Kushjr42014
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Im currently thinking about getting my card so i can grow what would be good enough withouth a doctor referral because i really dont got a legit reason ??? i need help?? Someone??
Whats a good excuse to get prescribed a medical card without a doctors refferal?
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Kushjr42014
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thanks for the advice unlike some other people who have no life but to talk shit all day and run their mouths becuase it makes them feel good because deep inside their miserable
Kushjr42014
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Get a Life aint nobody asking YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
Katatawnic
Well-Known Member
You're posting on a forum open to the public. Who do you think you're asking?
Kushjr42014
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Im asking people who are kind enough to share the wealth unlike your ignornant asss your to stuck up thinking your the shit when really nobody cares about youYou're posting on a forum open to the public. Who do you think you're asking?
BendBrewer
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Was kinda in the same boat. Could have gone to the doctor and told him I get headaches or have Nausea but I just ended up getting a couple of patients to grow for instead.
Dan Kone
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If you're just growing for other people and don't have a card yourself you are mostly not legal at all. You're not a caregiver unless you can prove you provide other non-cannabis related care services to them and you can't be in a collective with them unless you are a patient.
I'm not trying to hate. Do your thing. But if you think you're legal you are likely mistaken.
BendBrewer
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No, I am legal grower and care giver according to the State of Oregon. They have sent me 2 cards stating just that. Not sure if it even matters but I live with one of my patience. Not sure about the differences between CA and OR laws.
Dan Kone
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Ahh. Yeah. Works different here than in other states. I have a friend in Washington who does that. Was surprised how easy it was up there. He just had to fill out some paperwork with the patient and it was taken care of.
In Cali it's a huge pain in the ass and the like to throw people in jail for claiming to be caregivers. I have a friend who has to run around picking up people's prescriptions and groceries for them to remain a legal caregiver. People get thrown in jail here if they are growing for people and try to claim caregiver.
From Ca Norml:
CAREGIVERS
A "primary caregiver" is narrowly defined under Prop. 215 to be "the individual designated [by a legal patient] who has consistently assumed responsibility for the housing, health, or safety of that person." The law does not explicitly allow patients to have multiple caregivers. In contrast, a caregiver may serve more than one patient.
The State Supreme Court has ruled that defendants are not entitled to a caregiver defense if all they do is grow or supply medical marijuana to patients. In the case People v. Mentch (200, the court ruled: "a defendant whose caregiving consisted principally of supplying marijuana and instructing on its use, and who otherwise only sporadically took some patients to medical appointments, cannot qualify as a primary caregiver." The court went on to specify: "a defendant asserting primary caregiver status must prove at a minimum that he or she (1) consistently provided caregiving, (2) independent of any assistance in taking medical marijuana, (3) at or before the time he or she assumed responsibility for assisting with medical marijuana."
A provision in SB 420 forbids caregivers from having more than one patient outside their own "city or county." The constitutionality of this provision is questionable because it appears to restrict Prop. 215; also, the limitation to a single "city or county" is ambiguous. So far, no appellate court has ruled on the legality of this restriction; while it is included in the Attorney General's guidelines, it has been disregarded in some lower court rulings. Until this legal issue is settled, prospective caregivers are advised to be cautious about trying to serve many clients outside of their "city orcounty."
In general, the courts have held that cannabis clubs cannot serve as legal "primary caregivers" for large numbers of patients. Some persons have claimed caregiver status while growing for multiple numbers of patients on the theory that they are providing for their patients' health or safety. This defense has been successful in court for caregivers growing for small numbers of patients. However, it was rejected by a state court of appeals in the Peron decision, where the court held that Peron's San Francisco Cannabis Buyers' Club could not reasonably claim to function as a "primary caregiver" for its 8000 clients.
In general, dispensaries who cater to walk-in clients should not hope to rely on the caregiver provision. Caregiver growers should limit themselves to a select membership list of patients whom they personally know and who do not have other caregivers. Within these constraints, SB 420 allows caregivers to be compensated for the costs of their services, but it does NOT authorize sale of the marijuana itself for profit.
