Do We Really Want Cannabis be Legalized?

[MistiKmaN]

I mean, I was thinking about it and even if the government did legalise it, they'd heavily tax the shit, worse than cigarettes and alcohol. And that's even if they legalise the recreational form and not just the parts that make them happy. They'd most likely still make the cultivation of cannabis illegal in order to influence the purchase of their 'government approved' products. The sale and distribution of cannabis would still be illegal for those without the correct business license, thus eliminating jobs for drug dealers. Well, that's just what I see happening, so think about it, do we really want to have cannabis legalised?

 

[Dubski]

In my opinion I would love it if they would decriminalize cannabis, I've seen too many people get arrested for possession with dumb amounts like a few grams. Its a harmless plant that is looked down upon by ignorant people, but sadly that's what it is. Legal or not people are going to smoke and nothing can be done to stop that.

 

[tardis]

I mean, I was thinking about it and even if the government did legalise it, they'd heavily tax the shit, worse than cigarettes and alcohol. And that's even if they legalise the recreational form and not just the parts that make them happy. They'd most likely still make the cultivation of cannabis illegal in order to influence the purchase of their 'government approved' products. The sale and distribution of cannabis would still be illegal for those without the correct business license, thus eliminating jobs for drug dealers. Well, that's just what I see happening, so think about it, do we really want to have cannabis legalised?

I always hear people say that if it was legalized everyone would just grow their own pot. I grow my own pot and it is NOT easy to do, especially paying attention to the plants daily to prevent disease, overwatering, underwatering, nutrients ect. These people would instead by from growers who are masters of their craft (like all the people today who grow for profit and actually put the work into ensuring its quality). In other words, the growers in states where its illegal ect will be a leg up on producing quality safe cannabis to stores and to clients if that becomes legal. Sure there will be a hell of a lot of cheap crappy weed out there, but the people who want the quality from experienced growers is a huge market share of the future legal pot smokers industry.

Me personally, I just love growing and my ideal job would be working behind the counter of a dispensary if they ever become legal here, because my passion for strains individuality would allow me to help the customer choose the perfect strain for their needs and wants. I used to do that in highschool when I worked at a video store (remember VHS?) I was always able to refer our clients then to the movies that fit with their favorite movies. I just love helping people and wish with all the knowledge i've gained on marijuana over the past 2 years i'd be able to help people if it were legal. I don't need the money and I really need the marijuana for digestion and calm my anxiety, so I don't deal. I don't even own a scale which is why I never list yields, I don't want a scale because then people would ask me to buy weed and i'd have to be a dick and say "Nope, I don't sell it." and get them all mad. "i don't have a scale" acts as a "I can't give/sell you any weed because I don't have a scale and don't want one." I had one friend bugging me to sell him weed once. So I said "Fine, that will be 3 million dollars for an eigth." He said, "Thats stupid, i can get weed cheap thats quality from my dealer." So I said "then go to your dealer cause this is a bad deal!"

I must be a rare breed because most people I talk to all want to make money on marijuana, but for me that just isn't a good risk/reward type deal. Especially cause when I didn't know how to grow weed I spent a ton amount of money on weed.

My ranting point? Legal Cannabis will mean Good steady jobs for quality growers because it will always be in demand, and people are willing to spend more for quality. Legalization will help almost everyone who works with passion on marijuana in todays environment.

 

[Farfenugen]

All the hydroponics stores would increase their prices, as would light manufacturers, soil companies, fertilizer companies, not to mention cheese nachos at 7/11 going up 400%

 

[Seein stars]

I think they should make it like alcohol. Tax it put a age to buy it. Something like that. Because people get fucked over by the law all the time for only having a couple grams. I mean come on

 

[tardis]

I look at it this way, either the tax dollars go to fund our US Government, or it goes to fund the Mexican Cartels. Although I got nothing but love for Mexican people i've met, but I would rather the profits go to help fund Roads, Schools and Medical Care for Americans. Face it, our country is broke and needs to find away to allow profits of products made in America. This is the ideal cash crop for our country, something that George Washington announced when He was president. The problem I see in treating this harmless medically beneficial plant like a hard drug is as you said Seein Stars there is no age limit for it! And the kids who get ahold of it then also have access to hard dangerous drugs which then ruin their lives. Proof? When was the last time you saw a kid who was able to get ahold of alcohol is able to get hard dangerous drugs from the same source? Marijuana should be legal only because it lacks any of the dangers to health that alcohol brings. We need to give Americans healthy choices in their relaxation and healing, and Alcohol just doesn't work. We need to Legalize, not for the sake of stoners like people think, but for the sake of our country and our economy over the next decade so we don't fall to a third world country. Marijuana, it is Safe and has tons of medicinal value without the negative health effects of pharmaceutical drugs or alcohol.

