent root rot, as does 100% reliable 24/7 air supply to the roots.

Just looked back at your post I replied to the other day (hurriedly) and noted you are setting your pH at 5.4. No. should be 5.8.

I'm willing to bet that if you inspect your rootmasses, you find some root rot. Check for funky smell. Few things cause pH to bump up as you describe quite as reliably as root disease. Fungus gnats aka sciarid fly can also spread fungi into the rootmasses. Result is the same.

i believe al runs sog so 4 per sq.ft would be perfect.but if you plan on topping or cloning off of yours it may not be enough room
Hi Joe. While I appreciate you wanting to participate and be helpful, kindly let me address questions directed at me. Get a couple of years under your belt, reliably growing successfully before you start answering queries.
 

whuh

Active Member
Hey Al. So with 2 mothers, to take 16 clones every 2 weeks (8 from each plant) should I use a 250w or 400w? The clones will also be in the same area.... It's a 3x3x7 box.
 

Shwagbag

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OMG welcome back Al, I've been here a couple months, read many of your posts, thank you for contributing! :clap: Any recommendations where to get H202 50%?
 

jojodancer10

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thanks Al , i will get my ph up to 5.8 asap.. i alos bought some root zone from D.M and hygrozome that seems to be working but i will go buy h202. thanks for all your help al !
 

DIRTHAWKER

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Al or anyone who knows. Can you switch from organic nutes to inorganic nutes after the plants have been vegging for 4 weeks with organic (botanicare)?

I want to experiment with these plants ready to go into flower with Canna aguas and H2O2 . Im hoping that the root slime im getting at week 4 when the roots fill the post and cause poor slow drainage (and slime) will be resolved.
 

pdillo

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Hey Al, another random question for ya: When running a thermostatic dimmer and an intake fan, can you hook 1 thermostatic dimmer up to BOTH your intake (axial) and your exhaust (centrifugal)? Or would dimming 2 motors with the same fan speed controller create 'issues'? (Assuming you are working within the amperage rating of the thermostatic dimmer, of course)

Also wanted to ask a question about ozone generators, do you happen to know why Uvonair ozone generators soooo much more expensive than the Cap OZN-1 generators? Both are UV, yet the Cap generator claims to cover about twice the area for about half the price. The reason I ask is cuz I'm thinking about adding an ozone unit on top of my carbon scrubber for super-duper odor control :smile:, good idea? Oh yeah, I should mention I grow in a basement, so ozone would be distributed to my basement/crawl space… I imagine an added bonus would be killing mold n' other dankness… but should I worry about the o3 seeping up into the living area?
 

flamdrags420

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Hey Al, another random question for ya: When running a thermostatic dimmer and an intake fan, can you hook 1 thermostatic dimmer up to BOTH your intake (axial) and your exhaust (centrifugal)? Or would dimming 2 motors with the same fan speed controller create 'issues'? (Assuming you are working within the amperage rating of the thermostatic dimmer, of course)

Also wanted to ask a question about ozone generators, do you happen to know why Uvonair ozone generators soooo much more expensive than the Cap OZN-1 generators? Both are UV, yet the Cap generator claims to cover about twice the area for about half the price. The reason I ask is cuz I'm thinking about adding an ozone unit on top of my carbon scrubber for super-duper odor control :smile:, good idea?
I have almost the same question. I was wondering if you could go one step further and run 1 power bar outlet on 1 speed controller thus attempting to control the settings for multiple fans.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Hey Al. So with 2 mothers, to take 16 clones every 2 weeks (8 from each plant) should I use a 250w or 400w? The clones will also be in the same area.... It's a 3x3x7 box.
For 16 cuttings every 2 weeks, I'd run about 4-5 mums. Functionally, you may only need 3 well-developed mums, but you need room for a couple of mums that are being raised up as replacements. I'd not want to try to do clones in the same space as the mums. Clones are a bit more finicky about temp control and it's easier to control temp in a separate, smaller clone box.

OMG welcome back Al, I've been here a couple months, read many of your posts, thank you for contributing! :clap: Any recommendations where to get H202 50%?
Apparently, it's hard to get 50% in Nth America for some stupid reason. 29% is common and available in (shudder) health food shops, where they sell it intending for people to DRINK the stuff (which you shouldn't EVER do). The dosage for 50% grade is 1ml/L. 50/29=1.72 so for 29% H2O2, use 1.7ml/L.

thanks Al , i will get my ph up to 5.8 asap.. i alos bought some root zone from D.M and hygrozome that seems to be working but i will go buy h202. thanks for all your help al !
Beware magic sauces. H2O2 always works. Of course, in case you're not aware, you cannot use H2O2 with organic nutes.

Al or anyone who knows. Can you switch from organic nutes to inorganic nutes after the plants have been vegging for 4 weeks with organic (botanicare)?
Yep, no problem.

I want to experiment with these plants ready to go into flower with Canna aguas and H2O2 . Im hoping that the root slime im getting at week 4 when the roots fill the post and cause poor slow drainage (and slime) will be resolved.
H2O2 & inorganic nutes will fix things right up.

Hey Al, another random question for ya: When running a thermostatic dimmer and an intake fan, can you hook 1 thermostatic dimmer up to BOTH your intake (axial) and your exhaust (centrifugal)? Or would dimming 2 motors with the same fan speed controller create 'issues'? (Assuming you are working within the amperage rating of the thermostatic dimmer, of course)
..thermostatic dimmer? huh?

Dimmers will not work as motor speed controllers (MSCs).

You can use a single motor speed controller to control multiple fan motors, within the current handling capacity of the MSC.

Also wanted to ask a question about ozone generators, do you happen to know why Uvonair ozone generators soooo much more expensive than the Cap OZN-1 generators? Both are UV, yet the Cap generator claims to cover about twice the area for about half the price. The reason I ask is cuz I'm thinking about adding an ozone unit on top of my carbon scrubber for super-duper odor control :smile:, good idea? Oh yeah, I should mention I grow in a basement, so ozone would be distributed to my basement/crawl space… I imagine an added bonus would be killing mold n' other dankness… but should I worry about the o3 seeping up into the living area?
Good question. If they're both UV based, there's no reason to pay more for the Uvonair. Quite often, inexpensive O3 generators are of the high-voltage type, which will generate nitrogen oxides and thus nitric acid when NOx combines with H2O vapour.

It's true that you do not want to be breathing O3. However, if there's reasonably good airmass isolation between the basement and habitable spaces, it should be OK. Also, O3 molecules are broken down when they come in contact with susceptible, oxidisable molecules, thus consuming the O3 (and doing so rather quickly, I might add). My O3 gens do a great job at both killing scents and mould/fungi. If you ever detect the scent of O3 in the living spaces, put the O3 generator on a timer and run it perhaps 30mins/hr. Adjust duty cycle as required.

I have almost the same question. I was wondering if you could go one step further and run 1 power bar outlet on 1 speed controller thus attempting to control the settings for multiple fans.
Yes, you can do that, no problem. However, you may find that different fan motors respond to running on a single MSC by spinning at different speeds. Make sure that no fans stall or spin too slowly as this may cause their armatures to overheat. It may work out better in the end to just use separate MSCs. They're not that expensive.
 

pdillo

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Cool, thank ya.

Right, thermostatic fan motor speed controller would of been the more proper label… I've learned the hard how to melt incandescent dimmers, haha :dunce:
 
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