Short Stuff: Snowryder

PakaloloHui

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:-(Sorry for the late post, but kinda got a little ill. So I will post what I had to post where I had left off and then I will make a second of Todays activities and Update.

But From 6/7 through 6/9 there are no photo's. But Todays will be in the next post.:lol:

On 6/6 the white Sharks were fed a tea that I had brewed up and have recieved water once with Cal-mag+ on 6/8.

The Snowryders on 6/6 and 6/ 8 just got water with Cal-mag+.
 

DankBudzzz

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Everything looks amazing, I'm debating trimming the lower parts of the lst'd plant I have because they are so bushy I'm afriad they are just going to grow small buds on the tops. What do you think?
 

PakaloloHui

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Well, where to start, the Snowryders are looking pretty healthy still. Female (#4), got the light dropped on her today and lost a few leaves and a branch or 2, She was and still is the tallest of the little ladies @ 5 3/4", #1 is 4 1/4" tall, and #2 is 5" tall, or should I say short.

The male however #3 is 10" tall now, he has been placed elsewhere for the time being until he drops his pollen on a piece of paper for me to collect, use, and store fro later backcrossing to the (White Shark x Snowryder) seeds that I hope to produce. He is looking healthy and strong, he has also stretched his legs a bit.


The White Sharks, well, I gave them a upgrade today, probably not the best idea, but did it anyways. When I transplanted them into the 3 gallon pots with subcools supersoil it was 3 weeks before I switched the lights to 12/12. So the Notrogen and other nutrients were already used up and started to fade when I was sick. So I decided to get them each a 6.5 gallon pot, with a bit more supersoil and some Roots organic to top them off. The roots looked very healthy and I sprayed them really good with MycroGrow Soluble, my microbial/bacterial/fungal product. Then they were placed back into their home where they will stay untill done, no more easy watering for me. They were given 1 gallon each of water pH'd to 6.3 with Apple Cider Vinegar, and a half gallon each of the same but the pH was 6.4. The runoff in the tray was around 5.4-5.5 pH. I believe that will be fine becasue of the Supersoil mix. Note the supersoil was mixed in late March and early May, so it has had time to cook and cool a bit.


I sure hope they turn out now, they are now 17" tall at the top of the tallest tops and around 15"-16" for the rest of the tops. The smaller, skinnier flowers will be the ones to get pollenated in a few weeks.

Hope you like the new pics.:lol:

P.S. the pics. that are labeled with their sex day was not taken that day, ALL photo's were taken today.
 

PakaloloHui

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Everything looks amazing, I'm debating trimming the lower parts of the lst'd plant I have because they are so bushy I'm afriad they are just going to grow small buds on the tops. What do you think?
Thanks Dank,

Well I would look at it this way, if you are using a 1000watt go by the amount of light that penetrates your canopy, and at the point where there is no more light below, trim or cut from there below that point.

Another option that you can go by itself or along with the above mentioned is to do supercropping (bending at the point where the smaller tops are.

I just so happened to do that myself and here are the pics I just took of the supercropping. They were 17" tall before at the tallest point, and now they are 12 1/2" tall after. This will also help to strengthen your stems to support your buds. And bring light to your smaller buds until they grow back upright again.

I'm at 12 day into flowering and the stretch should be close to over, and with the transplant today it may be sooner.

I sure hope I got the transplant soil ratio right and doesn't affect my results too much.
 

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PakaloloHui

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bongsmilieThings are looking great today. Everybody was fed a little molasses and microbes in their water today.

I did do some lolipopping on White Shark #2, it is the only one I can reach now to do so, besides I do think that #1 is o.k, it is missing the top 2 branches from me breaking them awhile back. The supercropping has done wonders for the canopy on #2 as you will see in the picture.

I do have my Eye on the flowers to pollenate on White Shark #2, they will be the smallest of the branches that have flowers at the top.

My male Snowryder started to drop a little pollen yesterday and I will wait maybe 5-7 days longer until I collect and pollenate tche chosen ones.

The female Snowryders are doing well themselves, sorry about the lowlight on the pictures today, I should of taken of my polarized filter first since they weren't under the lights when taken.