I can't understand why people are willing to sacrifice the American Economic future just because they don't like other people smoking pot.... If that isn't hate I don't know what is.

 

[Dirty Harry]

I would rather pay extra due to taxes than have to pay with criminal charges and prison time.
Street prices can not stay as high as it is now if legalized and taxed. Being legal removes all the legal risks that are currently factored into the street price.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

I mean, I was thinking about it and even if the government did legalise it, they'd heavily tax the shit, worse than cigarettes and alcohol.

What would be so bad about that? Taxation and regulation are realities we must be prepared to accept if we wish cannabis to be legitimized.

And that's even if they legalise the recreational form and not just the parts that make them happy.

Based on the text of the bill, full re-legalization is the point of the legislation.

They'd most likely still make the cultivation of cannabis illegal in order to influence the purchase of their 'government approved' products.

That's merely speculation. And it's not based on any evidence.

The sale and distribution of cannabis would still be illegal for those without the correct business license, thus eliminating jobs for drug dealers.

Who cares about drug dealers? This will represent an opportunity for the smart ones to go legit.

The scumbags can deal something else on the black market.

Well, that's just what I see happening, so think about it, do we really want to have cannabis legalised?

Speaking for myself; not just yes, but HELL YES!

The status quo is bad policy on so many levels. I honestly can't see why anyone would want to maintain it.

 

[cannabisguru]

its 'legalized'... not legalised..

but yea, we DO want it legalized.

benefits absolutely TRUMP the few negatives of legalizing cannabis... period... end of conversation.

peace.

 

[cannabisguru]

In my opinion I would love it if they would decriminalize cannabis, I've seen too many people get arrested for possession with dumb amounts like a few grams. Its a harmless plant that is looked down upon by ignorant people, but sadly that's what it is. Legal or not people are going to smoke and nothing can be done to stop that.

Amen brotha! Ah-fucking-men! That's the truth too.. I mean, that's the way it is! It's the way the cookie crumbles I'm afraid..

peace.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

In my opinion I would love it if they would decriminalize cannabis,

I do not favor decriminalization. Decriminalization means we agree, intentionally or unintentionally, with the powers that be that there is something inherently wrong with using cannabis.

I am for full re-legalization.

I've seen too many people get arrested for possession with dumb amounts like a few grams.

Agreed. It is a terrible waste of public safety resources to arrest, prosecute, and incarcerate cannabis users. And the human toll is just as great.

Its a harmless plant that is looked down upon by ignorant people, but sadly that's what it is.

Thankfully the public is coming around. More and more, people see the folly of cannabis prohibition.

Legal or not people are going to smoke and nothing can be done to stop that.

And that is a reality which our laws should reflect.

 

[Cali chronic]

Well Beer is easy to make and over taxed, yet it has almost two isles at the shopping center. Believe me there are enough lazy people or people who wont or don't grow for whatever reason.
As far as the Drug dealers go... they are the scourge of society. They skirt their fare share of taxes and community service, they do not adhere to rules and regulations. Like a liquor store tries to only sell to legal age buyers. Dealers don't adhere to basic common sense laws and rules. Those are the guys that notoriously ruin our beaches and camp grounds with the Anarchist ideals and lack of common respect of others and their vacations.
Kill a drug dealer and save America! Legalize MJ and watch them wither and fade into other arenas of tax free anti- american ways of life. The only reason I have ever talked to a worthless drug dealer was to get a bag of weed. Which always turned into an all night bullshit affair with sub par weed and weighed in light with a 5 dollar bump in price.

 

[tip top toker]

I don't think they'd manage to get away with legalizing it but making the growing illegal, not that they wouldn't try, i just don't think they'd manage it wihtout a hell of a lot of angry citizens smokers and non-smokers alike, it would be another example of letting a select few profit, reckon people are getting to the point where they're fed up of that. That's just my opinion on what i hear and read though, could certainly not be quite that black and white

I know shit tons of folk who are just casual smokers who would just love the ability to try growing a cannabis plant or two, let alone the people fed up with their rather large regular payouts for cannabis. Certainly there are folk who's work or lifesty;es might not make it feasible, so would like to be able to buy, enter the taxation area, but damn cannabis is easy as pie to grow and given the right setup can be maintained on a weekly basis, so i reckon a hell of a lot of poeple would start popping seeds

 

[Cali chronic]

I always hear people say that if it was legalized everyone would just grow their own pot. I grow my own pot and it is NOT easy to do, especially paying attention to the plants daily to prevent disease, overwatering, underwatering, nutrients ect. These people would instead by from growers who are masters of their craft (like all the people today who grow for profit and actually put the work into ensuring its quality). In other words, the growers in states where its illegal ect will be a leg up on producing quality safe cannabis to stores and to clients if that becomes legal. Sure there will be a hell of a lot of cheap crappy weed out there, but the people who want the quality from experienced growers is a huge market share of the future legal pot smokers industry.

