420blazeit
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Ok cool thank you
The 12-12 From Seed Thread
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richard rahl
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hey del and jimmy....could you guys give me more info on your grow boxes...dimensions/fans/lights etc. if its earlier in the thread just tell me to look back and i will no prob there, just dont remember seeing it and im interested in u guys setups. i have a ghetto card board box setup right now and will b building a better one, just wanna have all my ducks in a row when i do. I like my cfl's and thats all i can afford right now, but wanna set up for the eventual hps i would love to get. idk what size hps i would need or the space i need. i want a small perpetual(not micro but small), mayb room enuf to chop 1 plant every week. i know plants dont all flower the same so how many plants would i need to make room for for that and what space/light requirements would i need for the said amount of plants? I have a box that i would maybe keep a mother or two in under cfls and maybe try clones too, but def seeds to start off. also thinkin bout using coco and would appreciate more info on good nutes and how much to feed in coco. I dont have the mula to get all at once, but i could buy stuff here and there and eventually get everything i need to start. thanks ahead for the info....u guys are great
jimmygreenfingers
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I use 3 cabs mate, one is from BC Northern lights the model is the producer the other 2 are ones i built out of metal storage cupboards ill stick pics up later today. Look at the space you have available for your cab and go from there, i would think a 400w is the min for a small perpetual grow where you can harvest a plant a week. All my lights are air cooled, i have no heat issues at all with these and it cuts down on large extractor fans and i use PC fans for intakes. without knowing how much space you got cant really advise you on what you need let us know roughly the size of the cab your thinking about and we will point you in the right direction mate. As for nutes i use AN sensi and hesi both very good, how much feed depends on the plant tho.
del66666
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hi mate.............you start where you start.with me it was a 200 cfl and a fasn to blow air on it.....................no sorry was some 10 watt strip lights lol.............i have a wooden self buid cab from b and q............1.2m x 1m x 1.4m hi.............did have a 250 and 400 watt but now have a 600 watt and a 400 watt dual spec bulbs, 600 has a diamond reflector and the 400 has a euro reflector........i have a passive intake with a 4inch and 5 inch inline pulling air out............i use coco blocks which you soak and canna and hesi feed............pk13/14 or hammerhead pk in flower, feed every or every other day...........oh yeah got a smaller cab i use a 250 cfl to start my plants off........
jimmygreenfingers
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These are the cabs i built, both exactly the same. Standard metal storage cabinets converted into a grow box, two door steel cupboard 1830 x 915 x 458mm. It has 400w hps using cool tubes, 5in theromstatic extractor which pulls air through a filter then through the cool tube and out the back of the cab with a small PC fan for intake. This is a work in progress lol still need maylar in the cab and a few more mods but on the whole works well.
richard rahl
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thanks guys. that helps alot. i like those cabinets jimmy. i could put one of them in my shop, but for now im thinkin bout building a box to fit in the bottom of my closet. i can get a box about 4' x 2' x 2.5'h. my cardboard box is bout 2x2x2.5 right now. i just dont know if i should find a place to get more height or if it is possible to do any good with 2.5 feet high. i know i could control the plant that high, but would yields suffer from it. and that cool tube looks cool are they expensive? what size hps for the dimensions i gave for my closet? thanks guys
jimmygreenfingers
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Yeah ive heard that before, as the saying goes a bad tradesman blames his tools lol. Nothing wrong with them in my book the one and only issue with a cooltube is the light spread other than that there very good, not as good as other air cooled hoods but for the money well worth it.
jimmygreenfingers
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Have you thought of SCROG then height wont be an issue other than that then somewhere else may be a good idea. Apart form your height issue your cabs a bit bigger than mine and i use a 400w hps, a bit of an over kill really but i have no heat problems so 400 does me or you can opt for a 250w hps. LST wont effect yeilds at all so if you gotta do it then go for it, cooltubes are very cheap compared to other air cooled hoods and are perfect for grow cabs or enclosed spaces.
RobbieP
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I disagree , without cooltube my temps are 35 degrees , using cool tube i get 27 degrees max , well worth the money !
bamslayer
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what do u use it for man n how often?
have u any pics of stuff uv used it with and if im usin these auto fems should i b usin the blue or red spectrum light even tho its an auto?
as in do these seeds flower from seed automatic and wont do a veg cycle?
RobbieP
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Autos still veg mate , autos just go from veg into flower automaticly without having to trigger flower with 12/12. can u run both at same time?? if not run the veg spectrum for 3-4 weeks until you see white hairs then switch to flower spectrum till finish
del66666
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never done autos mate but i presume blue till hairs then id run both.............used to have 3 x 200 enviros side by side in a tiny cupboard.......use it now to start plants for first few weeks....they grow lovely compact bud but by hps standard they are slow and buds arent as dense...........pics are coming up........
del66666
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you horrible bastard, cant believe you disagree lol.....i guess close up they are good, hows the spread of light cause i hear its restricted?
RobbieP
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Sorry del , love you really! lolThe reflector you get with them is shite but i just converted a normal reflector and stuck that on the tube worksloads better
del66666
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ah there you go then you made improvements.........they should hire you mate
The reflector you get with them is shite but i just converted a normal reflector and stuck that on the tube worksloads better