Enjoy:bigjoint:
 

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They will be put in 1 gallon pots. Soil mixture is layered. 1/4 subs supersoil mixed with a bit of fresh roots/ 1/4" layer of Wormcastings and Alaskan Humus/ Roots Organic topped off with a fine layer of Alaskan Humus about 1/2" worth. I set the 4 pots outside last night to soak up the rain showered water to get moist. Now they are under light getting the soil nice and warm for the seeds to be placed in later today. I will once again sprinkle a tiny amount of MycoGrow in the tiny hole for the seed, then place under 20hrs of light. got a few White Sharks going that is why the light will be set to 20hrs. instead of 24hrs.
Some great info on soil mix right from the start.
and i can find almost anything in my country except MycoGrow which i have never heard before and sounds like the shit for root growth from what I'm reading online.
 

PakaloloHui

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Yeah, that MycoGrow is my microbe and bacteria prodcut. Comparable to your Great White, Tarantula, or any other micbrobial product, got the 1lb. myself, should last several years. I use it once in awhile with my tea's and during transplants. So far can't complain. And if you haven't already ran across Subcool's Soil recipe it is on RIU. It is under the Organics forums, and it is a sticky I believe. There is also a vid. on utube by him that shows the ingredients and him making it.

Hope this helps and keep it organic as much as you can:)
 
I started t brew a tea also today for Monday morning consisting of: Wormcastings, bloodmeal (12-0-0), alfalfa meal (2.1-1-1), 1 tsp of maxicrop soluble, 1 Tbl of HappyFrog bat guano (0-5-0)
This is some info i had found on bat guano. sounds pretty legit from other research i did, so you maybe wanna scratch that off your mix list.. or not.. maybe you wanna puff with some fungal infection into you cause that's the case some times.. maybe rare but still..
it goes by the name Histoplasmosis and makes me wonder why so many deceases have Greek names.. :?

either way if you're not bored read this..

A few bits of info about Bat Guano


The caves of Jamaica, like other caves around the world, face threats to their physical structure, their biodiversity, and the paleoclimatic and fossil records that they preserve. The damage being done to these ancient, underground systems has one source and that is us. The ways that humans cause damage to caves may be broadly grouped into two categories: external and internal.

External factors are activities such as removal of forest cover on, and upstream of, the caves. Deforestation on the land immediately above the system affects the temperature and humidity of the cave below. Deforestation upstream of hydrologically active systems results in the filling up of the cave with silt. A good example of this latter occurence is Clifton Cave in Dolphin Head. Within a generation, it has gone from being a beautiful, biologically rich underground world, to a mud-filled crawl less than a metre high... that which remains of it. This was caused by the complete removal of the trees that once slowed, and held, the seasonal run-off of rain.

Internal factors in the destruction of Jamaican caves are excessive human visitation for the purposes of tourism, and more importantly in Jamaica, mining for bat guano. It is unfortunately little known that the caves of the island are habitats for much more than bats. In caves that have rich deposits of guano, there live many fascinating invertebrates.

Much of the biodiversity of the Jamaican caves is dependent on bat guano as the food resource. The wholesale removal of the bat guano results in the elimination of not only the bats that made it, through repeated disturbance of a creature that lives on the metabolic edge and is easily driven over that edge, but also results in the elimination of almost every species that lived on it. The cave is effectively sterilized and although the bats might eventually return the invertebrates that were lost are gone forever. I invite any wholesalers, retailers, or buyers of Jamaican Bat Guano to join me in a visit to Bristol Cave if you doubt this. Where there was once a colony of tens of thousands of bats, where there was once a myriad of inverterbrate species, now there is nothing thanks to guano mining.

As well as supplying a habitat for living creatures, old guano deposits contain a record of the climatalogical conditions of the island that extends back over thousands of years. They also contain the fossilized remains of ancient creatures that once called these caves home.

Physical damage that can be done to formations, and bone breccia [1], will be unavoidable during the mining process.

There is more to be found in the caves, and the guano, than just a fertilizer that will likely be used for the production of recreational drugs; remove the guano and you remove tens of thousand of years of Jamaica's history and much of the life that still exists there. This damage will be irreversible.

The current biological status of the source caves for the commercially available Jamaican Bat Guano found at hydroponic and gardening stores across North America is unknown, but prudence suggests a careful survey to ensure that the cave systems remain healthy.

Caves, as well as being beautiful, are wonderful biological islands capable of creating their own endemic species, archives of our planet, and are in great need of our protection.

