Dave's 2nd Grow - LSD in Bubble/DWC with Fogger

[daveroller]

Seems like you'll have to...godda make room for buds. Sucks to cut once your in flower. But stable genetics are DEF a plus.
I'd say prob the lower one, then lower the light until it's about as close as it is now, as long as your not burning the leafs moving up as needed. If you go with the higher one, you may run out of room with bud development. But...I can't see it in my head really, I don't know the actual lengths. So, go with what you feel!

Thanks.... This plant is growing like crazy towards those lights. And cutting is probably the best thing to do. Too many branches to try to bend them all over. I think that would do a lot of damage if I tried.

I'm also thinking of putting a sheet of thin plastic over the front of those fluorescents. They're only too hot if a nug gets within about an inch of one of them. So even if they do grow too tall again, that would be a good backup to keep them from getting damaged.

 

[daveroller]

Day 18 of Flowering Phase

OK, I bit the bullet and chopped off the tops of my plant's tallest branches, unfortunately with a lot of nice, little preflowers. Here's what she looks like now:

I'm afraid I didn't chop down far enough, but we'll see. I still want to cover the front of the main light fixture with a sheet of clear plastic, which I hope will protect any nugs growing up there from touching the warm tubes.

Here are 2 pics of the roots from today:

I tried to take closeups of the places where I pruned, but my iPhone doesn't seem to have a manual focus, so they all turned out blurry. Sorry. Here's one of them:

Did I do the right thing by chopping these branches down?​

 

[lordjin]

The chop was a little late imo, but not an egregious error by any means. Earlier chopping (like when the plant is still pretty small) results in much earlier diversion of energy, resulting in more solid maturity from the remaining tops forming the multiple split.

I would say that you had to do something about your height control issue, and you did it. Your plant should be fine and she'll concentrate the flow of energy to whatever is left on the branch and those tops should size up. I could not tell from your earlier photos that you would have this stretch since the strain is mainly an indica cross... But you never really know what the plant is gonna do until does it when you're dealing with a strain for the first time.

It looks really good overall, and the fact that you're growing hydro means that the direct to root feeding will make the plant regenerate vigorously where you cut it.

 

[lordjin]

For what it's worth, if you ever plan to grow that strain again, it looks ideal for a scrog. Boy, if you had just put some chicken wire over that sooner... Next time.

 

[dajosh42069]

Chicken wire is sharp and cumbersome. I recommend plastic fencing, like you see with construction. Or even better, a screen of string tied to 2x4's built in the form of a screen. Ya know?

 

[lordjin]

Chicken wire is sharp and cumbersome. I recommend plastic fencing, like you see with construction. Or even better, a screen of string tied to 2x4's built in the form of a screen. Ya know?

Yes. I've come to regard 'chicken-wire' as more of a generic term. String and plastic are better. Agreed.

 

[Snickerdoodle]

It's always hard chopping on the plants! They're resilient though, and she'll be just fine.

On the note about putting thin plastic over the lights, that is a big no-no! It blocks out some spectrums of light and really cuts down on the light penetration. With Flouro you're already at a disadvantage there and you want those lights to be as bright as they can be and as close as possible to your plants. Just a helpful tip for a CFL grower

 

[lordjin]

It's always hard chopping on the plants! They're resilient though, and she'll be just fine.

On the note about putting thin plastic over the lights, that is a big no-no! It blocks out some spectrums of light and really cuts down on the light penetration. With Flouro you're already at a disadvantage there and you want those lights to be as bright as they can be and as close as possible to your plants. Just a helpful tip for a CFL grower

She's right. I don't know anything about using cfl's.

 

[ChairmanMaow]

I think you would have been better off pinching the tops right as you went into flower. Since you had about a 2 week wait for preflowers to show, you would have been able to get double/triple bud-sites. I know it's all coulda-woulda-shoulda at this point, but I thought I'd share some of my experiences with you. I'm not going to link any pictures in, but I'm sure you've seen a few in our grow. Some of the smaller plants I'm working on have triple-tops coming out of one shoot.

It's definitely a sight to see, and maybe something to consider next grow?


Otherwise, looking fantastic. It looks like raising the roots out of the water is doing something crazy to them

 

[daveroller]

I think you would have been better off pinching the tops right as you went into flower. Since you had about a 2 week wait for preflowers to show, you would have been able to get double/triple bud-sites. I know it's all coulda-woulda-shoulda at this point, but I thought I'd share some of my experiences with you. I'm not going to link any pictures in, but I'm sure you've seen a few in our grow. Some of the smaller plants I'm working on have triple-tops coming out of one shoot.

It's definitely a sight to see, and maybe something to consider next grow?


Otherwise, looking fantastic. It looks like raising the roots out of the water is doing something crazy to them

Thanks for the advice on that. I was too much of a newb to know that I was going to have a height problem at that point. So it sounds like I can chop/pinch down a plant anytime during the veg phase up until just before preflowers form and it will increase yield.
I'm learning a lot from yous guys.

 

[daveroller]

It's always hard chopping on the plants! They're resilient though, and she'll be just fine.

On the note about putting thin plastic over the lights, that is a big no-no! It blocks out some spectrums of light and really cuts down on the light penetration. With Flouro you're already at a disadvantage there and you want those lights to be as bright as they can be and as close as possible to your plants. Just a helpful tip for a CFL grower

That's a very good piece of information that just prevented me from making a big mistake. You are a CFL guru. Instead, I'll just watch the tall branches and if they get near the lights, I'll just bend them away from them.
Thanks.

 

[daveroller]

For what it's worth, if you ever plan to grow that strain again, it looks ideal for a scrog. Boy, if you had just put some chicken wire over that sooner... Next time.