Me personally, I just love growing and my ideal job would be working behind the counter of a dispensary if they ever become legal here, because my passion for strains individuality would allow me to help the customer choose the perfect strain for their needs and wants. I used to do that in highschool when I worked at a video store (remember VHS?) I was always able to refer our clients then to the movies that fit with their favorite movies. I just love helping people and wish with all the knowledge i've gained on marijuana over the past 2 years i'd be able to help people if it were legal. I don't need the money and I really need the marijuana for digestion and calm my anxiety, so I don't deal. I don't even own a scale which is why I never list yields, I don't want a scale because then people would ask me to buy weed and i'd have to be a dick and say "Nope, I don't sell it." and get them all mad. "i don't have a scale" acts as a "I can't give/sell you any weed because I don't have a scale and don't want one." I had one friend bugging me to sell him weed once. So I said "Fine, that will be 3 million dollars for an eigth." He said, "Thats stupid, i can get weed cheap thats quality from my dealer." So I said "then go to your dealer cause this is a bad deal!"

I must be a rare breed because most people I talk to all want to make money on marijuana, but for me that just isn't a good risk/reward type deal. Especially cause when I didn't know how to grow weed I spent a ton amount of money on weed.

My ranting point? Legal Cannabis will mean Good steady jobs for quality growers because it will always be in demand, and people are willing to spend more for quality. Legalization will help almost everyone who works with passion on marijuana in todays environment.

Kudos to you, but I give mine away. I am older and my friends are older and they are stuck in that phobia of MJ is evil. I assure them that it is not with my Community service videos I make and am making. Along with backed up studies and published information on their ailments. I then give them a bit to try like an eighth and a pipe and tell them if it works I will bring you to DR and we will get you a Vaporizer. I have helped two people thus far that I know of get off Morphine and other opiates the Dr s pass out. I am now studying the Yellow Emporer and the 5000 year study of Ayervedics. I am now creating video on accupressure and opening up blocked areas of the body that cause the need for medicines like Cannabis.

 

[fishwhistle]

+1 for legalization here

 

[eoddom]

The rate at which we could climb out of this gigantic deficit we are in right now if MJ is legalized and taxed would be astonishing. We all know the cost of growing it to the price it goes for on the streets. If the government regulated prices to keep it where its at...make sure the people growing it make money...and the rest was tax dollars...it would be a win win situation for everyone. Millions of people pay street price for weed...they wouldnt stop if it was legal...they would just keep buying it.

 

[forgetfulpenguin]

Posting nightmare scenarios about legislation that might be proposed doesn't change the fact that people are losing their livelihoods and families are being torn apart by needless incarceration. The prohibition of cannabis needs to end.

If I were a betting man I'd bet they regulate the sale and production on cannabis like alcohol because the federal government is more likely to simply step out of the picture and let the states experiment with laws. I'm fairly sure that California will regulate cannabis like alcohol. It will make it easy on legislators if they just basically mirror the regulations for alcohol which are fairly robust and do allow for the personal production of alcohols. If it catches on like medical marijuana has it could be legalized in most sane states before we know it.
Oh dear God I'm being optimistic! MEDIC... I NEED A MEDIC!

The drug dealers will be fine they will either change product or start selling it legally through a store.

 

[GreenthumBum]

If you provide collectives with medical marijuana then you wouldn't want it to be legal. Because then everybody and their sister will be growing pot. It would be like HARVEST SEASON 24/7. TONS of great pot for cheap as shit. this is ALL BAD!!!!

 

[tip top toker]

I think that taxation and government revenue need to be ignored or put aside when talking about legaliazation. We need to remove this concept that it's made of gold dust, regardless of it's benefits, it's a freaking plant, it should cost the same as every other plant and herb on the planet, that is it should cost it's worth, if it's in abundance, then it's cheap, if it grows in a small field in a specific mountain, then it's obviously gonna be expensive. People just cna't get away from the idea of cannabis and big profits and incomes, that is not a good thing.

 

[Dirty Harry]

If you provide collectives with medical marijuana then you wouldn't want it to be legal. Because then everybody and their sister will be growing pot. It would be like HARVEST SEASON 24/7. TONS of great pot for cheap as shit. this is ALL BAD!!!!

That is like saying if your a medical drug company you don't want to see a cure for cancer or aids because the big money is in the management medications a patient has to take for life. If they cure something, they loose out on all the management potential...Wait a minute, I think they already think that way.