Before purchasing any bat guano fertilizer, one must consider the true need, and the consequences, of using such a product.

Source:
http://www.jamaicanc...n_bat_guano.htm

and it may also be harmfull to your health


ARE YOU EXPOSING YOURSELF TO
HISTOPLASMOSIS ?

Originally published in 1994 "Australian Caver" No. 136, Pages 6-8, Revised for the 1997 ASF conference Quorn S.A.
Written by Garry K. Smith ©

Around the world, hundreds of thousands of people each year are affected by a fungal infection called Histoplasmosis. In many areas of South America, Asia, Europe, Africa and East Central United States, the disease has been found in the droppings of domestic birds, such as fowls as well as starlings and other birds which often nest around houses. To humans this microscopic fungus is potentially fatal if the infection is not treated.

At this stage you are probably saying to yourself, "what has this to do with caving".?

Evidence exists that the fungus Histoplasma capulatum grows in guano, (bat droppings) and that it may be spread by bats flying from one roost cave to another. The fungus can survive in the intestinal contents of bats as well as transmitted to other locations by wind. To date the fungus has been detected in some caves inhabited by the Bent Wing Bat (Miniopterus schreibersii blepotis) however there is no conclusive evidence that it is confined to guano of this bat species.

Other names for this disease include:- "Histo", "cave disease", "cave fever", "Darling's disease", "Ohio Valley disease, "Tingo Maria fever", "reticuloendotheliosis" and "reticuloendothelial cytomycosis".

Habitat of the Fungus.
Histoplasma capulatum is an organism which grows in soil containing a high nitrogen content, generally associated with guano of birds and bats.

The fungus reproduces by releasing spore of 2 to 5 micron in size, to the air. Ideal conditions for this to occur is in caves with high humidity (ie 67% to 87% or more), temperatures of around 20 to 29 degrees C and the presence of dry guano. Many overseas reports have recorded high concentrations of the fungus in guano around poultry sheds. In "open" environments the occurrence of the fungus is generally restricted to between latitudes 45 degrees N and 45 degrees S. Outside of this tropical zone, concentrations of the fungus is restricted to appropriate environmental conditions which can occur in "closed" environments such as caves. This is due to the stable conditions which exist inside caves, where as the surrounding countryside may be too dry or cold for sustained proliferation.

Effect on the Human Body
Histoplasmosis is a fungal infection which can affect the whole body and is caused by inhalation of an aerosol of soil, dust or guano which contains fungal spore. When the airborne spore is breathed in by cavers it may infect the lungs. The degree of infection in humans varies widely, depending on the individual's immune status and degree of exposure to the fungal spores.

In most cases the spore are introduced in such a quantity as to produce a mild form of the disease and thus builds up the bodies immunity to the fungus. This form of infection is referred to as Asymptomatic and the infected person experiences no noticeable symptoms.

When a person is subjected to high exposure, some spore reach the alveoli and begin to germinate. Conversion to an invasive yeast phase takes place, and multiplication occurs by binary fission.

The second form of infection is Acute Pulmonary Histoplasmosis. Symptoms may occur two to three weeks after infection and include a general feeling of being unwell as if suffering a mild influenza with a raised temperature, malaise or tiredness and pleuritic chest pain. In most cases the person with a mild infection quickly recovers with no treatment.

The more severe third form of infection is called Chronic Pulmonary Histoplasmosis. The condition of persons with high exposure and/or low immunity to the fungus, may quickly deteriorate to include fever, night sweating, headaches, shortness of breath, lack of energy, muscular aching, weight loss, dry coughing and severe pain around the lungs. If untreated, the lungs continue to be slowly destroyed and death can occur months or years later from bacterial pneumonia or heart failure.

The most severe form of infection is called Acute Disseminated Histoplasmosis and the yeasts are spread throughout the body via the blood stream.

Overseas statistics show that in a small percentage of cases the disease may disseminate and infect the lymph glands, liver, spleen and other vital organs, resulting in fever and weight loss. Chronic respiratory infections resemble chronic pulmonary tuberculosis. The disease progresses over a period of months to years, possibly with periods of remission. This form is more common in males over 40 and often results in death. Symptoms at the chronic stage may vary, depending on the organs involved. Unexplained fever, anaemia, heart inflammation, meningitis, pneumonia and mucosal ulceration of the mouth, bowel or stomach may be seen. The infection is not transmitted from person to person and there is no immunization presently available.