Ok, next time I'll try setting up a screen parallel to the lights and as close to them as I dare to. I have the lights in my cabinet tilted at about a 45 degree angle because that's the only way that I can make them fit with the doors closed. The lights are about 3 ft deep. So once I start training the branches into the screen, they'll have a good 3 feet of potential growth to fill it up. I'll have to take note of how long they grow this time. I do want to try again with this strain and apply the lessons that I learned this time around.
Thanks, man.

 

[daveroller]

Chicken wire is sharp and cumbersome. I recommend plastic fencing, like you see with construction. Or even better, a screen of string tied to 2x4's built in the form of a screen. Ya know?

I was thinking maybe a pvc frame with cotton strings strung across in a grid pattern, which would be easy for me to build.
Nice tip.

 

[daveroller]

Saturday night I had to go to the emergency room with a case of sepsis, a potentially fatal infection in the blood. Don't ever get this. It's not fun. Just before I left, I tried to give my wife instructions for taking care of my plant. And unfortunately, the fogger wasn't working at all and I spent an hour in a fever-induced stupor trying to figure out how to get it going again. I never did succeed in that. So I told my wife today after my head was clearer to remove the top half of a gallon water jug which I had been using to prop up the roots above the surface of the water. I'm really afraid of leaving this in her hands, but I don't have any choice.

Anyway, I'll be in the hospital until at least Friday, so won't be able to upload any updates for a while.

 

[lordjin]

Ok, next time I'll try setting up a screen parallel to the lights and as close to them as I dare to. I have the lights in my cabinet tilted at about a 45 degree angle because that's the only way that I can make them fit with the doors closed. The lights are about 3 ft deep. So once I start training the branches into the screen, they'll have a good 3 feet of potential growth to fill it up. I'll have to take note of how long they grow this time. I do want to try again with this strain and apply the lessons that I learned this time around.
Thanks, man.

It's all about what we learn for the next grow. Your T5's are pretty hot as far as fluoros are concerned, but once you have a net barrier of some sort keeping them down, you'll have a lot more breathing space... And more bud (in theory).

 

[lordjin]

Saturday night I had to go to the emergency room with a case of sepsis, a potentially fatal infection in the blood. Don't ever get this. It's not fun. Just before I left, I tried to give my wife instructions for taking care of my plant. And unfortunately, the fogger wasn't working at all and I spent an hour in a fever-induced stupor trying to figure out how to get it going again. I never did succeed in that. So I told my wife today after my head was clearer to remove the top half of a gallon water jug which I had been using to prop up the roots above the surface of the water. I'm really afraid of leaving this in her hands, but I don't have any choice.

Anyway, I'll be in the hospital until at least Friday, so won't be able to upload any updates for a while.

I'm sure it'll be fine. Your health is the main thing.

 

[daveroller]

I removed the embedded photos that I linked to in previous posts, in case you're wondering where they went. It was a security concern. I got sloppy.

 

[dajosh42069]

Good news my friend, I just surfed your entire journal and checked all the pics, none of them have ANY info. The pics uploaded to RIU seem to have the EXIF (geo) info removed, so your back to being another faceless grower in a faceless crowd!!

Take a couple minutes, research how to remove the geotag function from your iphone and disable your GPS feature, and you should be safe to take pics again. However, if your really interested in take pics to put on here, i'd just get a cheap little digi cam, they're easy to use, usually have Macro (closeup) modes, which make it incredibly easy to take pics of plants.

Or lastly, if your uncomfortable doing either, then stop posting pics. I know it sucks, but...your safety and freedom outweigh any possible benefit gained by posting a grow journal.

Either way, the plant was looking beautiful last any of us saw it, and your doing a great job on it.
And if you DO end up shutting the journal down, feel free to PM me pics, and/or questions if you ever need any help but don't wanna post it on the main thread. I've already deleted any/all info extracted, so, no worries there.
Main thing right now is to focus on getting over that blood infection, those are HARD to get over. And I can't imagine being infected like that.
AND, if you turn into a zombie, drop me a groan my friend.

 

[daveroller]

Good news my friend, I just surfed your entire journal and checked all the pics, none of them have ANY info. The pics uploaded to RIU seem to have the EXIF (geo) info removed, so your back to being another faceless grower in a faceless crowd!!

Take a couple minutes, research how to remove the geotag function from your iphone and disable your GPS feature, and you should be safe to take pics again. However, if your really interested in take pics to put on here, i'd just get a cheap little digi cam, they're easy to use, usually have Macro (closeup) modes, which make it incredibly easy to take pics of plants.

Or lastly, if your uncomfortable doing either, then stop posting pics. I know it sucks, but...your safety and freedom outweigh any possible benefit gained by posting a grow journal.

Either way, the plant was looking beautiful last any of us saw it, and your doing a great job on it.
And if you DO end up shutting the journal down, feel free to PM me pics, and/or questions if you ever need any help but don't wanna post it on the main thread. I've already deleted any/all info extracted, so, no worries there.
Main thing right now is to focus on getting over that blood infection, those are HARD to get over. And I can't imagine being infected like that.
AND, if you turn into a zombie, drop me a groan my friend.

OMG, I can't thank you enough for checking on that for me, Josh! I am so lucky that the uploaded pics have the EXIF info removed. Whew!!! Dodged a bullet. I have a nice digital camera that I need to dig out when I get a chance and will use that. Was just using the iPhone for convenience, because I always carry that around anyway.

I got a ton of flowers with little white tentacles on them growing all over my plant. But she's growing out of control. I'll post some pics when I get a chance. Just got out of the hospital last night and still feel a little sick. I'm very late changing the water, should have done it last weekend...

 

[dajosh42069]

awesome, can't wait to see them. Sorry about this hospital man, thats horrible. Glad your beating it though!