BendBrewer
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Man, those are some hoops. Here in Oregon, the patient just fills out their application and names a grower and provides the address of the grow site. Sen it in certified mail and you are good to go!
Got mine issued on 4-20!
Got mine issued on 4-20!
d.s.m.
Well-Known Member
Well, yeah I'm pretty sure you did.
And there's still a whole shitload of people out there that are itching to take the medical thing away from us, and they're using shit like this from morons like you as ammunition.
If you aren't bright enough to get this, you have no business growing smoke.
Kushjr42014
Member
its alll good anyways i got my card today
Katatawnic
Well-Known Member
You're the one looking to screw medical users' rights by trying to look for a "good excuse" to get a card you don't need, and you think I'm worried about you caring about me?
It's obvious you don't care about any medical users who are to this day still fighting to keep our rights to treat our real pain, and you're the one acting all hurt that we don't want to help you "play sick" for a card, making a mockery of those of us who have fought tooth and nail to have our medicine.If you don't know how to "play sick," it's not my problem. It is, however, my problem when people like you make posts that anyone can see, asking how you can do exactly what will be the biggest cause for medical rights to be taken away from everyone. They're just waiting for an excuse to take it all away, and it's people like you that will give them that excuse. And what good will that do for the fight to re-legalize MJ across the board? (No reply necessary. It's a no brainer.)
I have no sympathy for people like you. Want to grow legally? Fight your fight now; push for all-out legalization... you know, the fight I've been trying to help others fight, even though it doesn't affect my medical status; but I guess I just don't care about healthy people who want to legally possess and grow pot, huh?
Indeed.
At least, no business growing under the guise of medical, when he's said himself that he has no legit reason to get a recommendation.
Enigma684
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i see where your coming from but fuck the fedz and fuck everyone you shouldnt have to have a card to smoke pot it honestly isnt fair theyre pretty much spitten in our faces and saying bicth you wanna smoke get sick i dont think they will take the medical use of marijuana away cuz thats what the gov wants people to do get them selves sick to lower the population other than that i like what you had to say i personally dont smoke i grow it cuz i love the plant it is beautiful and then i sell thats how i make a living...One love and happy growing
Dan Kone
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That's a good point. I'll stop giving answers to posts like that.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
oh come on now, let's all pretend for one second that everyone out there that has a mmj card has some " illness" that mmj helps.. ok, let's even pretend that half of the people who have a card have some sort of illness... who the fuck are we fooling.. not me, not for one hot minute..
how many people who have a card have been smoking mj before they got their cards? or before they got these illnesses?? let's act like we are all adults here, and atleast pretend to realize that a lot of mmj card holders only get cards to become quazi legal, and not have to worry about getting busted over some bud...
is this a problem, not for me, i could care less why one has a card or doesn't have a card.. i just hate to see all of you card holders up on your soap boxes and act like you're all dying if you don't smoke bud everyday... sugar please...
and don't take this the wrong way and think i don't think that mmj has it's place and does indeed help people, i'd never say that, it's just that i'm not dumb enough to believe that each person that has a card, or even a large percent of them, has a legitimate need for a mmj card, nor do i care..
how many people who have a card have been smoking mj before they got their cards? or before they got these illnesses?? let's act like we are all adults here, and atleast pretend to realize that a lot of mmj card holders only get cards to become quazi legal, and not have to worry about getting busted over some bud...
is this a problem, not for me, i could care less why one has a card or doesn't have a card.. i just hate to see all of you card holders up on your soap boxes and act like you're all dying if you don't smoke bud everyday... sugar please...
and don't take this the wrong way and think i don't think that mmj has it's place and does indeed help people, i'd never say that, it's just that i'm not dumb enough to believe that each person that has a card, or even a large percent of them, has a legitimate need for a mmj card, nor do i care..