It may be of interest that Histoplasmosis is not only confined to humans, as other animals such as dogs, cats, rats and foxes are also susceptible to infection.

http://wasg.iinet.net.au/histo.html
 

PakaloloHui

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Yeah, I am aware of the negative affects of working with guano. I do wear a mask, and very gently scoop and add to the tea's and when making my soil the same as well.

I have just recently read a thread about veganics and there was a huge discussion on this topic and use. According to veganics guano's do not qualify, the only exception is wormcastings. Everything in veganics is pretty mumch plant based. I might try that route too one day.
 

PakaloloHui

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Here are a few pics of my White Sharks I took yesterday. They were 74 days old and on day 17 of flowering. They both literally take up all the space under the light (4' x 22").


Pollenation has started 2 days ago on White Shark #2 ,and will continue for a week with a few more flowers from it, and a few flowers from the female Snowryders.


I will post an update later on my project, just about done watering, then I will take some pics. of today.
 

PakaloloHui

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Here is today's update.

Everbody got a tea feeding with Cytopus, McoGrow, and Molasses.

The Snowryders are looking healthy, I have noticed that the hairs are extremely long, flowering has not really bulked up at all yet.

#1 is now 6 3/4" tall
#2 is 6 1/4" tall
#4 is 7 1/4" tall

The male #3 is around 15" tall now and shedding pollen.


The White Sharks are holing up as well. They have been beefing up the stems where I have supercropped them. They took in alot of tea today. The extra day without really helped and I'm sure that they will have a nice growth spurt, or bud formation and swelling:lol:
 

feelingreen

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Your girls (plus Mr. Snowryder) look perfectly healthy, as always. The White Sharks are lush and the Snowryders look like happy plants that haven't encountered any roadblocks/stress in their lives. Have I given you +rep yet? Haha, if not, def today. :weed: Out of curiosity, how much molasses do you use, and which brand? I noticed that there's a big diff. btw. brands in how much calcium, iron, potassium per TB, curious.

You're a patient? MI legalizing medical has been lovely. :leaf:

Edit: 5 stars, too, for all the great info on soil content, nutes/fertilizers, etc., and just a general good grow.
 

PakaloloHui

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Your girls (plus Mr. Snowryder) look perfectly healthy, as always. The White Sharks are lush and the Snowryders look like happy plants that haven't encountered any roadblocks/stress in their lives. Have I given you +rep yet? Haha, if not, def today. :weed: Out of curiosity, how much molasses do you use, and which brand? I noticed that there's a big diff. btw. brands in how much calcium, iron, potassium per TB, curious.

You're a patient? MI legalizing medical has been lovely. :leaf:

Edit: 5 stars, too, for all the great info on soil content, nutes/fertilizers, etc., and just a general good grow.
Thanks,

Molasses, For the very first fwe weeks I was adding about 1-2 tsp. a gallon. Now I am using 1 Tbl. a gallon.
I'm using WHOLESOME SWEETENERS Organic Molasses (unsulpured of course).
http://www.wholesomesweeteners.com/brands/Wholesome_Sweeteners/Fair_Trade_Certified_Organic_Blackstrap_Molasses.html

Yeah, I am definately a legal patient in my state, if I wasn't I would not be proud to say that I TRY to provide myself with a alternative organic herbal medicine, or be on this website making posts and asking questions. I am definately within my states laws of allowed cured/dried/harvested medicine, and also growth restrictions.
 

dam

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Your plants look great man you take great care of them the yield will be really nice looking at how healthy they are you know what you are doing. Big Ups
 

PakaloloHui

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Thanks guys, I really don't know what to expect yet for harvest. Kinda a bit too early to make that kinda edjumakated guess.
 

feelingreen

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Well yeah, it was more so a rhetorical question, silly to even phrase it like that. It was more so a recognition of the joy legalizing MMJ has spread, plus you could be from a few select countries where your grow op was perfectly legit, no matter what. Ya never know from whence someone hails, especially on the Internet ;)

Edit: For instance, Spain knows what's down:

Possession and consumption at a public place constitutes a misdemeanour and is penalized with a fine and confiscation. Growing the plant on private property for personal use, and consumption by adults in a private space is a constitutional right and hence not illegal.
Interesting, the same kind I'm using, I probably should've dialed it back more early on.
 
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